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« Reply #1230 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:23pm »

If we have to depend on the truth coming from a lawyer [of all things], then we're in trouble.

Better to find answers from a small creature under a rock. wink

I am still stuck at the blacked out parts of Isaac's notes. It bothers me. There isn't anything in those blacked out pieces that the government wouldn't already know, so it is just US who is in the dark.

What's the motivation? I do not like being manipulated, which is how I feel because of this. Something is fishy to me.
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« Reply #1231 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:23pm »

"which camera can do 72 DPS"

I have a FinePix 2600Z digital camera. ALL of the pictures are 72 DPI, only the size (pixel dimension) varies. I rescale them as needed (print, screen) in Photoshop. If you have it set to a finer setting it will still be 72 DPI but the image will be huge and vice versa.
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« Reply #1232 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:24pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 1:01pm, Latitude wrote:
But to answer or give my opinion. No, I do not believe this is him. I thought Isaac had a degree in electrical engineering, not education.


Isaac's offerings don't seem to have the tech depth of an EE. He seems to be more big picture with personal interest in linguitics and the info storage, function problems. E.g, only one brief mention of 'field', i think. Was struck in the brain when i googled inteliant. Yes, a big IT background would seem very approp. for the interdisciplinary crew making up CARET.
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« Reply #1233 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:28pm »

on Jul 2nd, 2007, 12:03pm, Latitude wrote:
Consider what it would take to be a hoax. All of the photos. All of the documents. All of the witnesses, some on audio interviews. How many insiders would have to be duped. All of it would have to be orchestrated perfectly. Not one screw up. Not one missed T crossed or I dotted. Not one photo with a discrepancy in it. The fonts of the documents matching the photos with perfect precision.

If this is a hoax it's without a doubt is the most elaborate of all time. If someone can post an example of a hoax more flawlessly executed I like to see it.

If this is real the obvious answer is exactly what it is trying to tell us. ET drones are here and have been for a long time. Likely the only government conspiracy is the cover up of the ET presence and of recovered ET tech. The PTB don't want disclosure. They never have and never will. Whistleblowers have come before Isaac. He's not the first but he is the most credible and the PTB are going to have a hard time covering it up this time.


Consider this software which will be released in the near future in a completely free form.

There are others....

For a talented individual with the correct tools, this is now in the range of a few months work. Which is reasonable for someone who was dedicated. People spend more time on things like World of Warcraft.

true story / joke

Student did this as a school project.

Went out every day to the local football field.
Brought a bag of seed with him, wore a striped shirt, carried a whistle

Blew the whistle, threw out some seed

did this every day for over a couple of months. Did it various times of the day.

Now comes Football season

Out step the officials to start the game

They blow their whistle.

Here come the birds.....

Point being, a person spent a lot of time to achieve this end result.

The Student got a A on his paper. especially since the experiment took place on the field of a rival school.
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« Reply #1234 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:29pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:16pm, urantia606 wrote:
I translated and copied the below. Is this a reply from Mr. Schwartz??


Possibly, how funny.

I think that "nobody" statement was cute. Good ole translations, they're not 100% certainly.
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« Reply #1235 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:33pm »

This is a big one. Read the letter to George Noorey -

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fovnis-usa.com%2F&langpair=fr|en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
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« Reply #1236 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:37pm »

I think that the 'nobody' meant 'stranger'.

And that Mr. Schwartz was on vacation?...he wants to know what forums to look at ....


all in all his 'answer' is very unclear,

we need a better translation.
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« Reply #1237 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:41pm »

The letter on that site is from:

Jack A. Sahakian
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« Reply #1238 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:42pm »

I've been away a few days. When I last checked this thread it was in the 30's. I have 50 pages to read.

It looks to me like a lot of effort has been expended looking into the isaaccaret.com angle. Personally, and I admit I have 50 pages to read, I don't think it is connect at all. Anyone can register any unused domain.

I've been in IT for over 20 years and remember when the practice of registering domain names for profit began. People would register large corporate names before they did and then sell the name back to them, often in the tens of thousands of dollars or more.

Now a more common practice is a form of name hijacking. A great example would be whitehouse.com. It had nothing to do with our capitol, that site is whitehouse.gov, but was actually a porn site. The original whitehouse.com owner has since sold it and in controversial content is gone.

Isaac used a free hosting service and hence the address http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/

No domain registration was required. This is a fairly decent way to maintain anonymity. Of course the PTB could get info from fortunecity, but Isaac could have used false info and done so from someone else's computer or any of a bunch of other ways to remain anonymous.

My gut tells me the registrar of isaaccaret.com was taking advantage of an opportunity, and I'd bet he's registered a ton of names with the goal of profit as his motivation.

I have 50 pages to read now. I apologize if this has all already been stated. I'm going to focus my attention on the photo and documentary evidence we have. I've been rereading the PACL Q4-86 and there is alot more info there than first appears. Great stuff in there, I'll work on a report about it.

I'd also like to encourage everyone to consider non internet methods to investigate this. Not everything we need to solve this is on the internet.
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« Reply #1239 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:46pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 3:46pm, Paul wrote:
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As much as I applaud and marvel at your superior image resizing & manipulation skills, how about conducting a little research before jumping to conclusions?
(And I've resized. cropped and highlighted, "Adobe Elements" in your screen stretching picture) rolleyes

I donít mean actually investigate!! Just try reading what others have done.

Iím not saying that these are fake or real!! What I will say however is that these were originally posted at the Coast To Coast website, and a little research round about May 15th (4 or 5 days after originally posting and nearly two months back now!!) and a quick email revealed that Coast To Coast uses Adobe Elements 2.0 to resize and crop scans for their website.
on Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:07pm, Paul wrote:
Photoshop Elements is the number 1 software to digitally edit pictures add items to to pictures or design pictures.

What the obsolete Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0?
Photoshop Elements 5.0 now I believe.
The reason this was so quickly picked up on is that Elements is now up to version 5 or so with version 2 being practically obsolete.

And I canít be bothered to argue about the non-existence of the other corroborating Exif data as I know it exists apart from the images that were scanned.

And seeing as youíre the self proclaimed resident expert how precisely can Exif data be embedded or even recognized while using a flatbed scanner to convert physical images into digital ones?

Apart from perhaps writing it on the back of the photograph to be scanned grin

AND I'M A (drone) SKEPTIC...................................
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« Reply #1240 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:48pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 01:19am, kirog wrote:
Hi there... erm, about the cloaking devices and the optical illusion thing: Don't forget the NASA footage where devices seem to appear and disappear in front of ultraviolet cameras.. David Sereda stated that these things might use kind of quantum level shift to convert their matter into another state like ultraviolet, infrared or who-knows for shure.... the question is... what if a private investigator had one of these NASA cameras... isn't there the possibility that sudden UFO appearance on infrared nightshot camcorders is just the tip of the iceberg when the majority of them lurks in the ultraviolet or above?


Sorry to insert tekky stuff into blog sleuthing (truly fascinating to be on live "uncloaking"). One major research link in the microwave lens subject is advanced Fourier transfrom electronics...frequency shifting.
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« Reply #1241 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:49pm »

Have you all read this?

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=31120
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« Reply #1242 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:57pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:01am, Latitude wrote:
Hello Sickmindfraud,

I see you decided to totally ignore my point. I suggest that instead of researching my emotional reactional you should instead do a little research on the different forums and get up to speed with not only what has been done to find out if cgi was used but also determine the level of expertise of those doing the research. I think you will be quite surprised at the level of talent on these forums. But I'm thinking you already have your mind made up.


Considering the wealth of information on this board, I felt that it was worthwhile to offer the tidbits I had.

I see that you got upset at my remark.

Rest assured, if you had looked at my website, that you would find that I hold such psychology researchers in utter contempt. Psychwatch is an anti psych abuse website

I observe that you did not point me to the appropriate threads, event though these obviously are well known to you and you must have them at your finger tips

Given the wealth of data here it is understandable the mere mortals would not have this all bookmarked for the ages.

I also not that you ignored the astronomical data I supplied.

I believe I addressed some of your concerns by posting the astronomical data,

I illustrated knowledge of the time of day of the pictures by citing that date and time from the Exif code encoded in the photos.

If we trust the exif code, and the information about the location, then the astronomy says the Sun MUST be 26 degrees above the horizon. not 5 or 10 or 15

The next question is if the Object is at a (roughly) 26 degree angle to the ground. or is in nearly flat and level as in many pictures. It has to be at 26 degrees for the absence of a shadow on that side of the object.

If the object is not at about 26 degrees, then there is something wrong with the picture. that is the simple mechanical mathematical truth of it all.

All the other talk about who has a right to speak is mere noise. But that's okay.

My primary question is: what is the angle of the object in the picture?
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« Reply #1243 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:06pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:10am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Don't expect this Latitude. They are not interested in debunking with anything other then what comes easy.

Soon, if 'they' do not begin to use healthy skepticism instead with more factual statements rather than supplying website addresses that we are expected to waste time with, then further action will be taken anyway.

Consequently, don't quote that particular member Latititude since he/she has a nut to crack here for reasons other than debunking and are instead found to be gratuitously nasty!

To all members, we do not allow debunking in this forum, however, we absolutely welcome healthy skepticism. Debunking is a waste of time and a waste of forum posts and consequent pages.

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hmm, in my quotes I have supplied

1) comments on photos, with lines, etc indicating the exact point of dispute
2) information on where to find high-res copies of the photos,
3) references to astronomy software that is free to download
4) correct references to exact latitude and longitude.
5) correct references to solar angle above the horizon.
6) references to the geometry displayed in the photograph in question. including the geometry of the shadows.


I thought that all of these points were worthy of factual debate, especially since they are each subject to mathematical and scientific analysis, independent of my feelings on the subject.

These are the points that I am basing my skepticism on.

The personal comments are not even vaguely important.

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« Reply #1244 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:17pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:06pm, sickmindfraud wrote:
hmm, in my quotes I have supplied

1) comments on photos, with lines, etc indicating the exact point of dispute
2) information on where to find high-res copies of the photos,
3) references to astronomy software that is free to download
4) correct references to exact latitude and longitude.
5) correct references to solar angle above the horizon.
6) references to the geometry displayed in the photograph in question. including the geometry of the shadows.


I thought that all of these points were worthy of factual debate, especially since they are each subject to mathematical and scientific analysis, independent of my feelings on the subject.These are the points that I am basing my skepticism on.


Well let's play fair here sickmind because in my next post a foot or so beyond the one you quoted I said,

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And the other type of debunker confuses an issue and instead brings in only such things that are questionable but never speaks in a positive nature on other items that we have evidence for or are not questionable, such as a photo that nobody found a discrepancy in.

That is as well considered unhealthy skepticism. It's not necessarily what they did comment on, instead, it's what they didn't comment on that might have been factual.


So, outside of helpful websites that show us how to trip up a hoaxer, where are YOUR comments relating to the druther, or are you only here as a skeptic?

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