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« Reply #15 on: May 9th, 2015, 8:17pm »

Stick a fork in it.

The skeptically minded group has now posted demonstrations of how they clarified the writing on the placard, indicating the body was a mummy:

http://www.roswellslides.com/how-the-placard-was-deciphered/

Others are independently verifying the work, which is how professional research is conducted. The team presented its findings and posted its methodology, allowing others to duplicate the process and offer rebuttals. Well done.

Meanwhile, Frank Warren at 'The UFO Chronicles' is reporting that Carey and Dew obstructed his attempts to further clarify the situation:

http://www.theufochronicles.com/2015/05/the-roswell-slides-analysis-of-placard.html

Like Warren, I also found Carey to be uncooperative, as posted earlier in this thread. It would appear at this point a primary issue is why researchers were able to accomplish since Tuesday what the Roswell Slides investigators were unable to reveal in years: what the placard said. I'd say the mystery of the slides is now a matter of where the responsibilities lie for a hoax.
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« Reply #16 on: May 9th, 2015, 8:37pm »

on May 9th, 2015, 12:47am, jjflash wrote:
You're welcome. Thought we might discuss UFO-related stuff on this UFO forum every once in a while.

Might be the most relevant post yet on the Roswell Slides at Curt Collins' Blue Blurry Lines:

http://www.blueblurrylines.com/2015/05/the-placard-of-roswell-slides-final.html

A group of skeptically minded individuals have been studying the saga, and they think they were able to get a reading of the previously undecipherable placard. Says it's a mummified two-year old boy.

If they're right, there are serious implications of an intentional hoax.


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I always knew aliens, especially the elder ones.. wore long cotton robes..and that of course applies on death. Note the remarkable resemblance! This is gentleman..a Godsend!!
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. and of course also had their insides removed and placed in a hellmans hermetically sealed mayonnaise jar.

These people made a historic find, and we should all be humbled the cleaning girl for the estate or rental agent just found the pictures in a hidden compartment. A one in a billion find!
Looking down, The Rays would be happy to know, bless their precious hearts, that their keepsake and hidden mementos have seen the light of day and are about to transform not only ufology..But the way we clean estates in the future. No small feat I might add! shocked

I'm excited..The RR group did not disappoint me..
Rojas will go the way of Carrion.Carrion will go the way of Valle..Valle will die rich of course..unlike us wondering if the Alien innards can be reversed engineered..Maybe thats what the KurseWiel guy is working on..secretly for google. laugh
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« Reply #17 on: May 9th, 2015, 8:49pm »

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WELCOME BACK grin ~ MOST REGRETABLE THE PACES YOU'VE BEEN TASKED WITH ~ CHARACTER BUILDING ~ MAYBE TOUCH UP ON YO ESPNANOL grin ~ MANNISSIMO!

HMMMM ~ WITH REFERENCE TO SUCH POTENTIAL COASTERS WITH THE HOAXERS ~ THAT LINGERING FEELING OF JUZZZZ BEING GRUBERED...

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« Reply #18 on: May 9th, 2015, 9:07pm »

Its hard to look up at the sky now Zetar with so many strange things crawling around my phoneline and PC. My mailbox is acting odd..with bills appearing and piling up daily as if out of nowhere.. Somebody throw me a bone here! Who are they, where do they come from, what are they doing here, and what do they want? I just wanna know! shocked

the sign says 52 more like 62...but but that means the alien child, must have been born in 1960. rolleyes
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« Reply #19 on: May 9th, 2015, 9:41pm »

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« Reply #20 on: May 10th, 2015, 06:46am »

on May 9th, 2015, 8:17pm, jjflash wrote:
Stick a fork in it.

The skeptically minded group has now posted demonstrations of how they clarified the writing on the placard, indicating the body was a mummy:

http://www.roswellslides.com/how-the-placard-was-deciphered/

Others are independently verifying the work, which is how professional research is conducted. The team presented its findings and posted its methodology, allowing others to duplicate the process and offer rebuttals. Well done.

Meanwhile, Frank Warren at 'The UFO Chronicles' is reporting that Carey and Dew obstructed his attempts to further clarify the situation:

http://www.theufochronicles.com/2015/05/the-roswell-slides-analysis-of-placard.html

Like Warren, I also found Carey to be uncooperative, as posted earlier in this thread. It would appear at this point a primary issue is why researchers were able to accomplish since Tuesday what the Roswell Slides investigators were unable to reveal in years: what the placard said. I'd say the mystery of the slides is now a matter of where the responsibilities lie for a hoax.


I had a feeling it might be something like a child's mummy at a museum after reading what Redfern wrote and the fact that there were what looked like a woman's legs in the lower right corner of the pic.
It's simply amazing that intelligent people actually thought this might be a real alien pic....sounds like it could very well be a hoax from the start.
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« Reply #21 on: May 10th, 2015, 10:17am »

Bragalia's now jumping ship and throwing Dew under the bus:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2015/05/tony-bragalia-and-end-of-roswell-slides.html

They found the mummy, apparently, and AJB issues an apology for several things. He acknowledges the deblurring process executed by the skeptics was accurate, not photoshopped as Dew asserted. AJB continues to fail to demonstrate an understanding of the difference, however, between what he knows to be true and what he's been told.

Perhaps most importantly is what this saga tells us about UFO Land. It took the public at large less than a week to completely solve a supposed mystery sensationally promoted as having been under years of careful scrutiny.

Mystery mongering, anyone?
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« Reply #22 on: May 10th, 2015, 4:33pm »

I can only surmise that Mr. Adam Dew did not provide to these experts the highest-resolution images of the slides. Why he did not, I cannot be certain. But Adam Dew has to this very day not yet publicly provided the crystal-clear slide images that I know exist.

And Adam Dew in an email to a German researcher just two days ago, accused the skeptics who applied the SmartDeBlur program to the placard of using Photo Shop to fake their interpretation of the text. Given the discovery of the Mesa Verde Notes which clearly corroborate this interpretation, it is not the skeptics who faked anything. Mr. Dew has some explaining to do.

He has provided at various times to researchers different segments of the slides, partial images of the slides, and images of the slides of varying resolution. We can ask why, but I think we know without asking. Dewís motivations were from the very beginning very different that those of mine, of Tomís and of Donís. He is new to the UFO field and has no stake in it as those who have spent years in such study. Unlike the placard images that he provided, it is not hard to read between these lines.



Come on..Adam Dew was Just another player like Adam Jiminez in the great lakes hoax..

I'm glad this was deep sixed even before the unblurring prg was applied..simply because the behaviour was one of exploitation from the gitgo.

The pickins so scarce that even skeptics will bend just to keep the mystery going. as long as the data points can be made to fit the belief...whatever buzz and profit was to be made..was made..Thanx for the contribution to the Indian childrens mummy fund...Will Jaime be making any?

Makes it all better..
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« Reply #23 on: May 10th, 2015, 5:28pm »

Many people share your lack of enthusiasm for Mr. Bragalia's offering, Sys, including Frank Warren at 'The UFO Chronicles'. He closely covered the story for a couple years now and provided a summary of events taking place within the past several hours, of which I'm of the opinion his perspectives are reasonable and accurate:

http://www.theufochronicles.com/2015/05/roswell-slides-update-mummy-is.html
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« Reply #24 on: May 12th, 2015, 9:46pm »

Tom Carey doubles down and accuses researchers who deblurred the placard of fraud in a statement posted at Curt Collins' Blue Blurry Lines:

http://www.blueblurrylines.com/2015/05/roswell-slides-tom-careys-statement-on.html

That's in spite of multiple researchers now independently confirming the results on images released by Adam Dew, details of the methodology and results posted on websites and the fact one can look at the image and have every reason to believe it's a museum or sideshow-type setting. Off the chain.

Here's a toned down version of the same statements (reflecting the stance of Carey and Schmitt), but nonetheless questionable, at Randle's blog:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2015/05/roswell-slides-statement-by-tom-carey.html
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« Reply #25 on: May 13th, 2015, 12:14am »

on May 12th, 2015, 9:46pm, jjflash wrote:
Tom Carey doubles down and accuses researchers who deblurred the placard of fraud in a statement posted at Curt Collins' Blue Blurry Lines

http://www.blueblurrylines.com/2015/05/roswell-slides-tom-careys-statement-on.html

That's in spite of multiple researchers now independently confirming the results on images released by Adam Dew, details of the methodology and results posted on websites and the fact one can look at the image and have every reason to believe it's a museum or sideshow-type setting. Off the chain.

Here's a toned down version of the same statements (reflecting the stance of Carey and Schmitt), but nonetheless questionable, at Randle's blog:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2015/05/roswell-slides-statement-by-tom-carey.html


They found their slides on Blue Blurry Hill
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« Reply #26 on: May 13th, 2015, 12:25pm »

Blueblurry Hill... that's some solid Casebook gold.

Maybe this slides saga needs a theme song... like - hey!

How bout 'Big Me' recorded by the Foo Fighters on Roswell Records?!

Some fancy footwork accompanied by, "Big me to talk about it, I could stand to prove, if we can get around it, I know that it's true..."

The art and ascetics of les hoax.

Go on, enjoy, enjoy!

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« Reply #27 on: May 14th, 2015, 4:17pm »

Don Schmitt now conceding the slides depicted a mummy and issuing an apology:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2015/05/a-final-fatal-statement-about-roswell.html

He's pleading a nasty case of researcher bias while denying he was blatantly deceptive. That currently leaves Tom Carey and Jaime Maussan sticking to their mind numbingly unsupported story of aliens, the Rays and the intel community hierarchy.

Meanwhile, we might ask if there is a point in which failing to vet a story, while reporting it as true, constitutes fraud. Even if we were to accept the claims of innocent idiocy being put forth by Schmitt, Dolan and Bragalia, is there a line one crosses in which they should be held just as liable?

We might also consider that even if we believe them, it has nonetheless been conclusively established that events such as the Roswell Slides and the Citizens Hearing on Disclosure show us that some leading UFO investigators are absolutely horrible researchers. Like, below high school level skills. At best.
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« Reply #28 on: May 14th, 2015, 4:27pm »

This whole scam makes me quite irritated. Instead of trying to hoax some photo that relates to Roswell, why not investigate some current reports. They just might find some real evidence.
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« Reply #29 on: May 14th, 2015, 6:37pm »

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"This whole scam makes me quite irritated. Instead of trying to hoax some photo that relates to Roswell, why not investigate some current reports. They just might find some real evidence."

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HAVING SAID THE ABOVE ~ I HAVE MUCH RESPECT FOR THOSE WHOM TAKE TIME AND APOLOGIZE ~ IT TAKES A BIGGER MAN/WOMAN TO DO SUCH ~ AND ~ UNQUESTIONABLY THE OUTCOME FROM SUCH ~ A RENEWED INTEREST IN VETTING ANY/ALL CLAIMS ALONG WITH AN ACCUTE SENSITIVITY TO PROFIT DRIVEN UFOLOGISTS...

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