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« Reply #60 on: Jan 22nd, 2015, 6:09pm »

PURR,

TO WIT:

"As a Christian Mystic, I suspect it need be updated with new understanding from Evolution, Quantum Physics as well as a wholly fresh look at the Bible and other sacred and spiritual texts. Beyond that, it may be that our observations of UFOs indicate there's an even higher/more advanced perspective than our own state of the art sciences, that of the Others we have seen mesmerizing glimpses of."

IT'S THOSE COSMIC GLIMPSES THAT SHOULD INDEED NUDGE ONE TO THAT QUANTUM-ENTANGLEMENT ENLIGHTENMENT...

NEWTON ~ ESPOUSING THE PRIMAL WAVE...IN THAT EVERYTHING IN OUR REALITY IS PROTONS/NEUTRONS/ELECTRONS/POSI-NEGITRONS/NEGI-POSITRONS/QUARKS...ALL VIBRATING...IN ITS' OWN SPECIFIC CONTAINER...BE IT WHAT HAVE YOU...MY QUESTION IS...WHAT CAME BEFORE THE PRIMAL WAVE...WHO/WHAT/WHOM...THUMPED THAT INITIAL WAVE IN MOTION...YOUR THOUGHTS AS A CHRISTIAN MYSTIC...

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I'M GUESSING YOU GET WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS AND THE POTENTIAL FRINGE BENEFITS MIGHT BE RATHER INTERESTING WITH THAT 9000 MODEL...rolleyes
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« Reply #61 on: Jan 22nd, 2015, 9:22pm »

The dreams between my daughters and wife can be strangely the same.

My daughters have found their names for their children in their dreams.

It seems females in a family have a dream connection.

Is this a hormone thing?

This situation does not include me.
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« Reply #62 on: Jan 24th, 2015, 11:38am »

on Jan 22nd, 2015, 6:09pm, ZETAR wrote:
PURR,

TO WIT:

"As a Christian Mystic, I suspect it need be updated with new understanding from Evolution, Quantum Physics as well as a wholly fresh look at the Bible and other sacred and spiritual texts. Beyond that, it may be that our observations of UFOs indicate there's an even higher/more advanced perspective than our own state of the art sciences, that of the Others we have seen mesmerizing glimpses of."

IT'S THOSE COSMIC GLIMPSES THAT SHOULD INDEED NUDGE ONE TO THAT QUANTUM-ENTANGLEMENT ENLIGHTENMENT...

NEWTON ~ ESPOUSING THE PRIMAL WAVE...IN THAT EVERYTHING IN OUR REALITY IS PROTONS/NEUTRONS/ELECTRONS/POSI-NEGITRONS/NEGI-POSITRONS/QUARKS...ALL VIBRATING...IN ITS' OWN SPECIFIC CONTAINER...BE IT WHAT HAVE YOU...MY QUESTION IS...WHAT CAME BEFORE THE PRIMAL WAVE...WHO/WHAT/WHOM...THUMPED THAT INITIAL WAVE IN MOTION...YOUR THOUGHTS AS A CHRISTIAN MYSTIC...

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I'M GUESSING YOU GET WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS AND THE POTENTIAL FRINGE BENEFITS MIGHT BE RATHER INTERESTING WITH THAT 9000 MODEL...rolleyes





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Hi ZETAR, before confusing anybody, when I call myself a Mystic, I'm laying claim only to being of that School of Thought, not to the (historical, extraordinary) status of Christian Mystics. The latter claim equivocal with callling myself a poached egg. wink

So I have no knowledge. Just SPECULATING, where I'm heading with such "upgrading" of the Cartesian-Newtonian Model is (uh.. I wonder, wise friend if you foresaw this....?) moving God out of natural processes as far as possible. I strongly question Creation(ism). I believe evolutionary processes (esp. Natural Selection) reasonably account for our living world, for all species, for the emergence of Modern Man, for the evolution of our minds and societies. I suck at Math undecided so by way of quantum 'detergent' I use Stephen Hawking to similarly move God out of the evolution of the Universe, holding that God's involvement is possible, but not necessary. Now let's arrive at smallest beginnings: the Big Bang. I model the (timeless?) moment just before the BB as without an active Creator. Instead I imagine an alternate reality/universe poised to explosively transition to ours.

If I were an Atheist, I'd happily continue removing God as a cause of reality until our Universe was empty, perhaps leaving member HAL/INT21 in utter contentment. But for me (like Descartes thinking therefore being laugh) I sense God (who or whatever He/She/It truly is) to be active, creative and present in human (and even animals') consciousness. ETs imagine him too, and wonder. Thus, according to my speculative model, the sum of reality and life is caused and evolved, not created. Yet Consciousness does create and inspire (=cause new/original information), is in part the unending expression of an alternate reality, somewhere out of time, God's Home.

Where do we find God's tag in our minds? Imo in the emergence of Altruism, of Civilization, and in awesome brainpower, including human languages rivalling the entire universe in complexity, and our memory demonstrating faster than light speeds.


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« Reply #63 on: Jan 24th, 2015, 4:10pm »

PURR,

TO WIT:

"Where do we find God's tag in our minds? Imo in the emergence of Altruism, of Civilization, and in awesome brainpower, including human languages rivalling the entire universe in complexity, and our memory demonstrating faster than light speeds."

TO ENDEAVOR IN SUCH A PHILOSOPHICAL TOPIC ~ OF WHETHER GOD TAGS ONES MIND REMINDS ME OF THOSE CHILDHOOD GAMES OF>>>TAG...UR IT<<< AND TO EMPERICALLY REDUCE SUCH TO SAID FORM ~ LIMITS ONE CONCEPT...IMHO...ALL DUE RESPECT MY ESTEEMED AND ENLIGHTENED FRIEND...

I THINK MORE ALONG THE LINES OF COSMIC SIGNS ~ cool...SUCH EMANATES FROM BEING A ROSICRICIAN AND MY PERPETUAL ATTEMPT(S) AT UNDERSTANDING AND PERFECTING SAME!

HAVING SAID THE ABOVE ~ ONE CAN ONLY SPEAK FROM THEIR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WHETHER SUCH EXISTS AND IS REINFORCED BY EVENTS IN THEIR LIFE TO EITHER AFFIRM, ADHERE OR IN FACT DENY SUCH MYSTICISM ~ COSMIC INTERVENTION.

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YOUR MARTIAL ARTS TAUGHT YOU MORE THAN SELF DEFENSE...SUCH INGRAINED IN YOUR MIND AN ABILITY TO REACT AND IN SUCH A WAY REACTIONS BECOME INSTINCTIVE ~ TO WHAT EVER...THUS PROMPTING A PHYSICAL/MENTAL AGILTY...FOR ME...AND ONE/THOSE WHOM MENTORED MY QUESTIONS...I FOUND OUT IT WAS MUCH MORE THAN AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION OF THE PHYSICAL...AS YOU I'M SURE RECALL...AND SAME BEING PART OF THE STEPPING STONES TO SUCH COSMIC AWARENESS...FOR THOSE WHOM ARE/WERE COMPELLED TO ENDEAVOR SAID JOURNEY...

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TO FURTHER ONES JOURNEY FROM THE PHYSICAL TO THE ETHERIAL...TIS A CHOICE AND ONCE SAID DOOR(S) OPEN TO SUCH A REALITY...AN INTELLECTUAL/SPIRITUAL/COSMIC ABOUT FACE IS DISINGINUOUS AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ~ INGNORANCE (KNOWING BUT REFUSING TO ACCEPT) BUT EACH TO HIS OR HER OWN ~ AS WHAT WORKED/WORKS FOR ME UNQUESTIONABLY MAY NOT WORK FOR ANOTHER AS ANY HOUSE OF SUBSTANCE MUST HAVE A FOUNDATION TO SUPPORT SUCH AN UNDERSTANDING AND TRAVEL ON THAT EINSTEIN ROSEN BRIDGE/HIGHWAY...AS I HAVE BEEN TAUGHT ~ QUESTIONED AND CONCLUDED...SUCH IS THE FABRIC OF THE COSMOS...

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NOW COULD ~ SHOULD WE ALLOW SUCH...WITHOUT THE OLE ACADEMIC EFFORT...rolleyes...I THINK NOT!

TO WIT:

"If I were an Atheist, I'd happily continue removing God as a cause of reality until our Universe was empty, perhaps leaving member HAL/INT21 in utter contentment"

IT SEEMS AS IF HAL REMAINS DISCONTENT ~ IN LIEU OF HIS COINCIDENCES AND ZEAL FOR CATEGORIZING/LABELING/PACKAGING/TESTING COSMIC EVENTS (COINCIDENCE IS THE COMFORT ZONE FOR THOSE TO LAZY TO QUESTION WHY ~ EASY HAL ~ NOT REFERING TO YOU AS YOU INDEED QUESTION) ~ BUT EVIDENT IN HIS QUEST ~ AND INDEED MY ADMIRATION ~ HIS MIND REMAINS OPEN...AND INDEED A SCHMART AND WRYLY WITTED BRITON smiley

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SO HOW DOES ONE REDUCE A LIFETIME OF EXPERIENCES INTO SEVERAL PARAGRAPHS ~ IMPOSSIBLE!
THOSE WHOM DESIRE SUCH TEMPLETS STUMBLE UPON THE CRITICAL ASPECTS OF PERSONAL/PSYCHIC/COSMIC/INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENT ~ AS MANY HAVE LOST ABILITY TO CRITICALLY ASSESS/PONDER BEYOND THEIR COMFORT ZONE...AND THAT IS WHERE EVERY JOURNEY ESPOUSED IN THE ABOVE MENTIONED BEGINS ~ REACHING BEYOND ONES PERPROGRAMMED COMFORT ZONE...

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ENLIGHTENMENT IS OFTEN ~ JUST A NUDGE AWAY...

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AND I'M QUITE CAREFUL AS TO THE EXTENT OF MY >>>NUDGES<<< grin

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PURSUANT TO THIS OBSERVATION ~ " and in awesome brainpower, including human languages rivalling the entire universe in complexity, and our memory demonstrating faster than light speeds." ~ I'M NOT QUITE SURE NOR COMFORTABLE WITH SUCH CONCLUSIONS (KINDA EARTH CENTRIC IMHO IN LIEU OF THE BRILLIANT MINDS WHOM HAVE COME ~ GONE ~ AND EXIST TODAY) ~ NEVERTHELESS, A SPECIES SOME 1,OOO,OOO YEARS DEVELOPED BEYOND THAT APEX OF WHAT WE HAVE TODAY ~ MAY HAVE/LOGICALLY WOULD HAVE DEVELOPED COMPLEXITIES BEYOND WHAT WE COULD EVEN ATTEMPT TO FATHOM ~ THEREFORE, AS A NEOPHYTE IN THAT RODEO ~ I SHALL SADDLE UP WITH HERR DRWU AND RIDE THAT GNOSTIC HORSE (BUT I'M WORKING ON IT) ~ BUT ~ TO PUT WIND BACK IN YOUR SAILS ~ YOUR STATEMENT REFERENCED ABOVE ~ IS PROBABLY WHY INTEREST ( WHETHER E.T, DIMENSIONALS, TIME SURFERS) IN THIS PLANET ~ REMAINS ON A CONTINUUM...
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« Reply #64 on: Jan 25th, 2015, 06:05am »

The cobra is probably thinking ' I wish you'd hurry up and finish then we could get back down to a warmer level. And do we have to sit so close to that lightening rod ?'

..IT SEEMS AS IF HAL REMAINS DISCONTENT..

Does contentment equal to nirvana ?

Does the world look at the meditating figure and say 'ah yes, he has reached 'the place'. Or does it say 'ok, you just sit there and we will do all the work'.

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« Reply #65 on: Jan 25th, 2015, 09:41am »

HAL,

THERE IS A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY ~ BUT A BRIEF CONNOTATION/DENOTATION OF YOUR INTERPRETATION OF NIRVANA MIGHT AID ME/OTHERS IN ANSWERING YOUR LAST QUESTION...CHEERS MATE!

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THERE YA GO...THINKING LIKE A REPTILE...ALL COBRA N STUFF...
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« Reply #66 on: Jan 26th, 2015, 1:27pm »

on Jan 24th, 2015, 4:10pm, ZETAR wrote:
PURR,

TO WIT:

"Where do we find God's tag in our minds? Imo in the emergence of Altruism, of Civilization, and in awesome brainpower, including human languages rivalling the entire universe in complexity, and our memory demonstrating faster than light speeds."

TO ENDEAVOR IN SUCH A PHILOSOPHICAL TOPIC ~ OF WHETHER GOD TAGS ONES MIND REMINDS ME OF THOSE CHILDHOOD GAMES OF>>>TAG...UR IT<<< AND TO EMPERICALLY REDUCE SUCH TO SAID FORM ~ LIMITS ONE CONCEPT...IMHO...ALL DUE RESPECT MY ESTEEMED AND ENLIGHTENED FRIEND...

I THINK MORE ALONG THE LINES OF COSMIC SIGNS ~ cool...SUCH EMANATES FROM BEING A ROSICRICIAN AND MY PERPETUAL ATTEMPT(S) AT UNDERSTANDING AND PERFECTING SAME!

HAVING SAID THE ABOVE ~ ONE CAN ONLY SPEAK FROM THEIR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WHETHER SUCH EXISTS AND IS REINFORCED BY EVENTS IN THEIR LIFE TO EITHER AFFIRM, ADHERE OR IN FACT DENY SUCH MYSTICISM ~ COSMIC INTERVENTION.

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YOUR MARTIAL ARTS TAUGHT YOU MORE THAN SELF DEFENSE...SUCH INGRAINED IN YOUR MIND AN ABILITY TO REACT AND IN SUCH A WAY REACTIONS BECOME INSTINCTIVE ~ TO WHAT EVER...THUS PROMPTING A PHYSICAL/MENTAL AGILTY...FOR ME...AND ONE/THOSE WHOM MENTORED MY QUESTIONS...I FOUND OUT IT WAS MUCH MORE THAN AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION OF THE PHYSICAL...AS YOU I'M SURE RECALL...AND SAME BEING PART OF THE STEPPING STONES TO SUCH COSMIC AWARENESS...FOR THOSE WHOM ARE/WERE COMPELLED TO ENDEAVOR SAID JOURNEY...

User Image

TO FURTHER ONES JOURNEY FROM THE PHYSICAL TO THE ETHERIAL...TIS A CHOICE AND ONCE SAID DOOR(S) OPEN TO SUCH A REALITY...AN INTELLECTUAL/SPIRITUAL/COSMIC ABOUT FACE IS DISINGINUOUS AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ~ INGNORANCE (KNOWING BUT REFUSING TO ACCEPT) BUT EACH TO HIS OR HER OWN ~ AS WHAT WORKED/WORKS FOR ME UNQUESTIONABLY MAY NOT WORK FOR ANOTHER AS ANY HOUSE OF SUBSTANCE MUST HAVE A FOUNDATION TO SUPPORT SUCH AN UNDERSTANDING AND TRAVEL ON THAT EINSTEIN ROSEN BRIDGE/HIGHWAY...AS I HAVE BEEN TAUGHT ~ QUESTIONED AND CONCLUDED...SUCH IS THE FABRIC OF THE COSMOS...

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NOW COULD ~ SHOULD WE ALLOW SUCH...WITHOUT THE OLE ACADEMIC EFFORT...rolleyes...I THINK NOT!

TO WIT:

"If I were an Atheist, I'd happily continue removing God as a cause of reality until our Universe was empty, perhaps leaving member HAL/INT21 in utter contentment"

IT SEEMS AS IF HAL REMAINS DISCONTENT ~ IN LIEU OF HIS COINCIDENCES AND ZEAL FOR CATEGORIZING/LABELING/PACKAGING/TESTING COSMIC EVENTS (COINCIDENCE IS THE COMFORT ZONE FOR THOSE TO LAZY TO QUESTION WHY ~ EASY HAL ~ NOT REFERING TO YOU AS YOU INDEED QUESTION) ~ BUT EVIDENT IN HIS QUEST ~ AND INDEED MY ADMIRATION ~ HIS MIND REMAINS OPEN...AND INDEED A SCHMART AND WRYLY WITTED BRITON smiley

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SO HOW DOES ONE REDUCE A LIFETIME OF EXPERIENCES INTO SEVERAL PARAGRAPHS ~ IMPOSSIBLE!
THOSE WHOM DESIRE SUCH TEMPLETS STUMBLE UPON THE CRITICAL ASPECTS OF PERSONAL/PSYCHIC/COSMIC/INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENT ~ AS MANY HAVE LOST ABILITY TO CRITICALLY ASSESS/PONDER BEYOND THEIR COMFORT ZONE...AND THAT IS WHERE EVERY JOURNEY ESPOUSED IN THE ABOVE MENTIONED BEGINS ~ REACHING BEYOND ONES PERPROGRAMMED COMFORT ZONE...

User Image

ENLIGHTENMENT IS OFTEN ~ JUST A NUDGE AWAY...

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AND I'M QUITE CAREFUL AS TO THE EXTENT OF MY >>>NUDGES<<< grin

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SHALOM...Z

EDIT TO ADD:

PURSUANT TO THIS OBSERVATION ~ " and in awesome brainpower, including human languages rivalling the entire universe in complexity, and our memory demonstrating faster than light speeds." ~ I'M NOT QUITE SURE NOR COMFORTABLE WITH SUCH CONCLUSIONS (KINDA EARTH CENTRIC IMHO IN LIEU OF THE BRILLIANT MINDS WHOM HAVE COME ~ GONE ~ AND EXIST TODAY) ~ NEVERTHELESS, A SPECIES SOME 1,OOO,OOO YEARS DEVELOPED BEYOND THAT APEX OF WHAT WE HAVE TODAY ~ MAY HAVE/LOGICALLY WOULD HAVE DEVELOPED COMPLEXITIES BEYOND WHAT WE COULD EVEN ATTEMPT TO FATHOM ~ THEREFORE, AS A NEOPHYTE IN THAT RODEO ~ I SHALL SADDLE UP WITH HERR DRWU AND RIDE THAT GNOSTIC HORSE (BUT I'M WORKING ON IT) ~ BUT ~ TO PUT WIND BACK IN YOUR SAILS ~ YOUR STATEMENT REFERENCED ABOVE ~ IS PROBABLY WHY INTEREST ( WHETHER E.T, DIMENSIONALS, TIME SURFERS) IN THIS PLANET ~ REMAINS ON A CONTINUUM...





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My list of possible 'God-tags' includes the emergence of Altruism, Civilization, amazing human brain performance, Near Death Experiences, Fish'n Chips with salt&vinegar, remembering past lives, Polar Bears frolicking gently with sled dogs, as well as observing Alien Visitors in our skies.




Hey ZETAR, I keep meeting that horse named Nudge, nothing better to stay on the straight and narrow cheesy.

I hope we did not mix up metaphors. (There's always such risk.) When referring to God's tag showing up in Nature, in human minds, human consciousnesss, I was thinking of the (mysterious, annoying, ominous?) graffiti art appearing on walls in big cities. Not radio tags or the touch of a hand in child play. My earlier post showed graffiti art. Here's its DARK SIDE counterpart (the type city residents may experience as more 'ominous'):




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Gangsta taggers go beyond artistic expression, to represent their gang, their personal monikers, often including 'disses' (disrespect, threats) aimed at rival gangs. Tags do not bode well if you're an ordinary citizen living in the (neighbor)hood.




Tags tell us SUMBODY (good or bad) was here. I use the tag metaphor to denote phenomena observable in nature, specifically in minds like ours. My references to greater than light speeds in human memory performance, as well as Universe level complexity in earth languages came from measurements in experimental psychology, a vital part of evolution research. Has little or nothing to do with Sigmund Freud.

Apologies for doing this off the top of my head (if you request, I will do my homework and dig up pubilcations/links tongue) but I remember a set of memory experiments where subjects' response times were measured to questions directed at their memory. The progress of the test allowed for testsubjects to achieve ever shorter, even less than one second, lapses before providing correct answers from memory. The weird, unexpected results included answers which must have been selected from memory before the questions were posed. Like a quantum effect where results/effects emanate prior to the cause (hence my light speed remark). The other "awesome", godlike feat performed by human brains/minds is by our language faculty, which uses a combinatory system to create syntax/grammar supposedly infinite/universe complexity exceeding, merely for normal conversation. Just crazy machinery built into our brains! To me the above amounts to a Tag, written in minds, from the Gangsta in the Sky. cool




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But you are right in saying your/my models of reality, whether in accordance with Rosicrucianism, Evolutionary Psychology or Mysticism are no purely intellectual exercise: they are the outcome of living our individual lives. Of Experience. Of this endless path where we continually, painfully run across a horse called Nudge.

And my path nudges me to imagine we have Somebody Amazing on our mind. Which is an unexpected outcome of Evolution. And which may disappoint our Atheist friends.

Far be it from me to tell you what to conclude, ZETAR! Instead I will respect your insights whenever you share them. But the moral from my tag story is (in my very subjective opinion) that the universe and life have been 'informed' by the godless mechanisms of Physics/Evolution, AS WELL AS (judging by tags like mind-speed/complexity, reincarnation, Near Death Experiences, UFOs etc.) somethung other I call for convenience: God.

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« Reply #67 on: Jan 26th, 2015, 3:24pm »

PURR,

FAR BE IT ~ FROM ME ~ EVEN NUDGING >>>YOU<<< AND IN SO DOING...CONSIDER THE NUMBER OF THOSE SEARCHING ~ REACHING FOR SUCH INSIGHTS YOU'VE INTIMATED...AS YOU SEEM TO EXPECT...ANTICIPATE...FROM ME...THE CONVERSE IS UNQUESTIONABLY TRUE AND A PARADIGM ~ FROM YOU TO MANY!

AND INDEED...KINDA PARTIAL TO THAT >>>O.G.<<< UPSTAIRS AS IF SUCH WERE NOT IN FACT A COSMIC REALITY...I WOULD NOT BE HERE cool

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on Jan 26th, 2015, 1:27pm, purr wrote:
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My list of possible 'God-tags' includes the emergence of Altruism, Civilization, amazing human brain performance, Near Death Experiences, Fish'n Chips with salt&vinegar, remembering past lives, Polar Bears frolicking gently with sled dogs, as well as observing Alien Visitors in our skies.




Hey ZETAR, I keep meeting that horse named Nudge, nothing better to stay on the straight and narrow cheesy.

I hope we did not mix up metaphors. (There's always such risk.) When referring to God's tag showing up in Nature, in human minds, human consciousnesss, I was thinking of the (mysterious, annoying, ominous?) graffiti art appearing on walls in big cities. Not radio tags or the touch of a hand in child play. My earlier post showed graffiti art. Here's its DARK SIDE counterpart (the type city residents may experience as more 'ominous'):




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Gangsta taggers go beyond artistic expression, to represent their gang, their personal monikers, often including 'disses' (disrespect, threats) aimed at rival gangs. Tags do not bode well if you're an ordinary citizen living in the (neighbor)hood.




Tags tell us SUMBODY (good or bad) was here. I use the tag metaphor to denote phenomena observable in nature, specifically in minds like ours. My references to greater than light speeds in human memory performance, as well as Universe level complexity in earth languages came from measurements in experimental psychology, a vital part of evolution research. Has little or nothing to do with Sigmund Freud.

Apologies for doing this off the top of my head (if you request, I will do my homework and dig up pubilcations/links tongue) but I remember a set of memory experiments where subjects' response times were measured to questions directed at their memory. The progress of the test allowed for testsubjects to achieve ever shorter, even less than one second, lapses before providing correct answers from memory. The weird, unexpected results included answers which must have been selected from memory before the questions were posed. Like a quantum effect where results/effects emanate prior to the cause (hence my light speed remark). The other "awesome", godlike feat performed by human brains/minds is by our language faculty, which uses a combinatory system to create syntax/grammar supposedly infinite/universe complexity exceeding, merely for normal conversation. Just crazy machinery built into our brains! To me the above amounts to a Tag, written in minds, from the Gangsta in the Sky. cool




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But you are right in saying your/my models of reality, whether in accordance with Rosicrucianism, Evolutionary Psychology or Mysticism are no purely intellectual exercise: they are the outcome of living our individual lives. Of Experience. Of this endless path where we continually, painfully run across a horse called Nudge.

And my path nudges me to imagine we have Somebody Amazing on our mind. Which is an unexpected outcome of Evolution. And which may disappoint our Atheist friends.

Far be it from me to tell you what to conclude, ZETAR! Instead I will respect your insights whenever you share them. But the moral from my tag story is (in my very subjective opinion) that the universe and life have been 'informed' by the godless mechanisms of Physics/Evolution, AS WELL AS (judging by tags like mind-speed/complexity, reincarnation, Near Death Experiences, UFOs etc.) somethung other I call for convenience: God.

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The paradigm of devotion and love of one to the rest of those ,which in times of need,cling to survival,L O V E!!!!!!!
Preservasion of LIFE.

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« Reply #69 on: Jan 27th, 2015, 06:19am »

on Jan 26th, 2015, 9:46pm, jm57 wrote:
The paradigm of devotion and love of one to the rest of those ,which in times of need,cling to survival,L O V E!!!!!!!
Preservasion of LIFE.



I fully agree Jm. (I already listed it in an earlier post smiley.)


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« Reply #70 on: Feb 3rd, 2015, 8:48pm »

Tonight February 3rd, the full moon, called the Snow Moon, is joined by Jupiter in conjunction.

Magic is spreading on the world from Leo energy.

Jupiter is a king among the gods, and you feel good inside yourself.

You will feel that you have to be creative and positive.

You will have peaceful dreams.

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