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« Reply #45 on: Jan 20th, 2015, 4:52pm »

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WHEN IN ROME...AND SUCH WAS APPLIED WHEN I WAS IN ENGLAND...AND YES I DEVELOPED THAT TASTE FOR CREAM AND SUGAR IN MY AFTERNOON TEA...

LEMON ~ CERTAINLY ON THE FISH ~ HOLD IT ON THE CHIPS...
GROWING UP IN THE DEEP SOUTH ~ FLUSH WITH SOUTHERN TRADITIONS ~ YES INDEED LEMON ON OUR FARM RAISED CATFISH...FRIED OR BLACKENED...MIGHT I ADD ~ WE CHERISH OUR GRAIN FED/AQUA CULTURE PRODUCE ~ THE TASTE YA LOVE TO REMEMBER!

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NONETHELESS...MIGHT I SUGGEST IF YOU'RE IN JEFFERSON PARISH ~ LOUISIANA ~ ANOTHER CITY WHICH IS PLEASING TO THE PALATE ~ A VISIT TO K-PAUL'S LOUISIANA KITCHEN...
416 CHARTES STREET ~ NEW ORLEANS ~ LOUISIANA...MIGHT I SUGGEST THE BLACKENED SNAPPER OR INDEED THE BLACKENED CATFISH ~ MAGNIFIQUE grin
CHEF PAUL PRUDHOMME IS THE TASTE OF NEW ORLEANS...

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BLACKENED RED SNAPPER...

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IF YOU ARE EVER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ~ IT WOULD BE A TREAT TO EXTEND THAT SOUTHERN HOSPITALITY TO YOU AS YOUR COUNTRY WAS MOST GRACIOUS TO ME AND MY FAMILTY WHEN THERE...

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NOTICE THOSE LEMONS SUBLIMINALLY (SUBLEMONALLY) PLACED THROUGHOUT...grin
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« Reply #46 on: Jan 20th, 2015, 5:13pm »

My My,
All this conversation and confabulation is making my head spin,Well,not really,But,Brings up some experiences,
One time in the early 1970s ,after using the forbidden weed,I and a few others went to get some "munchies" on a late saturday night @ our local 7-Eleven,
Upon our return 'trip' home(it was a very snowy and cold night,mind you) we ended spinning out on the road,as the spin seemed to be our demise,we ended at our destination without a tow or a memory of what had just transpired,except for the spin-out.
Never figured that on out,EVER.
Another time ,when I use to be a billboard worker,A very strong thunderstorm was approaching,as we proceeded to complete our task of completion,a strong gust of wind blew me off,at that moment,My thoughts were,'how will I land on the building top below?'.

I didn't,A very strong gust(?) of wind pusded me back onto the catwalks,That incident was witnessed by 7 others there due to the probabititiy of the difficulty.
To this day,I feel there was an intervention from outside our realm of vision.
We talked about it after we arrived at the garage.

Don't WHY this happened to me,BUT,I do KNOW all,that were there,just simply said,"you were saved for a reason".
Perhaps ,there are some things we don't need to know.

From that day forward,as before,I have lived my life by the Golden Rule.
Seems it paid off these 2 times....
Rant,DONE.....

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« Reply #47 on: Jan 20th, 2015, 5:25pm »

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THANKS FOR SHARING ~ AND UNQUESTIONABLY ~ SAVED FOR A REASON ~ OFTEN MANY THINGS ~ ARE ABOVE OUR COSMIC PAYGRADE...

IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS...IMHO

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« Reply #48 on: Jan 20th, 2015, 6:03pm »

Apparently,I had much to do back then before NOW.

Maybe,that's the reason I've just surpassed my 63rd birthday.
Now,I sit in front of my lappy,chatting with someone I've never met in person but know them to an extent.

The beauty of life goes beyond what we perceive,then ,as we relish the knowledge,the true meaning begins to show itself.
That,in itself ,Is The Beauty Of What and Why We Are All Alive!!!!
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« Reply #49 on: Jan 21st, 2015, 04:29am »

on Jan 20th, 2015, 1:12pm, INT21 wrote:
Apologies to Purr, who's thread seems to have wandered of the straight and narrow.

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Thanks HAL, but no worries: some wild zigzagging may be required to catch up with UFOlogy anyhow!

And we imo are still tracking true here, because Moon Dreams poses the question whether some dreams are caused by an EXTERNAL reality (outside our own?), or simply (as mainstream neurology would have it) brain based.

So figuring out if such alternate realities exist, looking for signs they have a discernible/measurable effect in our world is relevant.


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« Reply #50 on: Jan 21st, 2015, 04:33am »

on Jan 20th, 2015, 6:03pm, jm57 wrote:
Apparently,I had much to do back then before NOW.

Maybe,that's the reason I've just surpassed my 63rd birthday.
Now,I sit in front of my lappy,chatting with someone I've never met in person but know them to an extent.

The beauty of life goes beyond what we perceive,then ,as we relish the knowledge,the true meaning begins to show itself.
That,in itself ,Is The Beauty Of What and Why We Are All Alive!!!!


Would you agree that great 'outside' forces lead us through our lives, Jm?


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« Reply #51 on: Jan 21st, 2015, 05:36am »

on Jan 18th, 2015, 4:41pm, INT21 wrote:
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...Seconds after you throw it all out, thousands of years of superstition, shamanism, spirituality and religion come flowing back in because these are the ways man has dealt with this weird and scary phenomenon, to wit, endless 'things that go bump in the night'!


This is the problem. Non of these allow a way to explore what really is happening. No experiments can be set up to replicate the experience.
There are experiments that show that powerful magnetic field scan make you feel 'strange'. but these fields are not normally linked to the common reports.

We have to be able to say 'if we do this and this, and maybe this, such and such a thing will happen'. And we need to be able to do it on demand.

..And when we scare, it's so comforting to pray, to Ancestors, to the Gods, to Jesus, Buddha or Allah....

However, an cold analysis shows that these prayers are never answered. How could they be ?

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Well, when one model (like replicating observations, measurements, experiments) of a phenomenon fails, then fiddle with, kinda finetune your model until it does yield useful information, HAL/INT21! As long as we think we are investigating SUMTIN, something 'real', imo such modelling our problem outside of the box is warranted.

At that point we are no longer practicing pure science. We are sinning against accepted scientific dogma. Oh the shame.. the shame... uh... actually I don't give a hoot grin.

To my mind, acquiring knowledge fits the motto of those special boys of your country, the SAS: Who Dares Wins. When fighting our own lack of knowledge, it makes sense to go all the way to win.

To get real. Like yourself, I have observed strange things myself, surprised the hell out of me really. I now believe the limits of our universe, be it time, space, physics laws or light speed are not absolute. Some stuff, the paranormal, faith in God, UFOs and even commonplace experiences like dreaming and feeling love, even having a conscious mind, defies the accepted model (=Cartesian-Newtonian paradigm). So we need to formulate, imagine a new model to solve the genuinely weird.

My own model for "exploration:": contemplate, interact, negotiate. Opening my mind to the possible presence of aliens. Allowing awareness of many powerful spiritworlds. Praying to God. Then run it all like an experiment the size of my entire life.

(Preliminary results: it's all real and then some laugh.)


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« Reply #52 on: Jan 21st, 2015, 09:10am »

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...So we need to formulate, imagine a new model to solve the genuinely weird...

Quite so. And then you will have a new procedure. If it produces no results, no worries, go over what you did and tweak it a bit. Re try.

First you have to have that flash of insight. 'what if ?'

When it comes, what ever else you do; write it down before it gets away.

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« Reply #53 on: Jan 21st, 2015, 09:21am »

ZETAR,

HIGHLY UNLIKELY I WILL EVER BE IN THE AREA, BUT IF I AM BE ASSURED THAT I WILL TRY THE SNAPPER. LOOKS DELICIOUS.
AND I WILL LET PAUL PRUDHOMME KNOW THAT HIS FAME REACHES FAR BEYOND HIS LOCAL TOWN.

AS FOR THE LEMON.

FINE WITH FISH EATEN OFF A PLATE, BUT FOR FISH AND CHIPS IN NEWSPAPER, THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE WAY, IT HAS TO BE NON-BREWED CONDIMENT (NOT VINEGAR) AND SALT.

BY THE WAY, FISH AND CHIPS IS THE ONLY MEAL I EVER ADD SALT TO. OF COURSE, ONE NEVER, EVER, ADDS SALT TO A MEAL WITH OUT TASTING IT. THE CHEF WOULD BE MORTIFIED. EXTREMELY BAD FORM.

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« Reply #54 on: Jan 21st, 2015, 11:53am »

PURR,

TO WIT:

"At that point we are no longer practicing pure science. We are sinning against accepted scientific dogma. Oh the shame.. the shame... uh... actually I don't give a hoot"

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"To get real. Like yourself, I have observed strange things myself, surprised the hell out of me really. I now believe the limits of our universe, be it time, space, physics laws or light speed are not absolute. Some stuff, the paranormal, faith in God, UFOs and even commonplace experiences like dreaming and feeling love, even having a conscious mind, defies the accepted model"

RIDE THAT WAVE GIRL ~ UR ON THE HORIZON OF COSMIC AWARENESS!!!

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ALAS ~ PURSUANT TO THIS STATEMENT >>> "the accepted model" <<< COULD YOU EXPOUND UPON THIS... cool
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« Reply #55 on: Jan 21st, 2015, 1:05pm »

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MIGHT I SUGGEST ~ HOLD THE SALT AND ADD THE TONY!

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« Reply #56 on: Jan 22nd, 2015, 08:27am »

on Jan 21st, 2015, 1:05pm, ZETAR wrote:
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MIGHT I SUGGEST ~ HOLD THE SALT AND ADD THE TONY!

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Hey guys, not for me to but in off topic or anything, but my younger years in the UK have led me to consider fish and chips, with PLENTY of malt vinegar and salt sprinkled, to be food to die for. (Got to be cod in traditional recipe batter, the lot, with chips cut by hand, fried in bovine frying fat. Heaven. Potentially literally so if eaten to excess... cry.)


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« Reply #57 on: Jan 22nd, 2015, 09:44am »

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..fried in bovine frying fat. Heaven.,,

Right on.

It has to be beef dripping. Cooked in oil it tastes awful.

Malt vinegar is acceptable.

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« Reply #58 on: Jan 22nd, 2015, 12:29pm »

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CERTAINLY LOOKS ~ SCANDALOUSLY DELICIOUS!

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« Reply #59 on: Jan 22nd, 2015, 12:35pm »

on Jan 21st, 2015, 11:53am, ZETAR wrote:
>>> "the accepted model" <<< COULD YOU EXPOUND UPON THIS... cool


Happy to do so, ZETAR smiley. For ease and accuracy I will use two short excerpts from my earlier linked article.


"Mechanism stresses isolated, separate and interchangeable parts. Everything in Newton’s universe is ultimately reducible to so many individual atoms and the forces acting between them. Atomism encourages a model of relationship based on conflict and confrontation, on part against part. In our times Hobbes’s mechanistic ‘war of each man against each man’ takes the form of the ultimate conflict." "..the central contradiction in the Cartesian-Newtonian worldview is that it cannot account for the origin and characteristics of human consciousness. Both founders of this paradigm would have appealed to the metaphysical notion of a ‘God’ who was responsible for human feelings and consciousness, which would be seen as part of God’s creation of the individual ‘soul’. Even today, when the concept of the soul has long since been discarded as scientifically useless, the material basis of consciousness is still a matter of keen debate."


ZETAR, above a basic summary of the Cartesian-Newtonian worldview or 'model' of reality. The named founders it traces back to are of course Newton and Rene Descartes (the "I think, therefore I am"-guy). I call it the "accepted" view, because the majority of modern thinkers will adhere to some version of it.

As a Christian Mystic, I suspect it need be updated with new understanding from Evolution, Quantum Physics as well as a wholly fresh look at the Bible and other sacred and spiritual texts. Beyond that, it may be that our observations of UFOs indicate there's an even higher/more advanced perspective than our own state of the art sciences, that of the Others we have seen mesmerizing glimpses of.


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