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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #1290 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 7:10pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 5:17pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Well let's play fair here sickmind because in my next post a foot or so beyond the one you quoted I said,

So, outside of helpful websites that show us how to trip up a hoaxer, where are YOUR comments relating to the druther, or are you only here as a skeptic?



well regrading the capitola photo I said:

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Thank you for your reply

True, the exif Data for the data shows it taken at about 5:45pm on May 16th 2007

Using a program such as Stellarium from Stellarium.org , StarCalc, or any other similar astronomy sky program, we are able to inspect the position of the the sun at that time. at Capitola, California = Latitude: 36.98016 / Longitude: -121.93107

For that time and date, the Sun was slightly more than 26 degrees above the Horizon. Anyone can verify this using freely available astronomical software.

That matches the shadow from the cross arms at the top of the telephone pole. The object does not look tilted 25 or 26 degrees. it looks rather level and flat, although it is hard to judge, and I could be wrong.

The shadow on the main body of the pole is solid, but it is difficult to judge the angle. by the above mathematics, and the Exif data from the Original photos, that angle MUST be 26 degrees, the same angle as the sun. Does it look like 26 degrees to you?

Therefore the better measure is the shadow from the cross bar.

As long as I didn't screw up something like daylight savings time (which I do not think I did) then the mathematics is correct.

The Sun IS at about 26 degrees above the horizon for that date and time and place.


and that was part of a conversion I started regarding the geometry of the shadows in the photo of the Object with the telephone lines. In other words I am talking about the facts of the photo as it is given and presented

I used a high-rez photo, which is where I got the date time data. I put text on the photo illustrating my points, back on page 59 of this thread.

Several others in the thread later found similar high rez copies and came to the same conclusion regarding the electrical wire that I had, which is that the wire is legit, and not an accident of Photoshop. This would be against myself if I was a devoted skeptic, no?

In other words I am willing to follow the evidence, regardless of it disproves case one or case two.

With videos like this, done in the mere weeks since this all came out, it is really difficult to maintain a positive attitude on this.

Mind you, I have no religious devotion to this, for or against. The facts take us where they will.

What are the facts? I have some broad knowledge in science and phtography, and so sometimes I will put together information from multiple areas to sort out what is going on.

For eaxmple, I have no clue whatsoever what to think about the mexico witch /UFO flap. That is truly weird. But I am not going to freak about it either. I have to let it digest for a while.

Regarding the Isaac information I came across this item

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Guys and gals...just a quick technology note on the items that are on that webpage...specifically the scanned ones.

1) The paper/research report that he stole and scanned in is dated 1986. Assuming the government is using the typical 'lowest bidder' paper to print with, this would not have been archival paper, and these copies would have yellowed and faded. Also, if he smuggled them out under his shirt and tucked in his pants...where are the fold lines that would have been seen on a scanned image?

2) In 1986, Microsoft had just released Windows 1.0. EGA, bare-bones operating systems. Macintosh had just released the Macintosh Plus, still with a black and white screen and VERY basic tools.

3) Printer-wise, the peak of technology in 1986 was the HP Laserjet and the Apple Laserwriter. Both of these items in 1986 were still utilizing Postscript. Truetype didn't hit until 1991. Vector graphics were still well in their infancy.

4) Your choices for desktop publishing were pretty limited in 1986. You had Notepad and Write for Windows, and Aldus Pagemaker for Mac.

Now...look through the 'report' that he stole. Nothing is faded, the "copies" are clear. Fonts are not Postscript...they look TrueType. Look at the page number locations...it looks as if these pages were printed front/back...however you can see NOTHING of the other side of the page through the scan, nor the copy machine process. Paper wasn't near the quality then than it is now...and DEFINITELY not if it was government-used.

The pictures, the text quality, the formatting, the graphics...all of which would have been supremely difficult, if not impossible, to do in 1986.

I don't buy it.


While I could clean up a scan to make it more readable, this can be a lot of work.

I might add that the drawings would have had to be done originally by hand, as a blue print, or via photo projection, so the details are too good for the generation of technology we had then.

This is a delicate point to grasp if you are not familiar with how things were done before the advent of cheap and plentiful computer power. Typesetting something to that quality was expensive. It would have likely just be typewritten if it was for limited production and distribution.
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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #1291 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 7:13pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:33pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
So in essence, you're saying that this part here in orange is new information that we need to check out?

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No, it's just all the time searching for original Todd E. Schwartz and this one kept popping up, under a lot of the same specific references, i.e. "There is another Todd E. Schwartz" I probably shouldn't have included it, my bad. undecided
Al the others references are definitely the right ones though.
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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #1292 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 7:13pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:37pm, pvtjoker75 wrote:
I personally found out about this whole thing on another forum (who's name i can not mention), but suffice it to say it's in the top 5 boards in the world i think. That's neither here nor there, the fact is a LOT more people than you think now about this and are talking about it


If it's the same site I went to they do mention MarkM and UFOCasebook........oh, the other one....
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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #1293 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 7:21pm »

Same?

http://www.patentstorm.us/inventors/Jack_A__Sahakian-2306105.html
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« Reply #1294 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 7:30pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 7:21pm, MarkM wrote:
Same?

http://www.patentstorm.us/inventors/Jack_A__Sahakian-2306105.html


More then likely. He's probably got a few of those under his belt considering that he's a contractor. Most do, that's how they get the contracts.
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« Reply #1295 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 7:54pm »

Must read From Earthfiles

Star Wars Physicist Edward Teller’s classified documents warning President Reagan of ET enemy and the recommendation of the use of alien technology to create Remotely Piloted Vehicles (RPVs) using “circular airfoil design”

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1268&category=Environment part 1 in its entirety

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1269&category=Environment (second half of above report – you have to read this document if you haven’t already includes secret documents from Edward Teller to President Reagan describing threat from space and the need for clandestine technology research at the onset of Star Wars)

If you read the documents there from Edward Teller, he mentions the technology that they received, or things that they "learned" from 1939 and 1947 (this is most likely corroborates the Cordell Hull story of the aliens and ufo he saw in the basement of the US capital in 1939) and of course, we all know what 1947 was.

I repeat (and I promise this is last time I post this lol): IMHO -- Isaac is for real, the alien technology is for real. US has been re-creating it for STARWARS defense against the "enemy" see documents in links. Star Wars and CARET began near same time. Some of the drones could actually be the alien drones, some could be US recreations. Either way... aliens are real, US has been testing their technology, and I am sure they are REALLY wondering why the cloaking device keeps being deactivated... this is blowing their secret and basically (and very scarily) uncovering and infiltrating their means of star wars defense. This should concern us.


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« Reply #1296 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:01pm »

The quarterly Report that was submitted by Isaac looks EXACTLY like the things I was having typeset in the 1980s.

Even the hokey type on the Title page is typical of that era.

The font used for the bodycopy is also very typical of that era.

I say the whole 1986 Report is 100% authentic.





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« Reply #1297 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:07pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:01pm, urantia606 wrote:
The quarterly Report that was submitted by Isaac looks EXACTLY like the things I was having typeset in the 1980s.

Even the hokey type on the Title page is typical of that era.

The font used for the bodycopy is also very typical of that era.

I say the whole 1986 Report is 100% authentic.


I agree it looks totally 1980's
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« Reply #1298 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:10pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 7:10pm, sickmindfraud wrote:
Regarding the Isaac information I came across this item


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Now...look through the 'report' that he stole. Nothing is faded, the "copies" are clear. Fonts are not Postscript...they look TrueType. Look at the page number locations...it looks as if these pages were printed front/back...however you can see NOTHING of the other side of the page through the scan, nor the copy machine process. Paper wasn't near the quality then than it is now...and DEFINITELY not if it was government-used.


on Jul 3rd, 2007, 7:10pm, sickmindfraud wrote:
Regarding the Isaac information I came across this itemWhile I could clean up a scan to make it more readable, this can be a lot of work.

I might add that the drawings would have had to be done originally by hand, as a blue print, or via photo projection, so the details are too good for the generation of technology we had then.

This is a delicate point to grasp if you are not familiar with how things were done before the advent of cheap and plentiful computer power. Typesetting something to that quality was expensive. It would have likely just be typewritten if it was for limited production and distribution.


Stated in a very early post in this thread I mentioned that the report appeared to be type written copy and not necessarily computer generated (even though it could be) and that the typewriter would have been an IBM Selectric or IBM Executive due to not only the fact that the government used such but due primarily to the font, which was standard issue for both typewriters in the early 80's.

Even though IBM made many accessory globes available (as an option) for both typewriters, the stock globe's font was used on Isaac's report. I used a Selectric in many jobs and I owned an Executive and both only came with one globe that had the same font that was on Isaac's report.

Desktop publishers did create the same font as well, which led us to a block wall. No answers will be found there unless we have the original documents.


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« Reply #1299 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:17pm »

Geeeez! I can't keep up!

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More then likely. He's probably got a few of those under his belt considering that he's a contractor. Most do, that's how they get the contracts.


I think he is supposed to be a Subcontract Manager so he's not a contractor. I found that patent also. Who knows? That name is sort of common surprisingly.

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« Reply #1300 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:18pm »

Just got in from work and got caught up. To the photoshop accusations. Once again, this topic is very old. Where were you two months ago? Any way that suspicion was laid to rest long ago. So long if fact that I can barely remember the outcome but I believe it was Lex the C2C webmaster who resized the photos with photoshop upon receiving them from Chad to fit on the website properly.

I have a question about the "Search for the Swartz". Sounds like a line from a Spaceballs sequel. cheesy

Why are we going after this guy? I think we should not do this. When Isaac is ready to come forward again, he will. We can't squeeze the info out of him. We will only piss him off and make him retreat.
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« Reply #1301 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:18pm »

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"let's play fair here sickmind"

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« Reply #1302 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:24pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 7:30pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
More then likely. He's probably got a few of those under his belt considering that he's a contractor. Most do, that's how they get the contracts.


Guess is this person was(is?) a Gore associate stationed at company headquarters...product development...knows about coax cable properties...and fields. Suggesting an electrical engineering background/familiarity.
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« Reply #1303 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:29pm »

Star Wars Physicist Edward Teller’s classified documents warning President Reagan of ET enemy and the recommendation of the use of alien technology to create Remotely Piloted Vehicles (RPVs) using “circular airfoil design”

June 15, 2007 Albuquerque, New Mexico - The following alleged government document is reprinted in full. Originally leaked to Bob and Ryan Wood for their Majestic-12 documents project at majesticdocuments.com.

The document is entitled “Edward Teller’s Pitch to President Reagan for SDI" (Strategic Defense Initiative). The date is July 2, a year or two after Ronald Reagan became president in January 1981.

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Editor's Note: The Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) was proposed by U.S. President Ronald Reagan on March 23, 1983, to use ground-based and space-based systems to protect the United States from attack by strategic nuclear ballistic missiles. The initiative focused on strategic defense rather than the prior strategic offense doctrine of mutual assured destruction (MAD).

The research and technologies of SDI paved the way for some anti-ballistic missile systems of today. The Strategic Defense Initiative Organization (SDIO) was set up in 1984 within the United States Department of Defense for the Strategic Defense Initiative. It gained the popular name "Star Wars" after the title of the 1977 George Lucas feature film, the first in a series. Under the administration of President Bill Clinton in 1993, SDI was changed to the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization (BMDO) and its emphasis was shifted from national missile defense to theater missile defense; from global to regional coverage. BMDO was later renamed Missile Defense Agency (MDA).

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« Reply #1304 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:35pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:17pm, hjdelight wrote:
Geeeez! I can't keep up!

ATO wrote

I think he is supposed to be a Subcontract Manager so he's not a contractor. I found that patent also. Who knows? That name is sort of common surprisingly.

HJ


Technicalities are going to be in my dreams tonight and I'm going to die from them in my sleep. lol

Okay, Subcontractor.

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