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« Reply #1095 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:36am »

Pvt:

Attorney, Todd Schwartz is not Isaac.

If you Google Todd Schwartz you will find he one of several lawyers that have an office in Lake Oswego, Oregon.

It isn't a stretch to imagine that Isaac consulted with his attorney about releasing his story in a public forum and website.

I get the feeling that Todd was being helpful but really had no clue as to what he was getting himself involved with. He was just trying to be helpful to his client and friend, Isaac. That's what lawyers do.

He may have advised Isaac to put his info on the Fortune city site and contact C2C.

If one lived in the community of Lake Oswego you might find Isaac at the local grocery store buying some supplies. Just like any of us.

Lake Oswego is a beautiful place to retire to and that is probably exactly what Isaac did.

The best thing for Isaac to do is to post a LOT more information. Why wait. The more public one is about these things the safer you are.

As they say, the cat is already out of the bag. You can't put the toothpaste back into the tube.

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« Reply #1096 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:45am »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:25am, Juniper wrote:
I think he just smelled easy money after seeing the original site and bought the domain just to make quick cash in case this grows into something bigger.


No, because the site was open in the first week of June and instead appears abandoned. This would be because they didn't realize that being a domain that the name of the website owner would be available to the public - as it most certainly was.

Isaac opened up a secondary website that does not allow the public to discover who owns it. This would have been done after the attorney opened the first site on behalf of Isaac.

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« Reply #1097 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:52am »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:29am, GForce wrote:
To debunk something you have to have hard facts.


Debunkers do not present evidence. Instead you'll see a one line post that looks like this.

HOAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the other type of debunker confuses an issue and instead brings in only such things that are questionable but never speaks in a positive nature on other items that we have evidence for or are not questionable, such as a photo that nobody found a discrepancy in.

That is as well considered unhealthy skepticism. It's not necessarily what they did comment on, instead, it's what they didn't comment on that might have been factual.



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« Reply #1098 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:53am »

At the risk of being attacked for not knowing this, how do we know that Issac isn't Todd Schwartz?
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« Reply #1099 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:54am »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 09:37am, pvtjoker75 wrote:
Are there any other sources of info to go look? I love seeing all of the in-depth analysis that people have done so far, including analyzing the fonts to death and even going as far as trying to decipher the "writing"

Not so much on the speculation front, but I’ve compiled a .PDF with all the facts, timeline, reports, images etc.

2007 DRONE REPORTS HISTORY (.PDF)

Download The Entire 2007 Drone UFO Sightings, Reports And Images.

I was getting sick of constantly searching for already reported pieces of information regarding the Drone witnesses, chronology of sightings, photographs, time line, web site etc. etc.

So I decided to compile every 2007 Drone sighting, report and images gathered so far into an easily accessible PDF document.

The image sizes have been reduced to fit into this document and reduce download time, all of the original images may be viewed and saved by following the respective link in the Timeline History at the end of the document.

All except Rajman1977 who has since closed his Flikr account, so I’ve provided a download link to a file where these may be downloaded and viewed at their original size.

Please note that all of the documentation contained within is an exact representation of all of the original reports as they were made, including spelling mistakes etc.

As the title suggest I have compiled this PDF as a direct frame of reference to the, “Drone UFO Flap” and as such have provided a comprehensive list of bookmarks to allow for swift and easy navigation and access of the information, the basic contents are listed below,

Chad - Bakersfield, California
Wife - Lake Tahoe, Nevada
Rajman1977 – Capitola, California
Jenna L/Stephen – Big Basin, California
Ty – Big Basin, California
The Isaac Cover Letter
The Isaac Documents
May 2006: Birmingham, Alabama
July 1st 1999: Italy
October 26th 1967: Flying Cross Shaped UFO
Timeline Of Drones Reports & History

Download The Drone History .PDF file HERE.

Which reminds me MarkM, thanks for the kind words and hope it’s useful.…..

on Jul 2nd, 2007, 7:54pm, MarkM wrote:
DrDil - WOW! I just downloaded your PDF compilation file, very well done! Thank you for putting all of the time and effort into doing that. No small task!

I urge everyone to grab the file, it's a great reference. See the link at the bottom of DrDil's posts. Once at the download site scroll down and look for the flashing red arrow.
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« Reply #1100 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:00am »

i make no apologies fo being skeptical and hard to convince, but i also think its a waste of time to whine and moan on the internet, which is why i advocate action

investigation is the the best way to load the dice in our favor, we cant get any pictures and video sitting around on the boards, i think organizing an expedition to the sites is at least a step in the right direction

perhaps presence in those areas will cause the drone operators to be curious and send drones to observe...

thats why audio amplification equipment must be brought, to detect the drone presence in the area and help determine where cameras should be pointed.

the drones will be heard long before they can be seen, one could be behind a tree 20 yards away and you wouldnt know it, but scanning with an enhanced microphone will locate it... maybe even night vision goggles, dont rely on just your eyes

i personally would love to be proven wrong, would love to be convinced but until something solid comes up...well..

but i do have a gut feeling about this drone thing, its pretty compelling, i say persue evidence and make observations
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« Reply #1101 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:02am »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:53am, hjdelight wrote:
At the risk of being attacked for not knowing this, how do we know that Issac isn't Todd Schwartz?


We don't. A lot at this point is assumption but would you risk your law office on such a fabulous lie. What jury is going to ever find any credibility in what it is you do or say in a court room ever again if you were the one who pretened to be this Isaac character back in 2007?


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« Reply #1102 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:03am »

I've just heard that there's absolutely nothing in the new Transformer movie that matches any of this, no drones, no symbols. But it is a fun movie!
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« Reply #1103 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:08am »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:53am, hjdelight wrote:
At the risk of being attacked for not knowing this, how do we know that Issac isn't Todd Schwartz?


If Todd Schwartz is a lawyer I don't think he'd take a chance on losing his reputation to perpetrate a hoax. What would he have to gain?
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« Reply #1104 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:15am »


If Todd Schwartz is a lawyer I don't think he'd take a chance on losing his reputation to perpetrate a hoax. What would he have to gain? [/quote]



I totally agree. I am an attorney and I can't imagine a lawyer who would take part in such a thing. The damage to credibility and reputation would be incalculable. Another way to perhaps rule him out is to use his professional site, if he has one, [or his yellow page listing as a starting point] to determine his age, graduation year from law school and so on. His age/education/employment history is likely to demonstrate if he is even possbily in the age category of someone who had a previous employment history in the 1980'. Of course, that assumes that Isaac is being straighforward with his work history dates. Ah, what a web!!
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« Reply #1105 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:16am »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:54am, DrDil wrote:
Not so much on the speculation front, but I’ve compiled a .PDF with all the facts, timeline, reports, images etc.

2007 DRONE REPORTS HISTORY (.PDF)

Download The Entire 2007 Drone UFO Sightings, Reports And Images.


Very good. I like it. Should you also include the Yosemite, Sequoia reports? Then there are the Tucson and the new Alabama reports.
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« Reply #1106 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:16am »

JW, I'd love to go on safari for one of these things (cameras, not rifles), unfortunately I'm in in Northeast and about as far away from the hot spots as one can get! I do have a map with Maine sightings marked, some as recently as two months ago (non drone).

In tossing around equipment ideas, I still think ultraviolet light - either absorption or refraction - has something to do with the cloaking. can't be as simple as wearing polarized sunglasses I suppose or we'd catch them buzzing the beach!

In his book, "Sight Unseen: Science, UFO Invisibility and Transgenic Beings", Budd Hopkins discusses a case where an abduction occurs (discovered later) while some sort of time suspension and cloaking occurs. One of the individuals was in the process of taking a photo of another couple. When developed, the couple did not appear in the photo and it was the only frame that had a reddish coloration to it. Whatever was playing a role in the invisibility process also effected the light range that the camera could record.
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« Reply #1107 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:17am »

Atrueoriginal:

Thank you! You are thinking like I do, in a logical manner.

People like to put a lot of hocus pocus into this story, when the facts that stare at them in the face, they ignore or don't understand.

Delight:

Do a little research and you can find Mr. Schwartz' photograph. It's been on several sites already. He is a relatively young man. Whilst our friend Isaac is, by my calculation, around 75 years old.

Think logically, my friends. Believe me, it's a lot easier and less tiresome on the brain.

Are we having fun or whathuh

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« Reply #1108 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:18am »

Hi guys... I have re-read all of the testimonies on Earthfiles (thanks LMH) and submitters. Here is a breakdown of information I found there:

June 26, 2007 – Isaac gives whistle blowing report

June 25, 2007 -- Near Maxwell AFB, Montgomery Alabama – by “Ted Conners” (alias) said he saw craft resembling Chad photo right before dusk while he was on duty in his security work that involves 32 infrared cameras and high frequency infrared technology 6 miles from Maxwell AFB and its Gunter AFB Annex in Montgomery, Alabama.
(high frequency infrared – cloaking distorterhuh)

June 5, 2007 – Big Basin Redwoods State Park – “Stephen” sent in photos of drone identical to the Ty photos.

June 5, 2007 – -- near Saratoga California in Big Basin Redwoods State Park -- by Ty B. whose cycling group saw the bizarre aerial object three times on June 5, 2007. One of his cyclist buddies worked for newspaper in bay area…. And said that someone had turned in photos of the drone a year or so earlier with reports from sightings in the Saratoga area and they were told in no uncertain terms to ignore the story entirely.

May 16, 2007 -- Capitola, California, east of Santa Cruz on Monterey Bay – by Rajman1977 sent in photos.

May 16, 2007 – comments sent to LMH from nano-engineer "The design strategy of charged ion / shaped plasma 'buoyancy' devices does bear some relevancy here. For instance, the circular array of curved 'antennae' coming out of the center of the device is very similar to a form of wave guide / shaping mechanism for a charged plasma / ion field." - Nanotech Engineer

May 15, 2007 – Madisonville Tennessee – photo of 170 ft diameter crop circle with image of circular pattern in diamond/cross shape extremely similar to image on the bottom of the craft “tail” taken in Chad photos.

May 6, 2007 – Bakersfield California – by Chad -- submitted photos of craft with the most detail of the “alien” writing underneath and had heard crackling noises from what appeared to be ‘electrostatic field discharges.’

May 5, 2007 – Lake Tahoe area – Anonymous “MUFON submitter” submitted photo of a more simpler drone near rooftop/trees. Heard crackling noises.

June 10, 2006 Yosemite National Park -- Mother with two sons saw drone at night and boys shown flashlights on it. (she submitted sketch to Earthfiles on May 23, 2007)

May 2006 – Northridge California , just north of Topanga State Park-- Dr. of Divinity, 74 yr old “Robert Mariotti” said he saw aerial craft drone with long tail “horseshoe crab looking” (reported it to Earthfiles in May 07) saw craft at night and it was lit up bright fluorescent green – another drive in car next to him saw it at same time.

May, 2006 – Birmingham Alabama near construction site -- “John Smith” saw craft and took photos above telephone wires (strange unmarked trailers and trucks were nearby)

May 2005 – Sequoia National Park – Shirley

1999 – Italy Photo

October 1995 – Sitgreaves National Forest, Arizona -- “Ned White” electronics and automation engineer. Drone he saw while camping looked like the Birmingham Alabama drone, more simple than later photos. He felt electricity, heard crackling noises and his GPS device didn’t work at that moment. (GPS uses microwave transmissions from satellites to work) Witness said it seemed like it was using electrostatic levitation.

1987 - Barksdale AFB, Louisiana – man saw drone that looked exactly like the Alabama drone mounted on a cart in a hangar near where an air show was going on until Military personnel shooed people away from that hangar.


Must read From Earthfiles: LMH
Star Wars Physicist Edward Teller
And Remotely Piloted Vehicles (RPVs)
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1268&category=Environment part 1 in its entirety
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1269&category=Environment (second half of above report – you have to read this document if you haven’t already from Edward Teller to President Reagan at the onset of Star Wars)

Now......my (castle's) summation IMHO -- Isaac is for real, the alien technogy is for real. US has been re-creating it for STARWARS defense against the "enemy" see documents in links. Star Wars and CARET began near same time. Some of the drones could actually be the alien drones, some could be US recreations. Either way... aliens are real, US has been testing their technology, and I am sure they are REALLY wondering why the cloaking device keeps being deactivated... this is blowing their secret and basically (and very scarely) uncovering and infiltrating their means of star wars defense. This should concern us.

For you Quote/unquote DEBUNKERS .. you remind me of the "Bashers" in my stock forums. People planted there to intentionally bash the stock to create doubt and drive the price down.
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« Reply #1109 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:21am »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:53am, hjdelight wrote:
At the risk of being attacked for not knowing this, how do we know that Issac isn't Todd Schwartz?


ROFL - HJ, you should know by now that you shouldn't ever use the words, "At the risk of being attacked". LOL grin grin

You be funny - eek, eek

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