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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #1260 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:13pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:17pm, AgentM wrote:
I am unclear on the cloaking concept.

When cloaked, is the item merely invisable or does it no longer occupy airspace??

If the former is true that would explain all those birds that seem to slam into "nothing" and drop dead..


Light is merely bent around the device. It's still there physically. BIRDS!!
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« Reply #1261 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:15pm »

These translators suck! Well I guess we need to check out this guy now. Is he genuine or not?

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Wow, Mark and Atrueoriginal... they are quoting you two on the French UFO site! COOL!!! lol hmmm. I didn't see them quote me, I better think of something intelligent to say


I say we sue for recognition!
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« Reply #1262 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:16pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 3:57pm, MarkM wrote:
Noooooo.... it indicates that I'm looking at a screen shot from your desktop. Amazing that all of the pros never thought to check that. Here you clicked on one tab and - viola!!! Fake! I'm still searching for that function in my version of Photoshop.


Microsoft Photo Info is a new software add-in for Microsoft Windows that allows photographers to add, change and delete common "metadata" properties for digital photographs from inside Windows Explorer. It also provides enhanced "hover tips" and additional sort properties for digital photographs in Explorer (in Details view).

This will do the job nicely. Photoshop has a File Info feature in the file menu in earlier versions, but it doesn't supply all of the needed data. this might have changed with later versions

Many image processing software destroys this metadata when saving such files, so depending on what you are using, resizing the file for use on the web will not preserve the original metadata, such as date, exposure info, etc. And not all cameras supply this either.

THIS MEANS that merely because the photo says PhotoElements or PhotoShop or whatever, this is not sufficient proof to disprove or debunk the photo in question. it is not good enough proof at all.

You have to examine the internal elements of the picture as well.
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« Reply #1263 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:17pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:11pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Then the only association we have thus far is that they live and/or work approximately 7 miles apart from one another. I hope we can put this one to bed. We really only need scholastic info on Todd Schwartz the author and we're done on this one.

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I agree. And i'm guessing this might be it...

The lawyer:
"Mr. Schwartz graduated with honors from Willamette University. He earned his law degree at the University of Oregon School of Law"

Source: http://www.csb-llc.com/attorney.php

The writer:
Todd Schwartz (schwartz@spiritone.com) has written deft profiles of many University alumni, among them brain scientist Mike Merzenich '64, the courtly grocer Gene Wizer '60, master nurse Joan Moye '73, surfing legend and inventor Jack O'Neill '49, and music-education visionaries Charles Lewis '94 and Michelle Boss Barba '00.
EDIT: He's an alumni of the University of Portland

Source: http://www.up.edu/portlandmag/2005_summer/ma/ma2.htm
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« Reply #1264 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:17pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:12pm, castles4me wrote:
Wow, Mark and Atrueoriginal... they are quoting you two on the French UFO site! COOL!!! lol hmmm. I didn't see them quote me, I better think of something intelligent to say smiley


Nah, they only pick the simple posts that are easy to translate wink!
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« Reply #1265 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:18pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:04pm, Farmboy wrote:
this is right on the $ re my (now former) fears. I shared MarkM's comments re personal (ego) safety. I now feel a bit of pride in having contributed my ounce of heated air.I have decided to "wing it" re contributing...let my professional backghround lead where it wants to go. As the result, I have no fear as i walk thru this valley...and if there has been a hoax (which i somehow feel will never! conclusively be proved) so be it..it has been great professional fun listening to all the other expertise areas go about their angle of approach on Drones..


Farmboy, as long as you make attempts to insure us that information is the truth or false, you will not wear those "eat crow" pains. And even if you do, they subside and eventually disappear. lol

Y'all are so concerned with your reputations.

Let me assure you that IF the Isaac thingy is absolutely, positively found to be a hoax, I have my finger on the delete button and I am not one to waste space in the forum.

In other words, the title of the thread would be changed, the drone info would remain and Isaac info would be gone for all time and nobody would ever see your name associated with Isaac.

So say what you're thinking and stop worrying about it!

LOL - NO FEAR! ............. ROFLMBO!

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« Reply #1266 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:22pm »

As a newbie on here, I am curious about something: Is THIS the biggest and longest thread/discussion ever to occur on here? Has anything else in the casebook's history ever excited this much of a response. Because of my sighting last summer, this is the first year I have given any serious thought to the UFO phenomenon. And I came to this board JUST as the Isaac thing hit. So I have no prior experience with the level of excitement generated by any previous episodes.
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« Reply #1267 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:25pm »

I don't remember anything this big. There was that frozen creature in Siberia but that was a hoax and didn't catch fire like this. What do you think ATO?
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« Reply #1268 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:26pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:22pm, starsigndavid wrote:
As a newbie on here, I am curious about something: Is THIS the biggest and longest thread/discussion ever to occur on here? .


Absolutely. Our views keep defaulting back to zero for some unknown reason that Conforums cannot figure out, but we're at 40,109 views at this very moment and the thread started here.
since « Thread started on: Jun 26th, 2007, 8:33pm »

Yeah, that's a record for one week's timeframe for views and posts both - by far.

Other forums are experience the same high volume.
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« Reply #1269 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:28pm »

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on Today at 4:11pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:Then the only association we have thus far is that they live and/or work approximately 7 miles apart from one another. I hope we can put this one to bed. We really only need scholastic info on Todd Schwartz the author and we're done on this one.

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I agree. And i'm guessing this might be it...

The lawyer:
"Mr. Schwartz graduated with honors from Willamette University. He earned his law degree at the University of Oregon School of Law"

Source: http://www.csb-llc.com/attorney.php

The writer:
Todd Schwartz (schwartz@spiritone.com) has written deft profiles of many University alumni, among them brain scientist Mike Merzenich '64, the courtly grocer Gene Wizer '60, master nurse Joan Moye '73, surfing legend and inventor Jack O'Neill '49, and music-education visionaries Charles Lewis '94 and Michelle Boss Barba '00.
EDIT: He's an alumni of the University of Portland

Source: http://www.up.edu/portlandmag/2005_summer/ma/ma2.htm
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Sort of an odd coincidence but that's what it looks like.

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« Reply #1270 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:28pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 4:57pm, sickmindfraud wrote:
My primary question is: what is the angle of the object in the picture?


Excuse me but I'm a little behind here.
If you're referring to the Capitola Craft in the photo sequence the thing is never really level. The longest arm ( can't call it a Stabilizer as I have seen elsewhere, it surely can't rely on aerodynamics ) is slightly angled downward as it approaches the pole.
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« Reply #1271 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:29pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 1:42pm, DrDil wrote:
Oregon Lawyer (Spring 2004)
(The magazine for University of Oregon School of Law alumni and friends)

PDF Page 6 middle, right hand side
http://www.law.uoregon.edu/alumni/ol/OLspring2004.pdf

Todd E. Schwartz ’91 and partner
John T. Carr have formed Carr
& Schwartz. They specialize in
regulatory and compliance matters
facing SEC and state-based registered
investment advisory firms.
Schwartz has served as corporate
counsel for Inteliant Corp. and as
an administrative law judge for the
Oregon employment department.

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Portland Area Law Firms

http://www.law.uoregon.edu/career/files/PortlandAreaLawFirms.pdf

(Page 23)

Carr & Schwartz LLP SIZE OF FIRM: VS
155 B Street, Suite 240/P.O. Box 249
Lake Oswego, OR 97034 PRACTICE AREAS:
Securities, Legal Advice
Investment Advisors
OFFICE PHONE: (503) 635-5244
OFFICE FAX: (503) 635-2955
WEBSITE: www.carr-schwartz.com
CONTACT: John Carr, Attorney
ALTERNATE OFFICES: Not Applicable

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INVESTMENT NEWS - Article wrote by Todd E. Schwartz

http://www.investmentnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070226/FREE/70222024/1011

(BIO= Todd E. Schwartz is a member of the Washington-based Wealth Advisor Institute and a securities attorney with Carr Schwartz Butterfield LLC in Lake Oswego, Ore.)

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A, “Mr. Isaac” & “Mr. Todd E. Schwartz” are both Members of, "Lawyers Club of Atlanta" <---Too Easy? grin grin

http://www.lawyersclubofatlanta.org/mains.htm

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Todd E. Schwartz - Profile (Statelawyers)

http://texas.statelawyers.com/Lawyer/Profile.cfm/AttorneyID:18177

Attorney:

Todd E. Schwartz
Address: Suite 240
155 B Avenue
Lake Oswego, Oregon 97034
Phone(s): (503) 635-5244
Areas of Practice:
Business & Commercial
Business Organizations
Contracts
Estate Planning
Franchise Law
Immigration & Naturalization Law
Motor Vehicle Accidents
Native American Law
Paternity
Personal Injury
Probate Law
Securities Law
Wills

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There is another Todd E. Schwartz

http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Schwartz_Todd_1165048557.aspx

Memberships: Mr. Schwartz is a member of the state bars of Georgia, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. He is currently active in the American Bar Association. Atlanta Bar Association, Defense Research Institute and Georgia Defense Lawyers Association.
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« Reply #1272 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:29pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:25pm, hjdelight wrote:
I don't remember anything this big. There was that frozen creature in Siberia but that was a hoax and didn't catch fire like this. What do you think ATO?


You were here long before me Hj. You tell me. BJ archived already about two years of forum that aren't here anymore and I don't know what they look like.

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« Reply #1273 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:30pm »

Paul......as far as you saying that since that drone image was saved in Photoshop Elements II meaning it was fake....take a step back ok? You seem to be very into photoshop etc, and think that anyone in the right mind would use elements 2 for this.....well, I know for a fact that Elements 2 was standard image software on many MANY computers around the tim eit was released. COMPAQ, HP, and DELL. It was on my compaq when I bought it, and my gf's DELL. Couldn't it be possible that someone who is not so computer savvy, and likes to take pictures never botherred to put on some new photo editing software?

MOVING ON.....still no responce from the Disclosure Project people.

Lets say for some reason this/these Todd Shwartz's do know Isaac. They are both lawyers, and one used to be a judge? IF they know about him, he chose them specifically for their experience and if the gov did come after him, they would back him up. just a thought.

That Shirley call was pretty convincing. I am getting so tired of watching these testimonies by people from the Disclosure Project......how many are there? I'll keep you guys posted.
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« Reply #1274 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:31pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:05pm, pvtjoker75 wrote:
I spent all day trying to link Lawyer Schwartz to Amalgamated Schwartz and no luck. A friend has however provided me with the dns info for Amalgamated Schwartz...

Registrant Contact:
amalgamated schwartz
todd schwartz (schwartz@spiritone.com)
+1.5032450557
Fax: 555-555-5555
11721 sw 41st
portland, Oregon 97219-7462
US

A quick google mapping has those two addresses being only 4.7 miles away.

Still ZERO definitive evidence though that those two guys are the same person sad


And they have the same internet provider wink
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