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« Reply #7 on: Jun 17th, 2009, 4:40pm »

on Jun 17th, 2009, 3:53pm, Gojira wrote:
Seems to me the Alabama Drone should be included in the history of the Drones regardless of any individual beliefs


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I suppose it was posted on May 23, 2007 right in the middle of the Drone reports but without wanting to offend if I only have LMH’s word for that then it’s not enough to warrant inclusion, mainly as it wasn’t pursued or promoted and was remarkably different to the others, sort of prototype looking…..

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BUT if you adhere to my earlier theory of all of the Drones being designed prior to release and if this Drone was related to the earlier Drones then it makes sense that the hoaxers would backdate the alleged sighting otherwise it would conflict with establishing their own timeline, perhaps if it is related then it’s for as simple a reason as the hoaxers didn’t want to waste a render? Also, the back-story was very poor what with the “Utility vans” stalking/staking him out, but if related and if there is more than one hoaxer involved then I would hazard a guess that Mr. Smith is a.k.a. Chad.

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So I guess that makes Raj and the others the alter-egos of the other person/s involved, according to your ‘opinion’ would that be the father or the son?

In fact why not embrace them all? You may as well add the following to your timeline as well:

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« Reply #8 on: Jun 17th, 2009, 5:31pm »

Exactly my point. IMO BB Drone & LAP start of any Hollywood involvement.
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« Reply #9 on: Jun 17th, 2009, 5:50pm »

As an extensiof that what you say is that Hollywood created the BB,( Steph and TY) and LAP or merely borrowed after that point.?, and that the prior ones Chad and Raj, was a different independent group like that , for example only , the consortium of visual and audio experimental artists led by Virgil Rred Crow, and or your father and son team.


@Dr.Dil Thank you for that Alabama drone analysis..I had missed that one totally..
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 17th, 2009, 6:15pm »

on Jun 17th, 2009, 4:24pm, SiddReader wrote:
Hehe, Tomi! You know that I did not label you, neither as a microwave nor as a toaster.



Well .. since I'm obviously not a microwave or a toaster... I think you are missing the joint .. wink
tongue You didn't mean to say something but I thought maybe we should nip it right @ the bud ...
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 17th, 2009, 6:23pm »

I recognized that font on the Internal Astronaut site right away, but it wasn't from the Isaac LAP documents. It's the font that DRT member Cage posted last year on OMF and Ovnis-USA.

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As far as I know there are only 2 re-creations of the Caret font floating around on the interwebs, one named isaac.ttf made by Cage, and caret.ttf made by yodir. yodir's font is much closer to the original font in the LAP documents, while Cage's is much more stylized, thinner, and uses ovals for the dashes.

I don't see how this is the mother load at all. tomi do you have any idea how many artists and websites have used the isaac/drone art? Heck, even I used some of it last year for a background image on a temporary portfolio site I was working on. I'm sure if you stumbled across that page it might look like I had created it as well. Truth is I just needed a quick background image and never got around to finishing the site.



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« Reply #12 on: Jun 17th, 2009, 6:23pm »

on Jun 17th, 2009, 6:15pm, tomi01uk wrote:
Well .. since I'm obviously not a microwave or a toaster... I think you are missing the joint .. wink
tongue You didn't mean to say something but I thought maybe we should nip it right @ the bud ...


Please Stop getting off track..didnt you read Docs post? take it to PM.
You avoid relevant question yet eager to engage like this..What is your rationale for calling this motherload . Exactly what do you think it proves?when these people seem to appear late in the game in 2008.
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@blackwater thank you..I just saw that..good example..
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« Reply #13 on: Jun 17th, 2009, 6:35pm »

on Jun 17th, 2009, 3:53pm, Gojira wrote:
Seems to me the Alabama Drone should be included in the history of the Drones regardless of any individual beliefs


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Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man...



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« Reply #14 on: Jun 17th, 2009, 7:18pm »

The Mother Of All Loads is just another attempt to distract readers, and to re-establish Three Dollar Bill as something other than a shill for the hoaxers. How many more iterations of this baloney will we have to endure?
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« Reply #15 on: Jun 17th, 2009, 8:49pm »

As long as this is linked to drones it will take away from the beautiful art..It is beautiful, the retro, and then something more which goes more to psycho evocative art. Transhumanist art as these people are doing..Like this Paul Laffoley. The shapes of nodes and lines was meant, imo, as an artistic expression, some might just say techno art..but in terms of perspective of Laffolley..to associate to evoke provoke imagery at deepest and highest level.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&channelid=78054290 this and his other video quite good.. But shows these are very done ideas..

When I first started on this I saw a lttle of that in the inside imagey..an art device for discovery..

Nothing to do with ETs..but very much for ourselves.
In that sense you get out of it what you see..
now..
All I say..is if want to see this artists other work succeed..the art of these people, then dont link it up with the drones..
Once recognized in the stream of consciousness as a lie, very little can be done. Its beyond..Beyond nurturing and attention..afterthought..and redemption.
Simply repeating same arguments without answering the questions of the first motherload leaves one with just dead weight.
That no one wants.


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« Reply #16 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 04:09am »

Reading everyone's ideas here helps. It always helps, but right now it helps a great deal.

I've got to put more time into making sense out of that site and its associated sites and the interviews. Taking into consideration what everyone has said.

I'm still overwhelmed with the amount of material in the sites and I really cant come to a conclusion yet in my own mind. The reason why I said mother lode is just because there is so much, on first look, Caret like material in there ... Like I said, I need to put a lot more time in looking this over carefullly before getting to any more speculations.

edit to add: Amazingly the email I sent to them has been answered with the invitation to continue correspondence. Because of that I will not post the message here I was sent. I will continue communications with him about this and then share the info I've received, but right now he is saying he knows what is behind this drone business. He could be talking out of his hat or else he could be connected in some way.

The date August 31, 08, it is a year after the drone saga.... gotta think long and hard about this one...
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« Reply #17 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 06:26am »

on Jun 18th, 2009, 04:09am, tomi01uk wrote:
Reading everyone's ideas here helps. It always helps, but right now it helps a great deal.

I've got to put more time into making sense out of that site and its associated sites and the interviews. Taking into consideration what everyone has said.

I'm still overwhelmed with the amount of material in the sites and I really cant come to a conclusion yet in my own mind. The reason why I said mother lode is just because there is so much, on first look, Caret like material in there ... Like I said, I need to put a lot more time in looking this over carefullly before getting to any more speculations.

Yes, there seems a lot of material but it looks, to me anyway, that's it not really "a lot" of LAP and drones. Don't get swayed by the inclusion of some of the LAP fonts on many pages. Intent may be eye candy techno art as a lot of other images they are using.

I can't see the connection beyond the artist(s) borrowing some pieces. The tie-in with this whole affair does not hold together for me. The way they advertised and tried to get the word out about themselves (cards, flyers(?), word of mouth?) does not seem to fit in with what the true motive is. undecided Look how long it took for their site to be found and brought up for discussion.
If they did do it, it looks another failed effort.

I see it just more proof that there are imaginative people out there that can create things that make people go "whoa"! cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 07:31am »

on Jun 18th, 2009, 04:09am, tomi01uk wrote:
edit to add: Amazingly the email I sent to them has been answered with the invitation to continue correspondence. Because of that I will not post the message here I was sent. I will continue communications with him about this and then share the info I've received, but right now he is saying he knows what is behind this drone business. He could be talking out of his hat or else he could be connected in some way.

The date August 31, 08, it is a year after the drone saga.... gotta think long and hard about this one...


You are aware, that rred participated in the discussions at OMF, are'nt you?
So it is no wonder, that they use one of the fonts, which where "backengineered" there.

I remember him as a very serious guy, who thought about things, before he commented on them.
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« Reply #19 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 08:07am »

I findi it increduous that all this art has been out there for eons and people are shocked when then they are exposed to it ..I guess that would by that logic expose every artist in that genre as a hoaxter, that happened to use the retro art, including steampunk people and others...
like having ones mom pass away, and everytime we see someone that has her feature, or a bit of her mannerisms. we yell mom. As deep as the feeling may be we are not justified in doing that, but should be just thankful something someone is there to remind us of her..
I say welcome to the human experience, even though we think personally, there is no one like mom or her cooking, and should never think that others merely stole or plagiarized her recipe if you see someone else cook the same.




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« Reply #20 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 08:59am »

What a feeble attempt at stirring interest in a dead hoax. Each of these "exciting revelations" makes it more obvious that the DRT (members, outcasts, "non" members, and so on) have a vested interest in keeping this sad little episode alive.

Ah well, as usual, the DRT tells us more with their BS than anything else.
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« Reply #21 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 09:22am »

It would seem that there is a need for some to believe and for others a need for attention. And these examples are just the tip of the iceberg. Makes for an assured lemming following, and rightly so if you want to sell a book, or an artifact, some type of UFO gadget, viral marketing etc. I still have copies of my book to sell!
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