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« Reply #15 on: Jan 26th, 2012, 10:34pm »

on Jan 25th, 2012, 3:23pm, FlatEarth wrote:
I haven't run across an argument against it being a Soviet or U.S. spy satellite, so if you have a link I'd like to read it.

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UFO Files history channel the Kecksburg incident. There is a nasa expert who went over the theory.
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« Reply #16 on: Jan 27th, 2012, 1:14pm »

Hi Leon,

I believe the NASA expert was referring to a failed Soviet Venus probe that crashed to earth around the same time, within a day or so. It was proven that it could not have been that probe.

I speculate that it could have been a Soviet or U.S. spy satellite which were designed to survive reentry so that the exposed film could be recovered. As I recall, witnesses said the object fell from the sky in a fireball, but seemed to slow down before impact. This is what would be expect of a reconnaissance package returning to earth.

Spy satellites are top secret, and their recovery would be treated accordingly, especially if we recovered a Soviet package. There also wouldn't be much information available about their trajectories. Witnesses reported seeing an acorn shaped object that was consistent with Soviet satellites of the time, so it seems the most probable answer to this event.

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« Reply #17 on: Jan 27th, 2012, 3:53pm »

on Jan 27th, 2012, 1:14pm, FlatEarth wrote:
Hi Leon,

I believe the NASA expert was referring to a failed Soviet Venus probe that crashed to earth around the same time, within a day or so. It was proven that it could not have been that probe.

I speculate that it could have been a Soviet or U.S. spy satellite which were designed to survive reentry so that the exposed film could be recovered. As I recall, witnesses said the object fell from the sky in a fireball, but seemed to slow down before impact. This is what would be expect of a reconnaissance package returning to earth.

Spy satellites are top secret, and their recovery would be treated accordingly, especially if we recovered a Soviet package. There also wouldn't be much information available about their trajectories. Witnesses reported seeing an acorn shaped object that was consistent with Soviet satellites of the time, so it seems the most probable answer to this event.

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Interesting, that's a valid theory. Not all roads lead to ET with these crashes.
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« Reply #18 on: Jan 27th, 2012, 3:57pm »

on Jan 26th, 2012, 12:08pm, HAL9000 wrote:
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...I suggest you ready the book "The hunt for Zero Point"..

Someone aught to write a book called 'The Search for Nick Cooke'. He is a very elusive author for someone purporting to work in the defence industry.

He has a question or two to answer about his tv program.

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Aint that the Truth. Since he wrote that book he has gone completely off the grid. His work was for "Janes Defense Weekly" which was an indepent magazine who wrote about the latest Aviation technology. I imagine that must have ruined him writing that book.
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« Reply #19 on: Jan 27th, 2012, 7:27pm »

on Apr 24th, 2011, 12:19pm, bonehead wrote:
Hhhhmmm, refuting semi-informed speculation with alternative semi-informed speculation.

Yep, that smells like UFOlogy alright! wink

If the "Nazi Bell" theorists want to convince me of the existence of the bell and its relationship to the Kecksberg incident, then show me an authentic photo of the bell with its supposed runic inscriptions.

By the way, having just recently read an article on the the bell, the description of the "hieroglyphics" from Kecksberg, DOES NOT match with nordic runes (which I am familiar with). There are no "circles and squares" in runes. Just sayin'......

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No, from known descriptions, they do not. But they do sound suspiciously like an alternative occult version.

But what's the problem here? All we have are descriptions, correct? Even the best of memories burp from time to time.

Those marking may have been just that. Mold markings to be exact. Just a thought.
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« Reply #20 on: Jan 27th, 2012, 7:31pm »

on Jan 27th, 2012, 1:14pm, FlatEarth wrote:
Hi Leon,

I believe the NASA expert was referring to a failed Soviet Venus probe that crashed to earth around the same time, within a day or so. It was proven that it could not have been that probe.

I speculate that it could have been a Soviet or U.S. spy satellite which were designed to survive reentry so that the exposed film could be recovered. As I recall, witnesses said the object fell from the sky in a fireball, but seemed to slow down before impact. This is what would be expect of a reconnaissance package returning to earth.

Spy satellites are top secret, and their recovery would be treated accordingly, especially if we recovered a Soviet package. There also wouldn't be much information available about their trajectories. Witnesses reported seeing an acorn shaped object that was consistent with Soviet satellites of the time, so it seems the most probable answer to this event.

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There is a huge argument against it having been a downed satellite. The flight path. It altered course considerably several times.

Beyond that? I haven't squat. Only the US Government knows what this object was. It is a genuine mystery.
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« Reply #21 on: Jan 28th, 2012, 9:11pm »

I wonder if those spy satellites had the ability to change course during or after reentry? If not, it could have been a test of something experimental, like a nuclear powered rocket. In any case, this didn't seem otherworldly to me.
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« Reply #22 on: Jan 29th, 2012, 01:31am »

That I agree with. This was very much a man made craft in my opinion. What type is the only question.
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« Reply #23 on: Feb 2nd, 2012, 3:21pm »

Leon,

Worth a look at his wiki entry.

Here is a excerpt from a link.

...Founded in 2008 by Nick Cook, a long-time senior editor for Jane’s Defence Weekly, Dynamixx was responsible for the 2008 ‘EnviroSec’08’ workshop, which posed the question of ADS involvement in energy and environmental markets for the first time, and the E2DS’09 and E2DS’11 international conferences, which examined practical ways for the ADS industry to provide technology solutions to these markets.

A use for that good old alien technology ?

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« Reply #24 on: Feb 2nd, 2012, 3:42pm »

on Feb 2nd, 2012, 3:21pm, HAL9000 wrote:
Leon,

Worth a look at his wiki entry.

Here is a excerpt from a link.

...Founded in 2008 by Nick Cook, a long-time senior editor for Jane’s Defence Weekly, Dynamixx was responsible for the 2008 ‘EnviroSec’08’ workshop, which posed the question of ADS involvement in energy and environmental markets for the first time, and the E2DS’09 and E2DS’11 international conferences, which examined practical ways for the ADS industry to provide technology solutions to these markets.

A use for that good old alien technology ?

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Very useful indeed. Thanks for the info HAL. Cook left a paper trail for the lazy researcher such as myself. I've grabbed a few of the documents he mentioned. Most notably a document he from 1956 entitled "electrogravitic Sytems, an examination of electrostatic motion, dynamic counterbary and barycentric control" .
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« Reply #25 on: Feb 2nd, 2012, 3:53pm »

Leon,

I'm just about to order his book on zero point energy.
Got to be worth a read.

Maybe he'll explain how to get two plates closer together than the wavelength of light without them touching.

Doubt it.

Was it Cook that interviewed the guy who had an electro-static levitation device in his garage ?

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« Reply #26 on: Feb 2nd, 2012, 4:27pm »

on Feb 2nd, 2012, 3:53pm, HAL9000 wrote:
Leon,

I'm just about to order his book on zero point energy.
Got to be worth a read.

Maybe he'll explain how to get two plates closer together than the wavelength of light without them touching.

Doubt it.

Was it Cook that interviewed the guy who had an electro-static levitation device in his garage ?

HAL


The guy your referring to is Boyd Bushman. Its interesting Cook did talk to him and its mentioned in the book, but the interviews you see online with Bushman are a not with Cook and have a much different experience from what Cook mentions in the books. I'll let you read it to find out what I mean but the contrast is kind of interesting.
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« Reply #27 on: Feb 3rd, 2012, 2:05pm »

Leon,

Thanks for the heads up.

I'll let you know what conclusions I come to when I get the book.

HAL
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« Reply #28 on: Feb 3rd, 2012, 2:15pm »

Leon,

Just done a quick check on Boyd Bushman.

I don't think this is the same guy.

He seems to be expounding some kind of electromagnetic repulsion scheme.

The thing I'm on about is electrostatic and utilises very high voltages.

I'll take another look at the recording I have and try to get a name. If I can find the dvd.

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« Reply #29 on: Feb 3rd, 2012, 4:20pm »

on Feb 3rd, 2012, 2:15pm, HAL9000 wrote:
Leon,

Just done a quick check on Boyd Bushman.

I don't think this is the same guy.

He seems to be expounding some kind of electromagnetic repulsion scheme.

The thing I'm on about is electrostatic and utilises very high voltages.

I'll take another look at the recording I have and try to get a name. If I can find the dvd.

HAL


hmm I'm not sure HAL. Could have been John Hutchinson with his Hutchinson effect. If you find out let me know.
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