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« Reply #111 on: Jun 21st, 2009, 8:45pm »

Shads Its ours investigation not mine..its .us. all of ..it affects us all my friends both believers and not..
We can tear this item apart for anything of value, even if only a small fingerprint of the same perps in the beginning.
If the registry was false..imaginge..they had it set up a while ago..anticipating simple move of checking..the registry databases..I found if I can locate it again..where virgil was associated with 40 domain names ..so imagine..how easy to both lead and throw us off..
but what we have in hand..they cannot get around..
a combo of dumb mistake..by lev at abrahams trailer..and not so dumbluck on our part.
in the end..the AW site using enter the realm game logo..too
says this..and very very true..
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we can easily verify the connections to laffoyette and Bloom..by simply asking..if they disavow..then this is BS and name dropping..and misdirection.

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« Reply #112 on: Jun 21st, 2009, 9:11pm »

Congratulations, DRT shills! You have dumbed the discussion down to what may be a record low. I think it's time I got some fresh air.

What a load of energy sucks...
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« Reply #113 on: Jun 21st, 2009, 10:04pm »

It's pretty easy to see where this is headed. I'm afraid I don't have the stomach for yet another round of foolishness just now. Don't have the time, either, really. So I'll leave y'all for a while, with a famous Native American legend:

The Boy and the Snake

Often times young boys were sent from the village in search of a vision. This was the case of one particular young native boy.

He started to go up to the top of a mountain in search of his vision. And as he climbed up the mountain, the air got cooler and cooler. And he came upon a snake laying in the path. The snake was shivering, and said to the boy. "Please help me. I can't move, I am so cold that I can no longer make it any further down the mountain."

The boy said to the snake "No way! You're a snake, if I pick you up, you'll bite me!" The snake replied. "No, no I won't, I promise I won't bite you if you'll only pick me up and help get me down the mountain."

So the young boy picked up the snake, put him in his shirt, and continued climbing to the top of the mountain in search of his vision. When he got back down to the bottom of the mountain, he reached in, took out the snake, and the snake bit the young boy.

The boy replied to the snake "Hey! You bit me, you said that if I'd help you out, that you wouldn't bite me!"

The snake replied "But you knew what I was when you picked me up!"


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« Reply #114 on: Jun 21st, 2009, 10:09pm »

on Jun 21st, 2009, 8:45pm, DopeFish wrote:
Its ours investigation not mine..


Perhaps many are involved in the discussion.....but you my friend have done the bulk of the heavy lifting of investigation. I myself am not an investigator, and could never have uncovered 1/10th of what you have brought to light as fact.

I am simply an interested bystander that interjects a bit of common sense and levity when those that believe nonsense and try to muddy the waters of UFOlogy rise up to make fools of those that insist on real evidence!
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« Reply #115 on: Jun 21st, 2009, 10:15pm »

Double! how was dads day!
My son called me today and never mentioned the tab I wrung up raising him for 21 years! hahahahaha..just kidding..i had a quiet, sunny, clear blue skies one.
smiley hope yours and the others went well..

@Shads..you were thereto point out Lev before anyone.
You were there..when we need to expose Numbers..
We are blessed that we stood as long as we did against an entire website..and took much abuse from the same people that want fair audience..
Wwe have always been fair..just intolerant..of deceipt..for deceipts sake..to push more deceipt..under matching covers..
I salute you all..

now we know how art like film can be used to deceive..under the guise of truth..

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« Reply #116 on: Jun 21st, 2009, 10:50pm »

First Thanks to Sid who remembered Virgil at ATS..I think if we look at time perioids..and the what each of these virgils only two who posted ..we can see a similarity..

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Shall we call an end to sub rosa?
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Well if you could not view the thumbnail. Here it is:

Notice the similarities. Can anyone update me on what happened regarding this topic? I started looking back some pages but am just lost. Was this proven to be a hoax by someone? Like I said, the technology is there and can very much be functional. I'm not saying so much the Sigils but they are the same concept. I am talking more about the anti-gravity system.

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Well, I don't know what is going on in the last 50 pages but I just had some information to put forward.

First, look at what "Isaac" writes about the "language."

The language is actually a "functional blueprint". The forms of the shapes, symbols and arrangements thereof is itself functional. What makes it all especially difficult to grasp is that every element of each "diagram" is dependant on and related to every other element, which means no single detail can be created, removed or modified independently. Humans like written language because each element of the language can be understood on its own, and from this, complex expressions can be built. However, their "language" is entirely context-sensitive, which means that a given symbol could mean as little as a 1-bit flag in one context, or, quite literally, contain the entire human genome or a galaxy star map in another.

Imagine I ask you to incrementally add random words to a list such that no two words use any of the same letters, and you must perform this exercise entirely in your head, so you can't rely on a computer or even a pen and paper. If the first in the list was, say, "fox", the second item excludes all words with the letters F, O and X. If the next word you choose is "tree", then the third word in the list can't have the letters F, O, X, T, R, or E in it.


[color=Yellow]Now I'd like you to look up something called Sigils.


edit..hmmmmmmmmm err okay..

en.wikipedia.org...

There are a lot more sources on Sigils on the net. More that go in depth with how to create and use Sigils. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not a firm believer in magic being a mystical force from Heaven or Hell. I am footed in the fact that what is known to us as "magic" was passed to us to advance the human race. In the drone context, it is used in conjunction with technology. Plain and simple. Sigils are the same thing that Isaac writes of. A symbol has a full meaning or function. It is thought of or put in a specific environment to perform the function. Think on it.

Secondly, I want you to look at the inventory photo. Memorize what the top three rings look like.

edit..you mean there's more?

isaaccaret.fortunecity.com...
edit..I never would have guessed it..Now, the anti-gravity technology currently being utitilized by Lockheed Martin and other private government contractors, uses the Lorentz O for propulsion. Take a look at the second video thumbnail down. Notice any similarities between the inventory objects and the object being shown in the thumbnail?

video.google.com...

The inventory objects look very similar to the object in the thumbnail on the Tesla video. Tesla came up with an invention that mimiced the pulsating energy of the sun. It was a ring. At each of the four corners were plates that would pulse with electricity and if one wanted to, an object could be placed in the center, such as a fan blade, and it would spin as the pulse went in a circular motion around the four outside electrical plates. Now, if you know about ion wind or lifters, this should interest you about the creation of plasma and anti-gravity. The rings can work off of one another generating plasma. If you don't know about plasma, lifters, or ion wind for anti-gravity, please look it up.

I won't say what I know or do not know for sure but I will tell you that the photos of the inventory can very much be functional in the right context.


Shall we call an end to sub rosa?

hello my friends.
i call you my friends because I have known you for some time.
i have read the coming clean on extraterrestrials.
i have read the area 51 "employee" chatting.
i have seen the moon mining pictures.
i have been enthralled by serpo.

i can no longer dally. you are important. i am not.

the tide is in your favor, not mine.

now i step forward, someone in the "know". the risk, not being what it once was.
i volunteer nothing and will respond to what i can.
the pillars tremble to the call of the end of sub rosa.


we can go to two routes here ,this

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Look up sub rosa in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
For other uses, see Sub Rosa (disambiguation).
The Latin phrase sub rosa means "under the rose" and is used in English to denote secrecy or confidentiality, similar to the Chatham House Rule.

The rose was the emblem of the god Horus in ancient Egypt. Later the Greeks and Romans regarded this as god of silence.
T
he rose's connotation for secrecy also dates back to Greek mythology. Aphrodite gave a rose to her son Eros, the god of love; he, in turn, gave it to Harpocrates, the god of silence, to ensure that his mother's indiscretions (or those of the gods in general, in other accounts) were kept under wraps. Paintings of roses on the ceilings of Roman banquet rooms were also a reminder that things said under the influence of wine (sub vino) should also remain sub rosa. [1] In the Middle Ages a rose suspended from the ceiling of a council chamber similarly pledged all present (those under the rose) to secrecy.[1]

In Christian symbology the phrase "sub rosa" has a special place in confessions. Pictures of five-petaled roses were often carved on confessionals, indicating that the conversations will maintain secret.

More recently, "sub rosa" activities have become a byword for covert operations, usually by security services. Originating primarily in the Canadian and American special forces, this meaning has been gradually spreading to other countries and in particular the United Kingdom. Currently covert operations by the Special Boat Service uses the term in the vernacular.

wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub_rosa"

But I think it was more of this actuallyhttp://subrosa.dailygrail.com/aboutus.html
http://www.artifice-design.co.uk/portfolio.html
http://www.artifice-design.co.uk/portfolio_misc.html

and a likely this too http://howtorockstar.blogspot.com/2005_05_01_archive.html
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and not this guy....from 2003..this one from alabama calling himself virgil crow caine..but who knows..he has so many sites..
http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2003-1/1churchly_news/X0017_KevinBrowdeninJail_t.html
http://www.myspace.com/bowdenkevin

I remember he used rockland st New york..thats why it caught my eye..that blog and his connections to France
caught my eye as well..

Perhaps he just wants to use this as Immersive art..he can..Use a hoax..He can..and as Sid once said very easy.

That does not dispell the Leviathan connection to Warners Zodiac people using without an iota of credit..and AWs incorporation on a very very tight time schedule....and unless they were doing it as part of something greater..
and is why even 45 letters..said the number of people involved..from different fields , was considerable...
which is why I speculate as to the artists laffoyette and Bloom.

but the time for anyone or all of them to keep us dangling as Mask likes to say..is over..
If it was a study..I can say..we skewed their results..because now they will have no audience..not even me..

the Jig is up..

We learned a lot more about them than they us and their methods..very effective I might add..and rewarding to me personally to see it work on them.
If they want another unsuccessful hoax next time
and immediate war or international incident send us more Numbers.
If they want hope to just run the clock..by all means tomi.
If they want us to convert to Buddahism..Don't send Nemo.
If you want participatory and immersive and living art..Go to the beach, South of France perhaps.
If you want Go to heaven, Don't send Lev

PS That IA membger doogie11 and the Bob Xu like Stu at http://www.Duhism.com was a nice touch. The Korean Raelien Babes in Bikinis was AoK!
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_gathering_of_Ra%C3%ABlians_in_South_Korea.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGosYIlXdmU
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« Reply #117 on: Jun 22nd, 2009, 10:34am »

on Jun 21st, 2009, 10:09pm, TheShadow wrote:
Perhaps many are involved in the discussion.....but you my friend have done the bulk of the heavy lifting of investigation. I myself am not an investigator, and could never have uncovered 1/10th of what you have brought to light as fact.

I am simply an interested bystander that interjects a bit of common sense and levity when those that believe nonsense and try to muddy the waters of UFOlogy rise up to make fools of those that insist on real evidence!


What he said. Well put, Shads. I have never described or thought of myself as an investigator. In the past year or so, I have dabbled in some digging for facts relevant to the work here, only to find that my discoveries were posted by Sysco, likely as not, many months previous. I'm happy to pull my shift on the maintenance of the BS filter. It's a lot of work keeping that thing from getting clogged up.

Father's Day was fine, Sysco. The older I get, the more humbled I am by the work and the sacrifices my parents made, in my best interest. I can't thank them enough.
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« Reply #118 on: Jun 22nd, 2009, 12:20pm »

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Amen
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« Reply #119 on: Jun 22nd, 2009, 1:28pm »

on Jun 21st, 2009, 8:45pm, Sys_Config wrote:
Shads Its ours investigation not mine..its .us. all of ..it affects us all my friends both believers and not..





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« Reply #120 on: Jun 22nd, 2009, 2:07pm »

I went by the name Internal Astronaut for a bit, I then quit almost all art on the web. I was confronted by an organization that wanted me to build them a graphic interface for a site that they called INTERNALASTRONAUT.COM. They paid me, I built and that was it. I dont follow what they do, I think they are not evil or in anyway trying to create discomfort to you all, but come on! BTW, because I have had alien encounters that makes me sickhuh (AS has been posted in this thread?) Whatever. Leave me out of your twisted psychodrama, thank you very much
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« Reply #121 on: Jun 22nd, 2009, 2:08pm »

Ok, this is Virgil T. Crow from the infamous VCI Films (now defunct) what in God's name are you people talking about here? I am not part of any grand conspiracy about this that or the other. Why dont you people try going to the source instead of flying off half cocked spouting outrageous claims about me without talking to with me about them???
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« Reply #122 on: Jun 22nd, 2009, 2:14pm »

on Jun 21st, 2009, 4:54pm, Sys_Config wrote:
For sure the false info on his registry should be a caveat to be taken seriously..prepare for the bigger lies.

The kids time program on the site..was imo , after reference to abductions and nine year olds..rather sick..
not funny at all..This is a very sick group I think..irrespective of the cute retro art..



WTF??? Flase registry??? With people like you who are running around hiring PI's to find out where I am??? You are dangerous folks, I am an artist, not SATAN or JESUS, just a guy trying to say something, but nothing about drones!
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« Reply #123 on: Jun 22nd, 2009, 2:20pm »

And I see you think Shep from Obey is in league with Satan as well? How about Ryden??? He could also be an evil operative, better call the PI's! This is typical of folks that have too much time on the old hands. Find a hobby that doesnt revolve around talkin dirt about complete strangers, unless you are starting a tabloid!
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« Reply #124 on: Jun 22nd, 2009, 2:41pm »

I built 20 different interfaces for the group, along with a bunch of individual elements that could be tied in thru flash. I also created stand alone sub-programs that can run off the main interfaces. I finished the work in 2006. They have all the edit files and the flash dudes they have are able to manipulate and change around stuff as needed. They have only used 3 of the 20 interfaces so far I think. I made enough cash from the deal to not have to work for a couple of years, all this drone stuff came after me. I'm sure this info is not good enough for you but I am telling you, if you or any other wack-job conspiracy nuts come knocking on my door, they will wish they didn't
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« Reply #125 on: Jun 22nd, 2009, 2:50pm »

Hello Virgil and welcome to the forum,

If you read the thread you will notice that there is only one or two members who have posted anything regarding your site/s or work and all of the posts you’ve referenced so far is from the one member and all the information is, I believe, freely available on the internet and amongst the first that Google returns.

Incidentally one of our members has also posted that she’s in contact with someone representing the IA website who is claiming prior knowledge/ownership of the Drone Hoax and this is why some members looked into it.

But either way the posts you mention are one persons opinion and should in no way be taken as a representation of the forum in general, but back to the IA website, to be honest the main link I personally seen was the letters/symbols used throughout the site which while being incredibly similar I also believe appeared after the ones used in the CARET documentation first appeared, also this particular aspect (the IA website) has only been ‘discussed’ for the last six or seven days.

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