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« Reply #30 on: Jun 20th, 2012, 01:17am »

on Jun 19th, 2012, 6:01pm, skizicks wrote:
Layla,
To which Sai Baba do you refer, the original or the self proclaimed re-boot?
The first was a simple Muslim/ Hindu holy man who had no use for posessions or wealth. The second was the Jim Jones of his times and lived to create a very well run and wealthy empire of religious followers.


Hello skizicks

Yes, I was speaking of the controversial Sai Baba who is now deceased. I want to say though that I was merely relaying a story told to me by a friend. I was not a follower of Sai Baba but at one time I knew some that were. I would not like to see this thread degenerate into a debate on the validity of Sai Baba as there are many who have been able to produce apports, even of living animals that were not cult leaders. Of course just like Ufology there are those that seem to get a kick out of producing hoaxes.

Years ago I received a phone call from someone to say during the night they dreamt they were talking to two people and one handed him a black feather.... when he woke in the morning there was a black feather in his bed.

I knew a very nice clairvoyant at one time, that use to levitate while she slept. It was a concern for her husband who would bring her down gently and tuck her in case she woke and was harmed by falling.....

These are some of the things that interest me.... the realness of dreams where a person can get material objects out of dreams or people who do superhuman feats. And there have been many down through the ages, even flying.

I found some on this website:
http://extraordinaryhumans.com/Superhuman/superhuman.html
http://extraordinaryhumans.com/Human_Flight/human_flight.html

It appears to me that we have been socially engineered through the ages into believing that we cannot do these things.... so we believe we can’t. There have been many though that show we can.

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« Reply #31 on: Jun 20th, 2012, 02:37am »

You are spot on Layla we do have suppressed abilities, some we use without even knowing we are doing it. Simple example of this is your pet. I have seen me in room thinking about taking the dogs out for a walk and when going to get their leads they are already waiting at the door. Unlike us animals still have this ability so the suppression has to be a deliberate act by whom or for what and I haven’t a clue why. It would be interesting to find what our real capabilities are.
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« Reply #32 on: Jun 20th, 2012, 10:27pm »

We may find a lot more about this very soon Hyundisonata. Now that science has detected some of these capabilities with recently developed technologies, scientists are bound to be tripping all over each other trying to be the first to release a properly researched paper on the subject.

Their leading hypothesis at the moment is that these powers are a major step in the evolution of the human brain in progress. But I would like to point out that individuals who possessed the knowledge and skills necessary have been known to pull off unbelievable feats as far back as we have written history. And probably further.

Once science steps forward to confirm that these powers do exist in humans, how many more people might start developing the ability to perform these feats. The primary requirement is simply to have no doubts in any way that you can pull these things off. Have you ever wondered what humanity might be like in another thousand years?

Our only step forward in the last three thousand years has been to develop the compassion necessary to cease activities like human sacrifice and similar. But how much different might we behave if we suddenly discover how to read minds for example?

Too bad these things progress so slowly. Even so, my wife and I have always had a knack for being able to look at each other and know what we are both going to say about something. It has a tendency to drive other people nuts trying to figure out what is going on. But when we try to explain, many people seem to think we're nuts, despite what just happened at the time.

I think it may very well be an extremely turbulent time when we first begin to hone these skills as an entire species. People will be forced to adjust to having very little or no privacy, as well as develop an ability to take more in what is now a major emotional offense and let it slide right off so to speak.

Humans are a funny species. No doubt about it.

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« Reply #33 on: Jun 21st, 2012, 01:26am »

You must have a really strong relationship fully committed with your wife ICE, a bonding of souls. Now the depressing part lol. I had two aunts die because of such bonding; both did the exact same thing. After about a year of their partner passing on they lay down on the sofa in their living room and just died. No suicide no hanging or drugs just plain stopped living. Their bond was just that strong it carried on past the grave. Met one of them on one of my many NDEs (really bad habit I have developed lol) she was with my old maw and was extremely happy. I see it like this, the real you is the soul and the body is nothing more than a space suit, only problem is that somewhere along the line of evolution the wires from the soul to the body got crossed or deliberately damaged. If the connection could be reinstated then such feats would be available to us again. Maybe in the past we abused such a gift and going by today’s standards that’s highly possible so it was removed as some form of punishment or learning.
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« Reply #34 on: Jun 21st, 2012, 4:04pm »

33 years and counting Hyundisonata. Strange you should say this. Not one of our friends believe that either of us will outlive the other for long, and I tend to agree with them. I believe the reason is the strength of the relationship though. If somebody represents your primary purpose in life, what are the chances that your will to live would survive losing them? I can only barely remember the time before we were together in a manner of speaking. What I mean is that I transform every girl I was with before I met my wife into my wife. My brain insists on telling me that she was always there. And before I met her, I always had the feeling that there was somebody out there I was looking for. My wife had the same feeling.

Yes, a pretty unique relationship. Astrology claims our union will not work. She's water, I'm fire. I don't see a problem there. All it means is that together we make steam. Right? cool

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« Reply #35 on: Jun 29th, 2012, 02:14am »

When I was younger I noticed something when I was searching for meaning of the experiences I was having..... when I talked about spiritual things the top of my head seemed to be open and it felt like my thoughts and words were rising up and heard in other realms..... but when I spoke of things of this earth none of that happened. Years later I read a quote that said...”the things of heaven are heard in heaven, but the things of the earth stay here....”

Has anyone noticed that the people who are able to fly or bi-locate or bring material objects out of the ethers are into the spiritual?

One day when I was at work, I walked out into the long corridor and saw at a distance other staff.... but the staff were all in spirit form, not in physical form.... I thought omg what am I seeing? How did I see them in their spirit form and not their physical form? Is it because we believe so strongly that we are physical that we appear physical?

When I was climbing up Glastonbury Tor in England I found that one moment I was absolutely weightless, and next my feet were like lead. I have thought long about that since and realised that when I feared I would get blown off the Tor I became heavy again..... Now I am wondering if at that time I could have flown if I had tried.

I have never tried to fly, bi-locate, or bring things out of the ethers... but I have completely disappeared from this reality, brought a piece of paper out of dream, and experienced many times objects disappearing and reappearing weeks later and I know I am not the only one who has experienced these things.

So, good question...."What is the difference between reality and dream?"

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« Reply #36 on: Jun 30th, 2012, 3:29pm »

Sometimes I think that question should be worded, is there any difference between reality and a dream?

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« Reply #37 on: Jun 30th, 2012, 10:19pm »

on Jun 30th, 2012, 3:29pm, icepick wrote:
Sometimes I think that question should be worded, is there any difference between reality and a dream?

Tim


Actually Tim, it would be better with that heading.... smiley Especially considering when reading the news daily that gets nuttier and nuttier, that life doesn't seem much different than a nightmare ... wink Eg. Face eating zombies etc....

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« Reply #38 on: Jun 30th, 2012, 10:58pm »

I'm just happy that somebody other than myself realizes there are truths out there we are missing Pen. With phenomena ramping up like it is once again, it's no longer so simple to dismiss the folks from around 760 AD as a superstitious lot. Weird things be happening which are only getting stranger. Makes one wonder what's going on, does it not?

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« Reply #39 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 10:43pm »

Hi Tim

Apart from monks being able to fly, or bi-locate there is also the ability to become invisible.

Spontaneous Human Involuntary Invisibility

One of these yogic siddhas was human invisibility.

Patanjali, author of the Yoga-sutra, which is one of the earliest treatises among the early Indian writings, attempts to describe the process whereby human invisibility occurred. He says that concentration and meditation can make the body imperceptible to other men, and a direct contact with the light of the eyes no longer existing, the body disappears.

The light engendered in the eye of the observer no longer comes into contact with the body that has become invisible, and the observer sees nothing at all. There is not a lot written about how this occurs; the explanation of the process whereby invisibility was brought into being was most likely left up to the teacher to impart to the student directly.

From the thirteenth century on, numerous texts in Europe refer to similar abilities, performed by sorcerers and magicians who had the power to make themselves invisible, like the shamans (both ancient and modern), and the yoga masters in India.

Other cultures in which shamanism (and the ability to vanish) has played a major role are the Aborigines of Australia, the archaic peoples of North and South America, and the peoples in the polar regions.

Source http://www.crystalinks.com/hsii.html

When people think that aliens are superior to humans, I do not think that is the case at all.... they merely know what they are capable of, and we humans have forgotten.

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I'm just happy that somebody other than myself realizes there are truths out there we are missing Pen. With phenomena ramping up like it is once again, it's no longer so simple to dismiss the folks from around 760 AD as a superstitious lot. Weird things be happening which are only getting stranger. Makes one wonder what's going on, does it not?

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« Reply #40 on: Jul 5th, 2012, 09:07am »

Don't forget suspended animation Pen. British Scientists discovered monks in Tibet who could nearly bring their bodily functions to a complete stop around the turn of the 20th Century.

I don't know whether we forgot our abilities or just haven't mastered a very special gift yet. How long ago were we endowed with our semi Divine gene pool? We don't really know that, do we? The most straightforward references to these powers comes from none other than the Bible. But when Jesus demonstrated this ability to the Apostles, he didn't give them any training, did he? All he did was tell them that they could do the same thing. Does this not make you want to go ............. WHY?

I have read stories about certain writings that the Hebrews had long before the time of Solomon. Indeed, many suspect they carried them from Sumer to Egypt with them. If these writings do exist, and the legends about them are even partially true, then if you could lay your hands on a copy of those manuscripts, I'm willing to bet you could learn to do anything.

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« Reply #41 on: Jul 19th, 2012, 05:24am »

Hi Tim

Yes, I have read about the Yogi's that were buried alive for up to a month and dug up again and were alive.

After reading about Kahuna's walking on red hot lava flows... we are all capable of doing all these things... not that I would try fire walking, but I have seen it done while on holiday in Bali years ago.

I was reading about levitation last night and today I came across this while searching for news... Although I have read it before long ago... it was the synchronicity of finding it just after I was reading about it elsewhere that struck me... smiley I just love synchronicity....

Flying In and Out of Windows

http://www.strangehistory.net/2012/07/17/flying-in-and-out-of-windows/



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Don't forget suspended animation Pen. British Scientists discovered monks in Tibet who could nearly bring their bodily functions to a complete stop around the turn of the 20th Century.

I don't know whether we forgot our abilities or just haven't mastered a very special gift yet. How long ago were we endowed with our semi Divine gene pool? We don't really know that, do we? The most straightforward references to these powers comes from none other than the Bible. But when Jesus demonstrated this ability to the Apostles, he didn't give them any training, did he? All he did was tell them that they could do the same thing. Does this not make you want to go ............. WHY?

I have read stories about certain writings that the Hebrews had long before the time of Solomon. Indeed, many suspect they carried them from Sumer to Egypt with them. If these writings do exist, and the legends about them are even partially true, then if you could lay your hands on a copy of those manuscripts, I'm willing to bet you could learn to do anything.

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« Reply #42 on: Jul 19th, 2012, 5:00pm »

Such things had the more remote regions of Tibet on my must visit spots when we still had money Pen. Right at the very top. The Chinese never made it to all of those monasteries. Another place would be Israel. The Hebrews were advanced long before the Egyptians, way back when they still lived in Sumer. I'm sure that more traditional Rabbis still have record of some of their ancient knowledge. Unlike these other groups, the Hebrews seem to have had a handle on the more advanced concepts of this. Do you know much about the Book of Solomon?

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I awoke from a dream that seemed real,

Into a reality that was a nightmare...
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Quantum Dream Portals and Extraterrestrial Realities

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the Dream Reality seems to end when we wake up, but then the Day Reality ends when we go to sleep.


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