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« Reply #1320 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:13pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:00pm, syn wrote:
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You know you're working in a secret installation on a secret project however, before or when you left your job, you removed a few papers and pictures as novelties proving the fact, if need be, that you had something in your possession that is basically top secret information. Ewww, how cool.


[quote]There's where you said that ATO. Your post's in this thread have thus far been amazing you just come across as somewhat of a perfectionist so I'm attempting to correctyou on a common misconception especially with conspiracy theorists.


I wrote my sentence based off of Isaac's comments about his secret project

Isaac said.....
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But things didn’t go as smoothly when it came to matters like access to classified information. They were exposing what is probably their single biggest secret to a group of people who had never even been through basic training and it was obvious that the gravity of this decision was never far from their minds. We started the program with a small set of extra-terrestrial artifacts along with fairly elaborate briefings on each as well as access to a modest amount of what research had already been completed.


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What I meant by it would not be Top Secret (in any way, I can't stress that enough) is that it would be under a sensitivity classification above Top Secret that only very specific individuals have access to or know the codename for this higher classification's name.


I agree, it would be something more then Top Secret.

I always read everything before I post. It keeps me from embarrasing myself.
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« Reply #1321 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:15pm »

Brendan Burton, Admin of forum OpenMinds Forum was the one who got the letter from Jack Sahakian. It was in response to the article in the American Chronicle. In reading the intro to the actual letter on the French site, it looks as though they know one another. Brendan could no doubt shine more light on this.

http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=cali1&action=display&thread=1183491253
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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #1322 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:21pm »

markm I wrote somthing so simaler to what you wrote today that i left somthing out we are only aloud to say so much we are controled by et as we call them, our goverment and the best scientist on the planet cant make the same exact ship or craft or read their writings or symbols that I sujest sends us in circles. nothing hapens before time and when it hapens it is not only on time yet it is in time. you get me . cool
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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #1323 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:31pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:12pm, castles4me wrote:
Where did you come up with this ATO.... sounds like it could have been the CARET cover... or just some company similar.


Sounds like where the parts might be coming from that were trickling over to Isaac.

Lots and lots of pages in that Googled item of (+x yx7+ ). Tons of pages. A small example is at the bottom of the post. starbase.jpl.nasa.gov/(1990 to 2004). Statistical data on planets, etc.

Since Clementine, SMART-1 did much more since. Or rather did already because SMART1 crashed on the moon some time ago. SMART-1 is within the European Space Agency (ESA). Look at it sometime. Many posts in here when SMART1 was up there.

SMART1 is one of my favorite subjects.

http://www.esa.int/esaSC/120371_index_0_m.html

This is a sample of what was in the Googled >>> (+x yx7+ ).
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DATA_SET_COLLECTION_DESC = "This entity is a collection of selected
Earth-based radar data of Venus, the Moon, Mercury, and Mars, Pioneer
Venus radar data, airborne radar images of Earth, and line of sight
acceleration data derived from tracking the Pioneer Venus Orbiter and
Viking Orbiter 2. Included are 12.6 centimeter wavelength Arecibo Venus
radar images, 12.6 to 12.9 cm Goldstone Venus radar images and altimetry
data, together with altimetry, brightness temperature, Fresnel

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« Reply #1324 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:35pm »


Better yet, I just realized that some aren't picking something up that is cruicial here. Look at the yellow font.

President Ronald Reagan awarded physicist Edward Teller, Ph.D.,
the National Medal of Science in 1983.

Image courtesy Lawrence Livermore Laboratory.


If the humans are reverse engineering alien drones, were or are they doing it here in Livermore, California. Livermore is 41 miles from Saratoga, California - hence Big Basin.

Look at the big chunk of pie that the DoD gets. Click the following address.

http://www.llnl.gov/llnl/about/Funding_Pie_05.pdf

And, this is what Livermore was doing in the 1980's.

http://www.llnl.gov/timeline/80s.html

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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #1325 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:38pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 6:46pm, LangLee wrote:
Not actually destruction 2012, but change.
Our Sun will align with the center of our Galaxy, no one knows if any forces will be involved but there could be changes, like the Earth tilting of 23 degrees to.......?
As far as Scientists laughing.........I mean what gives ? Other ancient civilizations saw this coming and our's just found out, are they laughing at their own arrogance and ineptitude ? How dare they laugh when just about every month they find out something they thought impossible is happening in Space. Just look at some recent discoveries and revisited ones like the hexagon on Saturn.
Who laughing at who ?


The specific alignment is that of the point of Earth's Winter solstice with the location of the apparent location of the Galactic center. This alignment has no significance any other planet or solar system. It is an Earth Alignment only.

The location of the galactic center is in the Constellation of Sagittarius, which is in the astrological sign of Capricorn.

Astronomers attach no specific significance to such an alignment.

Currently such alignments are changing at the rate of about 50.3 seconds of arc per year or 1 degree every 71.6 years. Such a change would require over 30 years to cross something like the Face of the Full Moon.

Also, while the galactic center is close to the Ecliptic, (the path of the planets and the Solstice point) it is NOT perfectly aligned with it, being misaligned and separated from this path to the south by a distance of over 4 degrees. This is a separation of 8 full moons in the sky. It is not a precision alignment. It is good enough for common fortune telling, but not for the alignment of the ages. Sorry.

Therefore I am saying the this whole alignment business is simply not good enough

As for an example of an alignment that would possible an event of real significance check out this excellent article on the alignment of Venus and Jupiter in the year 3 bc.

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On August 12, 3 BC, Jupiter and Venus came into close conjunction just before sunrise, coming within 4.2 minutes from each other as viewed from earth, and appearing as a very bright morning star. This conjunction took place in the constellation Cancer, the “end” sign of the Zodiac. Ten months later, on June 17 2BC, Venus and Jupiter joined again, this time in the constellation Leo. The two planets were at best 6” (arc seconds) apart; some calculations indicate that they actually overlapped each other.

In both cases they would have appeared as a single star, a single object, brilliant in the sky.

Now what cosmic event is tide in with this? The article is about the Christmas star, so I leave you to read the whole article to find out the final punch line. It's a little different than you might think.

But these are the quality of alignments that make sense in terms of cosmic events, if you are going to walk down that path.

Off by the distance of 8 full moons? Don't even bother me waking me in the morning..... any effect we would feel then we are already feeling now, and have been probably been feeling, on an increasing basis for a few hundred years ...

Something going poof in 2012? sorry, not anything that isn't already plainly in progress right now.
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« Reply #1326 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:38pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 9:58pm, MarkM wrote:
Whatever "it" is, it's connected to ET. No subject holds me more transfixed or brings out more intense emotion, than this. There is much more to my personal story than I am comfortable sharing here, but it seems important to say that [b]fear is something we should take great care not to feed.


Mark, I hope you don't think that I was trying to incite fear by posting that we need to be concerned about what is happening..... (I realize the "fear" in the government documents could be blown out of proportion, but, then again... they do know more than we know!!) what is bothering me is all of the pety posts that are splitting hairs over the most minute of articles and subjects of debate. I think we need to step back and realize the bigger picture and the huge implications of what this is and what it means if it is uncovered. It's mind boggling shocked
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« Reply #1327 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:42pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:35pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Better yet, I just realized that some aren't picking something up that is cruicial here. Look at the yellow font.

President Ronald Reagan awarded physicist Edward Teller, Ph.D.,
the National Medal of Science in 1983.

Image courtesy Lawrence Livermore Laboratory.



LOL sorry ATO, I didn't even see that before... DOH! I totally missed that when I read over all that, (AND posted it too!!) My "bad" my "bad"
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« Reply #1328 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:45pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:18pm, Isaw1again wrote:
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"let's play fair here sickmind"

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agreed

It stops all these people asking if I'm crazy

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« Reply #1329 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:46pm »

My question is this: Isaac says that the fake company building that they were using as a front had a fake name and logo(I'm assuming visible to the street, as there would be no need to have a fake name and logo on the inside)
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From the street, all you could see was what appeared to be a normal parking lot with a gate and a guard booth, and a 1-story building inside with a fictitious name and logo.

Why would they use a fake name and logo visible on the street? It would be simple for a civilian driving by to see the sign, look up the company name, try to look it up online, realize it's a fake company, then make a huge public deal out of something that could have been easily avoided by simply not having a sign or logo at all. Plenty of businesses with wearhouses do not have logos on the outside of buildings they own/use so this would not raise suspicion.

The only thing I can think of is that the name and logo were a front for the people they probably hired as top floor workers. These were the people who worked as the searchers at the initial security checkpoint aswell as those whom maintained the grounds, stocked the soda machine on the top floor, etc. They obviously had no need to know that this was a DoD front so they may have been the reason to necessitate a false name and logo.
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« Reply #1330 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:48pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 9:28pm, urantia606 wrote:
Starsigndavid has posted the BOMBSHELL letter from Teller to President Reagan.
Especially page4...second paragraph where Teller talks about:"An ingenious NEW circular airfoil design......a SINGLE wing......single wing as well .....pivoting at it's center......wing is at right angles to the plane at take off and landing... the focus of INTENSE development of which I have personal knowledge..etc."
This is exactly what we see in the skies this summer!
EXACTLY!PS: ORIGINAL, do not be confused...just read what I just posted above!This letter is the Smoking Gun.


Ahhhh comprende - thx

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« Reply #1331 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:52pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:42pm, castles4me wrote:
LOL sorry ATO, I didn't even see that before... DOH! I totally missed that when I read over all that, (AND posted it too!!) My "bad" my "bad"


Oh yeah, and like I'm caught up. lol I read two pages and post accordingly. By the time I'm done with that, four more pages have cropped up. lol

I'm walking backwards.

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« Reply #1332 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:55pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:46pm, syn wrote:
My question is this: Isaac says that the fake company building that they were using as a front had a fake name and logo(I'm assuming visible to the street, as there would be no need to have a fake name and logo on the inside)

Why would they use a fake name and logo visible on the street? It would be simple for a civilian driving by to see the sign, look up the company name, try to look it up online, realize it's a fake company, then make a huge public deal out of something that could have been easily avoided by simply not having a sign or logo at all. Plenty of businesses with wearhouses do not have logos on the outside of buildings they own/use so this would not raise suspicion.

The only thing I can think of is that the name and logo were a front for the people they probably hired as top floor workers. These were the people who worked as the searchers at the initial security checkpoint aswell as those whom maintained the grounds, stocked the soda machine on the top floor, etc. They obviously had no need to know that this was a DoD front so they may have been the reason to necessitate a false name and logo.


Does any of that matter. We passed on it because it is very probably. As a matter of fact, another government employee said that he had worked in a complex that was out in the open too.

Consider the times, 1980's we were still happy, foot loose and fancy free, Reagan was president, we had too much of thie >> $$$ all the way around. The Internet barely existed so we all had lives. lol There were no conspiracy theories. lol - Ok, gotta go, I'm laughing too hard because it's all too true. Oh gosh!

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« Reply #1333 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:56pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 8:10pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Stated in a very early post in this thread I mentioned that the report appeared to be type written copy and not necessarily computer generated (even though it could be) and that the typewriter would have been an IBM Selectric or IBM Executive due to not only the fact that the government used such but due primarily to the font, which was standard issue for both typewriters in the early 80's.

Even though IBM made many accessory globes available (as an option) for both typewriters, the stock globe's font was used on Isaac's report. I used a Selectric in many jobs and I owned an Executive and both only came with one globe that had the same font that was on Isaac's report.

Desktop publishers did create the same font as well, which led us to a block wall. No answers will be found there unless we have the original documents.




Fair enough

That's what I get for being late to the party. Although typewriter work usually has subtle misalignments between the letters due to the mechanical action of typing. These misalignments would be subtle, but consistent, from machine to machine. That's part of the science oif typewriter forensics, how to tell one machine from another. Nothing is ever consistently perfect.

What I am really thinking of is the artwork for generating the diagrams, especially for the curved text. I imagine these would normally be hand rendered, and here we have curved text which looks machine perfect.

What facilities would be needed to generate machine perfect curved text in 1986?
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« Reply #1334 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:00pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:56pm, sickmindfraud wrote:
Fair enough

That's what I get for being late to the party. Although typewriter work usually has subtle misalignments between the letters due to the mechanical action of typing. These misalignments would be subtle, but consistent, from machine to machine. That's part of the science oif typewriter forensics, how to tell one machine from another. Nothing is ever consistently perfect.

What I am really thinking of is the artwork for generating the diagrams, especially for the curved text. I imagine these would normally be hand rendered, and here we have curved text which looks machine perfect.

What facilities would be needed to generate machine perfect curved text in 1986?


Good luck. Did you read about what that artwork (the linguistic primer) may actually be?

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and here we have curved text which looks machine perfect.


Well, you should see the fancy job my Super Paint did on my desktop publisher back in 1986. Do you remember that older program? Way ahead of it's time. It still is since they're still dumping the older paint in systems stock, even today. Never could figure that out considering that Super Paint is newer by 20 years now. Whatever, probably really cheap for the vendors.

Unfortunately, Super Paint was not capable of printing with a magnetic field or at least magnetic ink so the darn thing never got up in the air for the humans. lol

Ok, bad joke and I can tell I'm in my silly mode so I think it's beddie bye time.



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