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« Reply #580 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 5:35pm »

on Oct 7th, 2009, 5:31pm, neveleeleven wrote:
Mickey Mouse is trademarked you idiot!

Do you still not know the difference??

Geeez you are so ignorant.


Exactly the point.. You think you can take "creative work" that doesn't belong to you or you are not authorised to use and print it on tshirts to market and sell? You are seriously wrong here .. not me.
And if you have to resort to calling me names that just defines the limits of your small brain, IMO.
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« Reply #581 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 5:38pm »

3.Copyright in the derivative work
Provided it is significantly different to the original work the derivative work will be subject to copyright in it's own right, and you will own copyright to the new content you have created as a result of your actions. Bear in mind that to be subject to copyright the creation of the derivative work must itself be an original work of skill, labour and judgement; minor alterations that do not substantially alter the original would not qualify.


Now you are proving yourself wrong and you don't even realize it!

The symbols from Alienware ARE significantly different. There is nothing that suggests that it was a 100% copy and paste. They had to create the work with their own skill, labour, and judgement. They added their own style to it too.

When it says "minor alterations that do not substantially alter the original would not qualify" they are talking about taking the actual LAP itself, and changing 1 or 2 symbols and then using it.

What Alienware did, is they looked at the LAP, and they created an entirely knew LAP with their own setup, their own lines, their own FONT. The only similarity is that it is made of arcs, and gears/cogs, and geometric shapes.... There is absolutely NOTHING that is 100% the same.

Get a damn clue...

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« Reply #582 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 5:42pm »

on Oct 7th, 2009, 5:38pm, neveleeleven wrote:
3.Copyright in the derivative work
Provided it is significantly different to the original work the derivative work will be subject to copyright in it's own right, and you will own copyright to the new content you have created as a result of your actions. Bear in mind that to be subject to copyright the creation of the derivative work must itself be an original work of skill, labour and judgement; minor alterations that do not substantially alter the original would not qualify.


Now you are proving yourself wrong and you don't even realize it!

The symbols from Alienware ARE significantly different. There is nothing that suggests that it was a 100% copy and paste. They had to create the work with their own skill, labour, and judgement. They added their own style to it too.

When it says "minor alterations that do not substantially alter the original would not qualify" they are talking about taking the actual LAP itself, and changing 1 or 2 symbols and then using it.

What Alienware did, is they looked at the LAP, and they created an entirely knew LAP with their own setup, their own lines, their own FONT. The only similarity is that it is made of arcs, and gears/cogs, and geometric shapes.... There is absolutely NOTHING that is 100% the same.

Get a damn clue...



Your significant difference and mine may vary.. I see nothing significantly "original" in design from the design of the LAP.
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« Reply #583 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 5:46pm »

on Oct 7th, 2009, 5:35pm, tomi01uk wrote:
Exactly the point.. You think you can take "creative work" that doesn't belong to you or you are not authorised to use and print it on tshirts to market and sell?


No I never said that you freaking moron. Learn how to read.

I said you can look at "creative work", get inspired by it, and create your own work that looks similar. That falls under Fair Use.

However if the creative work is "TRADEMARKED" that means specific elements, precise measurements, can not be recreated.

Do you understand the difference between Trademark and Copyright? If you do, tell me then...I want to see if you know.

on Oct 7th, 2009, 5:35pm, tomi01uk wrote:
You are seriously wrong here .. not me.
And if you have to resort to calling me names that just defines the limits of your small brain, IMO.


Nope, I am right here, you are the clueless one.

Resorting to name calling does not define the limit of ones brain, thinking that means you know nothing about psychology either.

It defines the limit that one can withstand someones bullshit and ignorance before they feel the need to tell the other person they are bullshit and ignorant, stupid and fucking plain retarded.

How dare you even mention my brain, it is obvious I have knowledge in 1000 more subjects than you, and you will never be able to comprehend half the things I know.

You don't even know what a "Letigraphonate" is...hahahahahahahaha
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« Reply #584 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 5:51pm »

on Oct 7th, 2009, 5:42pm, tomi01uk wrote:
Your significant difference and mine may vary.. I see nothing significantly "original" in design from the design of the LAP.


Tomi, you are a blind old hag. You are decaying. Your mind is incapable of seeing true reality. You have no clue about light, or shadows.

I will prove it too...

Remember a long time ago I showed a picture of knife? I asked if it was real or fake... You said "it is obviously fake".... well guess what... it was a REAL KNIFE, and I took a picture of it on top of my washing machine to make it look like it was in a 3D environment. I even messed with all of your minds and told you true 3D graphics tricks to get your mind to see it different. Your mind is what controls your vision, and I know how to manipulate both. You got played.

You swore up and down it was a fake knife, but you were wrong. Completely wrong. It's funny I waited over a year to tell you that.

Get your eyes and mind checked.

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« Reply #585 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 5:55pm »

Look never, you are too out in left field and too nasty and vulgar in your arguments to even bother with.

"Every artist is a cannibel, every poet is a theif.."

fair use if use it in a headline to an article..
infringement if I print tshirts with it and sell them..

If I take the concept and reword it, I'm copyrighted if I publish...

Same with designs..

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« Reply #586 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 6:01pm »

The real creators will never complain, so if someone wants to claim copyright and ask for a fee go for it. So easy to fan this flame.
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« Reply #587 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 6:11pm »

It's because someone needs to put you in your place.

You are too ignorant to understand basic concepts, to blind to make basic comparisons, and to dumb to comprehend simple laws.

The plain fact that you think you can sum up "Fair Use" in one sentence means you have no clue what it is for. All the professionals know "Fair Use" is not a clear cut law, and is open to many disputes..... Seriously read up on it, you need to.



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« Reply #588 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 6:18pm »

I don't see any difference between this discussion and people like LMH.

It's all the same.

I also don't see any difference to religious extremists. It's all the same.

Only that religion has some relation to real life.

By for now and to god be the glory!
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« Reply #589 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 6:19pm »

on Oct 7th, 2009, 6:11pm, neveleeleven wrote:
It's because someone needs to put you in your place.

You are too ignorant to understand basic concepts, to blind to make basic comparisons, and to dumb to comprehend simple laws.

The plain fact that you think you can sum up "Fair Use" in one sentence means you have no clue what it is for. All the professionals know "Fair Use" is not a clear cut law, and is open to many disputes..... Seriously read up on it, you need to.





I'm ignorant? If you think you can mix up Trademark law with Copyright law you are whistleing dixie out of your keyhole.. yet again..

There is as wide a gulf between those two fields of IP law as you can get. The only thing I'm talking about here is copyright.
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« Reply #590 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 6:23pm »

on Oct 7th, 2009, 5:27pm, tomi01uk wrote:
Never.. go take your favorite version of Mickey Mouse and put him on tshirts and coffeecups then get back to me later after you see what happens .. ok?



Funny you should mention this!

The following is 100% true and accurate!

Many moons ago in a previous life in the north of the USA I was a painter. A housepainter that moonlighted doing wall murals on the side. Disney characters were my bread and butter (this was back when Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid were the rage) I was threatened by Disney lawyers but you know what......I changed enough of the character and Disney could not sue. All it took was to change the characters enough that they were not exact replicas. (ie: change the color of the Beasts jacket and make his fangs come from the top instead of the bottom and make the Little Mermaid's hair any color but red!) and Disney could not sue and win! I went round and round with their lawyers until they finally said i was right!!

End of story!

So tomi.....what do you say to this??
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« Reply #591 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 6:26pm »

on Oct 7th, 2009, 6:01pm, Masker33 wrote:
The real creators will never complain, so if someone wants to claim copyright and ask for a fee go for it. So easy to fan this flame.

Yes your flame is easy to fan and predict too Masker. Blah Blah Blah, the real creators are not of this world, have no need to claim the rights and you know some secret. There I said it for you.
This and the Tomi Show is getting boring as H E double toothpicks and painful as well. tongue
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« Reply #592 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 6:30pm »

on Oct 7th, 2009, 6:23pm, TheShadow wrote:
Funny you should mention this!

Many moons ago in a previous life in the north of the USA I was a painter. A housepainter that moonlighted doing wall murals on the side. Disney characters were my bread and butter (this was back when Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid were the rage) I was threatened by Disney lawyers but you know what......I changed enough of the character and Disney could not sue. All it took was to change the characters enough that they were not exact replicas. (ie: change the color of the Beasts jacket and make his fangs come from the top instead of the bottom and make the Little Mermaid's hair any color but red!) and Disney could not sue and win! I went round and round with their lawyers until they finally said i was right!!

End of story!

So tomi.....what do you say to this??


I'd say the wouldn't have let go of you so fast if you had a franchise going across many states... that's for sure..

They mess with insurance companies when they go after infringements, or they just nip what they can in the bud.

I'm not an IPR lawyer, I have in a previous life done the sue 13 companies for copyright infringement and prevailed.. all in the manner I've described here.
But that was products and a distribution chain, which is where firm law is established in precidents and sheppared through in procedures. Like I've described.
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« Reply #593 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 6:32pm »

on Oct 7th, 2009, 6:30pm, tomi01uk wrote:
I'd say the wouldn't have let go of you so fast if you had a franchise going across many states... that's for sure..

They mess with insurance companies when they go after infringements, or they just nip what they can in the bud.

I'm not an IPR lawyer, I have in a previous life done the sue 13 companies for copyright infringement and prevailed.. all in the manner I've described here.
But that was products and a distribution chain, which is where firm law is established in precidents and sheppared through in procedures. Like I've described.


10% is the key to make it original! So you have been proven WRONG once again!! Why not drop it and move on to your next sanctioned diversion
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« Reply #594 on: Oct 7th, 2009, 6:34pm »

I'm just here to make Tomi shut up. Don't mind me. LOL

So what is the point of all this?

We all know it's a HOAX. We can prove it many different ways.

Who the heck cares about who and why? It's obvious the "Who" doesn't matter since they don't know anything. Nothing they said was true, nothing they ever will say in the future could ever be trusted. If they are trying to hoax people, they are just worthless, talentless, scumbags. Nothing they said was original and can be found in many sci-fi books and movies, nothing they did was important at all.

The only thing they accomplished was fooling a bunch of gullible people, and ANYBODY can do that! That's not an accomplishment, that is inevitability. Anyone can create an image that fools half the people that looks at it, and anybody can tell a lie that fools half the people that hear it, and anybody can create a bunch of fake documents to support a lie, it's done all the time.

They certainly accomplished pissing off the wrong people, that is for sure.

The Why? Since it is all a lie, and all a hoax, the why is certainly something mundane.

Seriously, the recent "Spain UFO hoax" cost more money than this drone hoax, and it was only for a tribute to someone.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread505739/pg1

They go through all the trouble to make this Spain hoax, they fool hundreds of gullible people with the inability to see with their eyes correctly, and then later admit it was all a hoax. All for a tribute to someone....

The drone hoax is not even close to being as costly as the Spain UFO, so it must be something was less mundane.

Anyway, I'm going back to the sidelines before I'm tempted to illegally enter someones computer and compromise identities.


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