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« Reply #1335 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:01pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:55pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Does any of that matter. We passed on it because it is very probably. As a matter of fact, another government employee said that he had worked in a complex that was out in the open too.

Consider the times, 1980's we were still happy, foot loose and fancy free, Reagan was president, we had too much of thie >> $$$ all the way around. The Internet barely existed so we all had lives. lol There were no conspiracy theories. lol - Ok, gotta go, I'm laughing too hard because it's all too true. Oh gosh!

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I'm not doubting the location at all, and I'm sure that other government employee did work in a populated area aswell. But I can only see the existance of a false business being advertised to civilians streetside as nothing more than a liability rather than something that may help remain incognito.
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« Reply #1336 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:14pm »

Hi all, I have been following this thread and the previous big basin thread since about a week after the alleged big basin sighting. I have been trying to keep up with all of the posts and ideas and possible explanations floating aroung the net. Let me just say, it has been inspirational and ATO has done a great job in trying to keep people focused, included and open to new as well as old ideas.

I live in Santa Cruz Ca. and found it very interesting when someone posted about "the drone sighting" in a mountain biking forum I visit. So it has been a pleasure watching and reading all of the thoughts and ideas that are being shared on the many subjects that may or may not be associated with these "drone sightings". I especially like the research aspect that is taking place in search of truth. It inspired me to try and find answers and associations that may or may not pertain to the "drone". In my next post i will try to explain some of the "hoax" associations i have found interesting and would like your comments and insights. Although i will seem to focus on the "hoax" i also have ideas of what could also be realistic technolological advancement that is not yet public knowledge. Along with the feasibility of ET technology, ETs and UFOs etc. All i really know is that I have more questions now than i did before i ever knew of the suspected drone...which i think is a good thing actually. And which is why i am no longer lurking and actually posting. I was pretty comfortable sitting back and watching this all unfold but i have what i think are relative and interesting ideas and questions that hopefully you all can help me dig into a little deeper. And in the meantime i'm keeping my eye to sky just in case i can catch a glimpse of one of these "drones" myself. Wonder how many more questions i'll have if that happens...
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« Reply #1337 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:14pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:01pm, syn wrote:
I'm not doubting the location at all, and I'm sure that other government employee did work in a populated area aswell. But I can only see the existance of a false business being advertised to civilians streetside as nothing more than a liability rather than something that may help remain incognito.


Give it a generic name like Plausible Research. What's that mean to the average Joe?

Back then the only people that would have attempted to approach the guard area would have been yellow page ad salesmen anyway wondering why they weren't listed in the phone book.

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« Reply #1338 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:20pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 9:28pm, urantia606 wrote:
Starsigndavid has posted the BOMBSHELL letter from Teller to President Reagan.

Especially page4...second paragraph where Teller talks about:

"An ingenious NEW circular airfoil design......a SINGLE wing......single wing as well .....pivoting at it's center......wing is at right angles to the plane at take off and landing... the focus of INTENSE development of which I have personal knowledge..etc."

This is exactly what we see in the skies this summer!

EXACTLY!

PS: ORIGINAL, do not be confused...just read what I just posted above!

This letter is the Smoking Gun.



Here's the design they are talking about, courtesy of Popular Science website

Google has plenty of pics of this stuff under the term oblique wing
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« Reply #1339 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:24pm »

How about a name like:

ORIGINAL RESEARCH INC.

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« Reply #1340 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:25pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:20pm, sickmindfraud wrote:
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Here's the design they are talking about, courtesy of Popular Science website

I don't know why but I do not see a future use for such things. In other words, I don't feel it.

Off-Topic here. I just lost all of my PMs I had pending. Did anyone else lose theirs?

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« Reply #1341 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:28pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:14pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Give it a generic name like Plausible Research. What's that mean to the average Joe?

Back then the only people that would have attempted to approach the guard area would have been yellow page ad salesmen anyway wondering why they weren't listed in the phone book.

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Hahaha, good point. I stand corrected. grin
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« Reply #1342 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:33pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:14pm, Jaydog97 wrote:
Hi all, I have been following this thread and the previous big basin thread since about a week after the alleged big basin sighting. I have been trying to keep up with all of the posts and ideas and possible explanations floating aroung the net. Let me just say, it has been inspirational and ATO has done a great job in trying to keep people focused, included and open to new as well as old ideas.


Welcome Jaydog and thank you.

You live in the very city where my absolute favorite victorian house exist, the Hinds House. I'm a victorian house nut. Spent a lot of time there. Have friends in Scotts Valley and Ben Lomand near the Howden Castle. Love the area.

Well, enjoy and jump right in.

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« Reply #1343 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:37pm »

Sickmind:

I don't think you have read Dr. Tellers' letter carefully.

He is talking about three different designs of RPVs.

The one I focus on is this:

"An ingenious new circular airfoil design is now in experimental stage. A single wing is used in this design."

This, I submit, is the Drone we are seeing at this time.

The second design is the one you have hot linked.

The third design is probably the Stealth fighter, a Black Triangle or some other Black Project.

He also mentions "small space objects".
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« Reply #1344 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:41pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:45pm, sickmindfraud wrote:
agreed

It stops all these people asking if I'm crazy

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We're all a little crazy. Horrible version of crazy here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpYuiDLg7mo

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« Reply #1345 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:45pm »

ATO:

Let me make this more clear.

I am talking ONLY about two sentences in Dr. Teller's ltr to President Reagan.

I quote:

"An ingenious new circular airfoil design is now in experimental stage. A single wing is used in this design."

That is what we now see. Sorry for the confusion of my previous quote/post.

The Popular Science article is not what this is about, although it is an interesting idea for a plane.

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« Reply #1346 on: Jul 4th, 2007, 12:18am »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 9:44pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
If the humans are reverse engineering alien drones, were or are they doing it here in Livermore, California. Livermore is 41 miles from Saratoga, California - hence Big Basin.

Look at the big chunk of pie that the DoD gets. Click the following address.

http://www.llnl.gov/llnl/about/Funding_Pie_05.pdf

And, this is what Livermore was doing in the 1980's.

http://www.llnl.gov/timeline/80s.html

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You live in Livermore, CA too?

I live about 12 blocks away from the Lab on East Avenue.

It always worries me, being so close to the lab and that new Ignition Facility they built 10 years ago.

I have not seen any "strange" crafts, but I have had several UFO sightings since moving to the valley.
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« Reply #1347 on: Jul 4th, 2007, 12:34am »

on Jul 4th, 2007, 12:18am, Miscreant wrote:
You live in Livermore, CA too?

I live about 12 blocks away from the Lab on East Avenue.

It always worries me, being so close to the lab and that new Ignition Facility they built 10 years ago.

I have not seen any "strange" crafts, but I have had several UFO sightings since moving to the valley.


If I knew they were performing fusion and fission experiments 12 blocks from MY home I would have moved to Florida.
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« Reply #1348 on: Jul 4th, 2007, 12:44am »


Y'all better be bouncing around in all of the pages within this address.

This was Edward Teller's daily place of employment much of his life.

http://www.llnl.gov/
http://www.llnl.gov/timeline/80s.html

The more the merrier, the websites not too awful big.

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Laboratory founders Ernest O. Lawrence
and Edward Teller and the Laboratory's
first director, Herbert York





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« Reply #1349 on: Jul 4th, 2007, 12:50am »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:14pm, Jaydog97 wrote:
In my next post i will try to explain some of the "hoax" associations i have found interesting and would like your comments and insights. Although i will seem to focus on the "hoax" i also have ideas of what could also be realistic technolological advancement that is not yet public knowledge. Along with the feasibility of ET technology, ETs and UFOs etc. All i really know is that I have more questions now than i did before...


OK, deep breath wink...lets go for a ride and review a few things and kind of re-live it from my perspective. I realize some of these questions have been asked and i ask you to bare with me, i think i have a point but it's been hard to process all of this into a coherent thought.

The first impression i had when i saw the big basin drone photos was "WTF!" then after zooming in and looking at them for hours I thought they looked very high tech but not neccassarily out of this world. So i started looking at RAV's and UAV's. After clicking around the net for a while I happened upon a northrop grumman website which had an interesting press release that didnt say much other than they flew a "succesful mission" of a new UAV from southern california on the same day as the sighting in big basin, interesting. I just looked for the link and can't seem to find it now...sorry i'll try to dig it up later. But it begs the question, could it be a test flight of new unreleased technology from southern ca. It's possible...i think.

Then i noodled around the forums some more and someone made a connection to a halo3 webiste that has the drone pic in the backround, interesting. So i started to try to understand the ARG that is in play regarding the upcoming game release to see if there's more clues or ties. What i started to see looked a lot like the movie Contact. Think of Bill Gates/Microsoft of as HR Hadden industries which funded the Machine or was it a hoax? I like how that question is left unanswered in the movie, same as today with the drone...interesting? i think so.

So what type of connections or associations can we make between the drone and the Isaac report and CARET. Bare with me once again and entertain some far out ideas.

OK...Halo2, ilovebees internet marketing ARG campaign, yet there's a real life epidemic of declining bee population that in theory could impact life on earth. No pollination equals no food, in essence i think that's the theory but i'm sure there's more to it. But what i really ask is, is ilovebees life imitating art or art imitating life...interesting, i think. And could this have been an adolescent hoax in practice and preparation for a bigger "drone" hoax? Feasible...who currently on earth has virtually unlimited funding and technological ability to pull this type of hoax off...Bungie/Microsoft? interesting? I think so.

OK, now lets play with possible associations...

Drone - similar satelite seen on halo3 trailer and a eery engineer quote in the making of halo documentary clip that i think may elude to more than just the ARG and a much bigger marketing scheme.
High Resolution Behind The Scenes on Bungie (Direct download link - 383 MB - Windows Media)

Then there's the underside writings picture on webpage (AR27 i think it was?). I'm reaching here, bare with me. I realize this has been covered.

Isaac - societyoftheancients ARG website (all ARG related right...or is it?) has an Isaac Newton quote on the top of the page reading "I was like a boy playing on the sea-shore and diverting myself now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me." - Isaac Newton. Interesting? Very, especially the last part, "a great ocean of truth" (Remember that line, i'll come back to it eventually.) This SOTA website also has some truly interesting verbage and links (SETI, CSETI, FOIA, NASA etc.) which would lead one to beleive it a real site yet at the same time there is also an ISP link to "a new discovery in africa" which takes you to the new server for halo3, interesting? I think so, certainly the links anways.

CARET - Research of Educational Technology founded by Bill Gates and his wife?...intersting? I think so. Ponder this...Kids have been using games for educational purposes for years. How hard would it be to use a game to open a can of worms like technology suppression. If you get the kids attention by playing and learning through the game then your future is secure but what about the present? The old gaurd needs education too, create a giant hoax to uncover the truth? interesting yes? and i think plausible.

PACL - Politcal Action Commitee (L?) ?

OK now let me digress...from the links on the SOTA site (are these links all legit?) i clicked through the http://www.cseti.com/ site and found a wealth of interesting plausible ET information. Also links to the disclosure project etc. which has been brought up here already. So from CSETI i ended up on http://www.seaspower.com/ which has some really interesting concepts regarding technological evolution if you will and how to circumvent the suppression of advanced and clean technologies. Truly intrigueing to say the least. And i recommend some interview audio:
October 31, 2005 - SEAS CEO Dr. Steven Greer was interviewed by Tim Ventura of American Antigravity. Listen to the archived interview at http://www.americanantigravity.com/articles/293/1/Dr.-Steven-Greer-Interview. (Updated November 2, 2005)

So what is the recurring theme..."the people need to know" and is life imitating art or art imitating life? Could one of the arguably richest man/corporations have a heart for humanity and play this drone hoax for means to publicise concepts of technology suppression and advancement? With an ET plot and a plausible connection of ET contact and technology extraction along with controlled release and suppression. If so i think this dangeling CARET (advanced research in educational technology?) is working like a charm, i've learned more the last 2 weeks than i did in all 4 years of high school. And i'm still full of questions. Like, what if PACL linguistics chart ends up being a map to a level in halo3, I might have to go buy an xbox just so i can play it and understand it in a 3d virtual world.

Remember that quote from the SOTA ARG website now?
"whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me." - Isaac Newton.

Sorry this post is rediculously long, it's been intrigueing to try and digest alot of this info...so hopefully it makes some sense as i post it but i'm sure there's some gaps. Thanks for reading, i look forward to your comments. Please be constructive as i hope i was.
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