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« Reply #90 on: Feb 12th, 2016, 10:47am »

Sadly anymore I simply don't trust any you tube videos. It is ridiculously easy to fake such things by those who know how. Without knowing who took the videos, their background, and where and what equipment it was done with we have no way of verifying the legitimacy of them.
And besides the one video looks like balloons to me and the other where the one 'orb' allegedly shoots something...I can't see any thing being shot at all.
You want to be taken seriously then turn the video into an expert to see what someone can make of it.
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« Reply #91 on: Feb 12th, 2016, 2:57pm »

on Feb 12th, 2016, 10:47am, drwu23 wrote:
You want to be taken seriously then turn the video into an expert to see what someone can make of it.


I did drwu23, right here at the #1 UFO website,
Smersh is more than capable to call it a hoax, or real.

I am sure there are others here who are also, able to do so,
SERIOUSLY.
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« Reply #92 on: Feb 13th, 2016, 08:54am »

on Feb 12th, 2016, 2:57pm, MOKSHA wrote:
I did drwu23, right here at the #1 UFO website,
Smersh is more than capable to call it a hoax, or real.

I am sure there are others here who are also, able to do so,
SERIOUSLY.


And what did our 'expert' Smersh have to say..?
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« Reply #93 on: Feb 19th, 2016, 5:11pm »

on Feb 13th, 2016, 08:54am, drwu23 wrote:
And what did our 'expert' Smersh have to say..?


Who said I was an expert? smiley

I'm certainly no expert on CGI or what would constitute a hoax in a video, only small little bits of info here and there that I've picked up from people who ARE experts. For instance, over in a Facebook group I go on, one of our members is a guy who won an Emmy for animation and special effects in movies, and he sometimes explains why UFO etc videos that get posted are CGI hoaxes - ie certain things that appear such as lines here and colours there etc.

My opinion generally though, is the same as Drwu's ie:

on Feb 12th, 2016, 10:47am, drwu23 wrote:
Sadly anymore I simply don't trust any you tube videos. It is ridiculously easy to fake such things by those who know how. Without knowing who took the videos, their background, and where and what equipment it was done with we have no way of verifying the legitimacy of them.
And besides the one video looks like balloons to me and the other where the one 'orb' allegedly shoots something...I can't see any thing being shot at all.
You want to be taken seriously then turn the video into an expert to see what someone can make of it.
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« Reply #94 on: Feb 19th, 2016, 5:22pm »

Re the first of those videos though:

on Feb 11th, 2016, 6:48pm, MOKSHA wrote:


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The uploader is Crrow777, who is a notorious hoaxer of all sorts of things on Youtube, with quite a long history. Here's what he earns from Youtube advertising:

http://socialblade.com/youtube/user/crrow777

And in any case, that's just an ordinary contrail in that video.

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« Reply #95 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 05:44am »

Smersh, can you link one video from the "notorious hoaxer" known as
crrow777, as a "confirmed" hoax ?

I will agree his has many "out of the box" ideas, but so do I.

It is interesting you brought the monetary sewer into this thread,
we all have to use the "FIAT BANK NOTE" to eat and drink.

I asked you this before about Mick West, you know "some guy"
what is he a expert at ?
You never served up a reply, so I will help with this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neversoft

So where did Mick West get his, "BANK NOTES" from ?

From CGI video games. shocked



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« Reply #97 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 07:31am »

on Feb 20th, 2016, 05:44am, MOKSHA wrote:
I asked you this before about Mick West, you know "some guy"
what is he a expert at ?
You never served up a reply, so I will help with this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neversoft


So being a computer programmer means you have brains of mush?
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« Reply #98 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 08:16am »

on Feb 20th, 2016, 05:44am, MOKSHA wrote:
Smersh, can you link one video from the "notorious hoaxer" known as
crrow777, as a "confirmed" hoax ? ...


My friend Dave Greg, (aka Dazzathecameraman, his Youtube handle) a keen amateur astronomer from New Zealand, has had quite a number of dealings with Crrow777 and has also had discussions with him on Skype. Here's a search of Dazza's channel with all the videos he has made debunking Crrow777's various claims. Also exposed him as a liar. (The links to each relevant Crrow video in question is given in Dazza's uploader's notes on each video.)

https://www.youtube.com/user/dazzathecameraman/search?query=Crrow777

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... It is interesting you brought the monetary sewer into this thread,
we all have to use the "FIAT BANK NOTE" to eat and drink ...


Yes but since Youtube made it easy for people to monetise their videos, thousands of liars have taken advantage and some are making shedloads of money by simply sitting on their backside all day, uploading videos full of pseudoscientific fearmongering tripe that they have made up. Take a look at what BPEarthWatch makes:

http://socialblade.com/youtube/user/bpearthwatch

You might also have seen another thread here somewhere that I started, about Secureteam10.

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I asked you this before about Mick West, you know "some guy"
what is he a expert at ?
You never served up a reply, so I will help with this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neversoft

So where did Mick West get his, "BANK NOTES" from ?

From CGI video games. shocked ...


Mick West is a computer programmer and a founder of Neversoft, who make video games, yes that's true, but so what?

Mick is also the owner of these websites:

http://contrailscience.com

https://www.metabunk.org

As pointed out by Reasoner:

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So being a computer programmer means you have brains of mush?


Exactly. Instead of attacking the person, you need to explain why you think what's said on his websites is wrong (if you think any of it is wrong, that is.)

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« Reply #99 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 08:44am »

Where did I say, anything negative about Mick West ?

crrow777 has been called a "notorious hoaxer" that's
NOT
a attack ?
MMM
embellishment is lying yes, but a hoax, not sure of that.
Not sure how any one could find my post to imply
programmers have a head of
MUSH,
where did that come from?
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« Reply #100 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 09:21am »

on Feb 20th, 2016, 08:44am, MOKSHA wrote:
Where did I say, anything negative about Mick West ? ...


Well, what was

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I asked you this before about Mick West, you know "some guy"
what is he a expert at ?
You never served up a reply, so I will help with this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neversoft

So where did Mick West get his, "BANK NOTES" from ?

From CGI video games. shocked


all about then?

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crrow777 has been called a "notorious hoaxer" that's
NOT
a attack ? ...


Because that's what he has been exposed as and it's been explained exactly why in Dazza's videos, in which Crrow's claims have also been thoroughly debunked. He hasn't been attacked without explaining why or presenting proof (unlike people like Mick West being called "shills" etc by some, but without backing that accusation up with evidence, an accusation that has also been directed at Dazza by several hoax believers, without backing it up.) )
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« Reply #101 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 10:08am »

Asking what Mick West is a expert at, is not negative, from his own
"site"
he calls him self
"some guy"
who is not a climate scientist, but is a pilot, so he has been taught
what is taught in aviation school, about contrail science, I am not
attacking Mick West.

I only watched one of the "hoaxer bunking" videos if I find one there,
that shows proof of a hoax, I will post it here.
Unless you know of "ONE" I should look for.
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« Reply #102 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 12:29pm »

on Feb 20th, 2016, 10:08am, MOKSHA wrote:
Asking what Mick West is a expert at, is not negative, from his own
"site"
he calls him self
"some guy"
who is not a climate scientist, but is a pilot, so he has been taught
what is taught in aviation school, about contrail science, I am not
attacking Mick West ...


The fact that he isn't a climate scientist is neither here nor there. I'm not a climate scientist either and neither are quite a few others who have debunked the chemtrail hoax. To only go by what peoples' qualifications are is the same as some saying that "so and so has a PhD, therefore what he's saying carries great weight and must therefore be correct. (Such as J. Marvin Herndon, who has a PhD in nuclear chemistry, but for some strange reason has fallen down the chemtrail rabbit hole and has a website in which he makes all kinds of wild, but many times debunked claims about chemtrails.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Marvin_Herndon )

It's the logical fallacy known as "argument from authority."

In all cases, it is what a person is saying that is important and that is what should be addressed, not what a person does for a living or what his/her qualifications are.

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I only watched one of the "hoaxer bunking" videos if I find one there,
that shows proof of a hoax, I will post it here.
Unless you know of "ONE" I should look for.
MW


As far as Dazzathecameraman is concerned, he has made quite a few videos debunking Crrow777 and exposing him as a charlatan, going back quite some while now. In particular Crrow's "lunar wave" claims.

For example:



Dazza's notes under that video: "A look at how Crrow777 practices censorship and suppression of truth by deleting comments and blocking people, thereby preventing open and balanced discussion."

Here's that link again to all of Dazza's videos exposing Crrow777:

https://www.youtube.com/user/dazzathecameraman/search?query=Crrow777

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« Reply #103 on: Mar 1st, 2016, 10:25pm »

If,There is no evidence as to this happening,Why is there so much evidence shown and admission by the US and many governments all over the world?
Addendum:Why ,now is this suddenly ceasing?
Evidence is much too overwhelming..
Follow the MONEY.............
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« Reply #104 on: Mar 2nd, 2016, 10:12am »

What specific evidence and govt admissions are you referring to...? I have never seen any good evidence that any toxic chemicals are being sprayed anywhere based on science nor read that the govt has admitted to this.
We have had cloud seeding experiments etc for a long time that are known but regarding the chemtrail conspiracy stuff what is there that has been verified?
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