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« Reply #1245 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:17pm »

I am unclear on the cloaking concept.

When cloaked, is the item merely invisable or does it no longer occupy airspace??

If the former is true that would explain all those birds that seem to slam into "nothing" and drop dead..
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« Reply #1246 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:19pm »

Sorry folks, I just think that in light of everything we have, debating about a shadow (the subject of which has been argued back and forth by graphics pros on numerous threads), is a tad irrelevant. I think ATO has a different thread set up for those wishing to keep moving in that direction. When it comes right down to it, all I really needed was one photo and Shirley.

This is happening now because it's time. Once disclosure comes, we are the front lines. Why? Because as you know, not everyone is as connected and tuned into this possibility as we are. There will be questions, confusion, no doubt some fear. When something happens involving a fire that I have questions about, I go to my friend who is a firefighter. Who will the people in your circle of friends and family go to when the subject before them is UFO's? You.

The Roswell crash happened. No doubt there were many others as well. Those pieces went someplace and someone has been trying to figure them out. This is in no way a stretch intellectually or logically.

Thank you, Walter Haut. R.I.P. at last.
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« Reply #1247 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:30pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:19pm, MarkM wrote:
When it comes right down to it, all I really needed was one photo and Shirley.


Exactly! So sickman, where are your comments on those two Podcasts with Shirley and the Maxwell AFB man in Montgomery, Al. That's my point.

It should already be up your alley, considering your website. Even though it is a service, I know you are somehow tied in that field as well, I can see it in your speech.
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« Reply #1248 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:34pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:26am, Latitude wrote:
This person is a psychologist or wannabee and the name is play on words for Sigmund Freud.


As noted elsewhere, I run a site devoted to exposed abuses on psychiatry and psychology.

So good on picking up the pun in the name.

Thus my interest in UFOs comes in via the disinfo and government control and cover story angles. The government has sometimes down very strange things.

That said, I am probably a hopeful agnostic when it comes to UFOs.

Although I find comments like this informative

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Project 75 (done at Aerospace Corporation San Bernardino, 1964, Jerry Pournelle editor, Bill Dorrance Director; Aerospace San Bernardino supported Ballistic Systems Division which was headquartered at Norton) was General Schriever's pet, the technology survey that would be used to design and structure the 1975 USAF missile forces.

We took that very seriously. I cannot imagine that Wright Pat would keep anything hidden from us that could have any effect on missile technology. The companion study, Project FORECAST, was Air Systems Division's counterpart and directed by Colonel Francis X. Hale, coauthor with me and Possony of The Strategy of Technology.

The United States Air Force took its mission of winning World War III quite seriously. We worked on nuclear exchange war plans. We worked on targeting for winning the war, not merely avenging our dead. We understood that MAD was the national strategy chosen by the civilian heads of government, and we certainly worked to implement a second strike retaliation capability; but our hearts were in winning the damn war, not just killing a lot of Russians.

I cannot imagine that any SAC officers or former SAC officers knew of technologies hidden away at Wright Patterson AFB and did not betray one hint to their brother SAC officers who were intimately involved in Project 75.

One of our officers, Colonel Hale (who later went to Vandenberg to direct Blue Scout) was a SAC navigator. He had served his tour on the KC=135 group that operated at our furthest northern bases; if the balloon went up it would have been his mission to rendezvous with the B-52's coming north, refill their tanks over the Pole, and pump his own airplane dry. The KC's would have 2 minutes fuel to break away clean from the 52's, after which they were dead stick over the Arctic. That was part of the price to be paid for war.

In the name of heaven, why would any USAF officer, SAC or Systems Command or Intelligence hide significant technology from the SAC officers involved in designing and structuring the force?

Why would some SAC troop from Roswell have hidden technology information from his brother officers who were willing to fly the refueling mission (and from those willing to fly the B-52's on their death run into the USSR)?


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This is a very important point, because the hiding of such technology during the height of the cold war basically would have been quite treasonous.

Right now The USA is building what will likely be the last and final generation of manned fighters, bombers, etc. after that, future generations will be likely all drone remote control types. We suppose that the UFOs have superior technology to our own.

Yet here we are talking about bodies and dead pilots, etc. You see this in our science fiction. All the fighters in BattleStar Galactica and Star Wars, etc. are individually piloted craft. But the future is in unpiloted craft. Even with someone like Scott Balard exploring the ocean depths, visiting the Titanic, etc., now uses remote vehicles only. No need to send the human eyeball into harm's way.

So I would expect to see the same in UFOs that are real and in the past. UFO's with radical performance meet this criteria. But others do not.
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« Reply #1249 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:41pm »

on Jul 2nd, 2007, 12:55pm, castles4me wrote:
Has anyone thought of what S1 is? And the blacked out spaces around the technology required to operate the S1??

Look at section 4.2.2. the blacked out lines there could describe it as a "telepathically controlled device"



another question...... in the big basin photo, what do you all think the purpose is of the appendage in the center of the main circle, that is not visible (or not there at all) in the other drones. The long needle like thing almost looks like a longer version of the A1.


Sorry, another tekky whilst the sleuthers take on Mr. Schwartz.

Blacked out spaces...since the documents were fed to Isaac's crew from the military, the blacked spaces would hide military-sensitive functions, abilities and or investigation areas. I posted previously i suspected direct reference to undetectable surveillance...or, now, maybe space travel...the anti-grav drive has self-contained propulsion ability that functions as well in space as on planet. The open circle drones (CHAD, eg) seem to use an ionized air pusher effect, hence would be confined to planet.

Good point about control mechanism, who knows what level of advancement is possible for these ET's.

Or, not wanting to be caught out in the big lie, military blacked out how they might want to employ this tech for self-defense...against ET.
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« Reply #1250 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:43pm »

Sickmind - This game is getting very old. Tell you what - you keep your marbles and I'll keep mine. This isn't a sales convention. Take care.
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« Reply #1251 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:43pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:41pm, Farmboy wrote:
Or, not wanting to be caught out in the big lie, military blacked out how they might want to employ this tech for self-defense...against ET.

Isaac apparently contacted Earthfiles and said it was CARET who blacked out the text, like I've said before, tantamount to sabotage.
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« Reply #1252 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:44pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 1:33pm, racerxx wrote:
Well, it just keeps getting more and more interesting. Check out this advanced Ad design from Apple for their new "iGrav" device, scheduled to be released in 2025!

The future is looking more and more like the future!


Everytime I look at that picture I bust out laughing.
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« Reply #1253 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:54pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:28pm, sickmindfraud wrote:
Consider this software which will be released in the near future in a completely free form.

There are others....

For a talented individual with the correct tools, this is now in the range of a few months work. Which is reasonable for someone who was dedicated. People spend more time on things like World of Warcraft.

true story / joke

Student did this as a school project.

Went out every day to the local football field.
Brought a bag of seed with him, wore a striped shirt, carried a whistle

Blew the whistle, threw out some seed

did this every day for over a couple of months. Did it various times of the day.

Now comes Football season

Out step the officials to start the game

They blow their whistle.

Here come the birds.....

Point being, a person spent a lot of time to achieve this end result.

The Student got a A on his paper. especially since the experiment took place on the field of a rival school.


I can't help but think about last years Australian UFO Flap.........
when it came to the people in the car and the lights I knew there was something going on, no one was looking directly at it, but they were looking and screaming big time.
Nothing quite compares to the Capitola sequence of photos. If they aren't you got me, there's always Apollo 20, lol.
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« Reply #1254 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:03pm »

[quote author=jugement ]scientist themselves says this planet is supose to destruct it self by 2012 so also by the mayans and other civilazations, so now could it be tech that is servaying by the ets preparing planet earth for replenishing earth. wink [/quote]

I'm glad you supplied the smiley.

Real scientists laugh at the 2012 prediction stuff.

Just look up a lot of this stuff and the connection of 2012 to the Pleiades.

Then check out the actual location of the Pleiades in the sky, and the actual angles.

The early predictors sad that 2012 was the year that the Pleiades were supposed to be directly opposite the galactic center as seen from Earth.

Except that the Pleiades never have and never will be directly opposite the galactic center as seen from Earth. And, as a group, they are moving in totally the wrong direction.

More recent stuff on 2012 has been avoiding the Pleiades connection for some reason. Can't Imagine Why ;-)


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« Reply #1255 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:04pm »

on Jul 2nd, 2007, 11:38am, MarkM wrote:
I was asked today, outside of this board, what my take on this was. Here's my reply:

Deep breath. I'm split, to be honest. The side of me that needs to protect itself from being made a fool wants to leave at least enough wiggle room to crawl through should this be proven conclusively as a hoax.

this is right on the $ re my (now former) fears. I shared MarkM's comments re personal (ego) safety. I now feel a bit of pride in having contributed my ounce of heated air.

I have decided to "wing it" re contributing...let my professional backghround lead where it wants to go...(added: with plausibility as the objective). As the result, I have no fear as i walk thru this valley...and if there has been a hoax (which i somehow feel will never! conclusively be proved) so be it..it has been great professional fun listening to all the other expertise areas go about their angle of approach on Drones. If there is confirmation...then what a thrill. anyway I am not spending my spare time drinking or gambling, or whatever.

For instance, my eyes have been opened to crop circles not because of the resemblances of symbols but technically crop circles ae now so 'plausible', although I regret being able to see it , i was so prejudiced against crop circles before. But now with hearing about heat'popped' wheat seeds...there are visions of drones humming busily at midnight over peaceful wheatfields all over the globe impressing pictures of..and for what..? But there they are. Their little focused microwave beams (and whatever other fields) exerting presure and heat...and viola another message.

The human r&D projects perfecting (adapting from ET) beams able to focus down to half inch tolerances...close enough to make nice and lean crop circle lines. BTW, i always believed crop circles were man made but couldn't figure out how a few stumbling, half-blind-in-the-daylight old men with boards strapped on their feet could make such perfect (and complicated) designs in a few hours overnight, meaning in the dark without lights or giving a clue they were around.
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« Reply #1256 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:05pm »

I spent all day trying to link Lawyer Schwartz to Amalgamated Schwartz and no luck. A friend has however provided me with the dns info for Amalgamated Schwartz...

Registrant Contact:
amalgamated schwartz
todd schwartz (schwartz@spiritone.com)
+1.5032450557
Fax: 555-555-5555
11721 sw 41st
portland, Oregon 97219-7462
US

A quick google mapping has those two addresses being only 4.7 miles away.

Still ZERO definitive evidence though that those two guys are the same person sad
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« Reply #1257 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:08pm »

Anyone followed through on the FBI beginning to release its ufo files?
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« Reply #1258 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:11pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:05pm, pvtjoker75 wrote:
I spent all day trying to link Lawyer Schwartz to Amalgamated Schwartz and no luck. A friend has however provided me with the dns info for Amalgamated Schwartz...

Registrant Contact:
amalgamated schwartz
todd schwartz (schwartz@spiritone.com)
+1.5032450557
Fax: 555-555-5555
11721 sw 41st
portland, Oregon 97219-7462
US

A quick google mapping has those two addresses being only 4.7 miles away.

Still ZERO definitive evidence though that those two guys are the same person sad


Then the only association we have thus far is that they live and/or work approximately 7 miles apart from one another. I hope we can put this one to bed. We really only need scholastic info on Todd Schwartz the author and we're done on this one.

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« Reply #1259 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:12pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:33pm, MarkM wrote:
This is a big one. Read the letter to George Noorey -

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fovnis-usa.com%2F&langpair=fr|en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools


Wow, Mark and Atrueoriginal... they are quoting you two on the French UFO site! COOL!!! lol hmmm. I didn't see them quote me, I better think of something intelligent to say smiley
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