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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES - SOLVED ???
« Reply #135 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 01:53am »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 10:48pm, primaryconflict wrote:
I guess the biggest reason this whole mythology (of the drones and Isaac's story) "isn't" true is because the "engineering" schematics from Isaacs site appeared this evening on the HBO special



Sorry to bring this up...was EarthFiles partner to this apparent hoax? Didn't they have all the first releases and kept everything mum's the word. And Streiber! He really went all out when it appeared this was real. Anyone else come to mind? Is there $ at play for keeping quiet? Hear what i'm saying....i am not apologizing anymore for sarcasm....seems it might be justified.

Anyway, it's been real...learned a lot of stuff...defense industry....fotoshop stuff. Personally, gained much but what a missed potential!
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« Reply #136 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 02:00am »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 7:35pm, Miscreant wrote:
I hate to say it, but I've seen that font before.

It's a Star Wars alien font. Also mixed in is another alien font.

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Don't think so, close but just not there.
I'm sure if you dig deep enough you'll come up with the exact symbols as shown in the Isaac photos compiled from many different sources.
If you want a comparison take a look at the rings on the craft and the rings in the copies, those pieces are much closer than your Stars Wars fonts.
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« Reply #137 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 05:02am »

I just watched the HBO special concerning Transformers.

I saw nothing that has to do with this thread or the strange craft.

They did speak a little about the plot; alien robots come to Earth and search for some kind of device, it then pops to a robot picking up something, then it shows a cube like that of the Star Trek Borg just for a split second. That was it as far as I saw. I saw nothing that relates to the descritption given as far as language dialect or the strange craft's mechanisms on any computer screen.

I frankly do not know what that poster was refering to.

I tell you what though, it will be very clear on July 3-4th. That is when the Transformers movie hits the theater.

I looked at all the transformers google videos I could find...nothing.

I grew up on Transformers, so obviously I'm going to go see it. Until then, my opinion is these two subjects are not related.

I will view that show HBO show again, but I looked hard for it the whole way through, it is 5am here now though, it is possible I missed it but I don't think so.
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« Reply #138 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 06:16am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 05:02am, Nephilim wrote:
I just watched the HBO special concerning Transformers. I saw nothing that has to do with this thread or the strange craft. I saw nothing that relates to the description given as far as language dialect or the strange craft's mechanisms on any computer screen. I frankly do not know what that poster was refering to.


What Nephilim is referring to is actually something many of us researched for a few weeks back during the initial Chad, Tahoe and Capitola drone.

The following is a poster's comment yesterday.

on Jun 27th, 2007, 10:48pm, primaryconflict wrote:
I guess the biggest reason this whole mythology (of the drones and Isaac's story) "isn't" true is because the "engineering" schematics from Isaacs site appeared this evening on the HBO special on the making of the Transformers! Viral marketing at its best, and it appears to be working in this forum.


What do you suppose the poster saw that you did not see Nephilim because the comments are quite blatant. You were both watching the same HBO special on the making of the Transformers, right?

Thanks for all of that Nephilim. I couldn't imagine it to be much more then what we already knew since we had spent so much time researching the new Transformer movie and images and I really didn't want to dig through those 33 pages for those posts.

So, onward and upward but here we sit again just like we did after Chad, Tahoe, Capitola, Birmingham and Big Basin. Waiting, but waiting for what?

This is the same problem again as with the others, unless something gives it all begins to instill those feelings in all of us that a viral marketing campaign scenario could still be a possibility - at least we can dismiss the Transformers movie and the new Halo3 game now.

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« Reply #139 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 06:42am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 01:53am, Farmboy wrote:
Sorry to bring this up...was EarthFiles partner to this apparent hoax? Didn't they have all the first releases and kept everything mum's the word. And Streiber! He really went all out when it appeared this was real. Anyone else come to mind? Is there $ at play for keeping quiet? Hear what i'm saying....i am not apologizing anymore for sarcasm....seems it might be justified.

Anyway, it's been real...learned a lot of stuff...defense industry....fotoshop stuff. Personally, gained much but what a missed potential!


Coast to Coast was the only website that Isaac notified. Earthfiles, like ourselves picked it up from there as did Whitney.

You do know now Farmboy that the poster was incorrect about the HBO spot on the making of the movie Transformer's.

See how just one statement can change the light on the picture we're trying to piece together. Nephilim watched the same HBO special and saw nothing like the other poster described.



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« Reply #140 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 06:58am »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 11:01pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Yeah, I think Isaac's more real if you know what I mean. And, I can't read any B.S. into what he writes. I can always smell that. lol And, I sensed nadda.

For that matter, same goes for Chad, Mr. Smith (Birmingham), the Tahoe lady and Rahjman. They all appeared to be straight up in their emails, which were numerous.

I can't really say that for Jenna and Stephen though on the last sighting. Something left a bad taste in my mouth but I couldn't really pin point it. The fact that she is a photographer by trade certainly had something to do with it but then again, photographers are notorious for shooting nature so to have a camera with you out there is not uncommon if your a photographer.


I'm quoting myself here for good reason. I read thoroughly all of the many emails presented by those mentioned above that were delivered to Coast to Coast, Earthfiles and ourselves.

I understand the nature of an individual based on the words they use when they write. I can build upon such statements a personality and their traits. What I cannot do without that individual standing in front of me speaking is uncover a professional liar. Not by email anyway.

Outside of the drones being exactly what they are and the new information from Isaac being what it is as well, the only other possibility is described in what follows.

Professional liars. "These are the hardest to identify," Mazzarella says. "They donít lie indiscriminately, like the habitual liar. They lie for a purpose." These are people like the mechanic who routinely cons motorists about their faulty transmissions, or the realtor who explains that ceiling stains are the result of "old damage from a water leak in the attic," as opposed to a leaky roof. Professional liars have thought their lies through and know exactly what theyíre going to say and when. Because the lie has been practiced so often, it will not be revealed by the liarís voice, body language or appearance. The only way to catch professional liars is by checking their statements against an independent source."

This is not to be confused with a habitual liar or a pathological liar since they are completely different and tremendously easy to peg.

Like myself, if you're interested in such things visit this website where they define the "liar" quite nicely.

http://www.geocities.com/changes1611//sins22lies5c


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« Reply #141 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 07:09am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 01:20am, OnlookerDelay wrote:
I had pretty much written of the "strange drone craft" as a Photoshop hoax after reading the analysis of serveral well-versed pixel people (as Art calls them). This opens the door again for further scrutiny. Whether it's for real or a hoax, it's a fascinating story. I find it hard to believe that a hoaxer would go to this much trouble to further the story. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I know I don't have anywhere near the ambition and drive it would take to pull this off.


Well look what the cat drug in. grin grin

I was just thinking about you yesterday while opening up my email. I received an email from our friend Neil Steinberg from the Chicago Sun Times. You remember, the one who wrote the article UFOs Are In Your Dreams, Keep Them There!

I sent him a copy of the Coast to Coast report on this Isaac activity with a comment that one of these days he's going to eat crow.

His response was, "I shudder to think of all the money you've lost to Nigerian bank scams. Thanks for writing. Neil Steinberg.

Some things never change I guess. rolleyes

Glad to see you again.

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« Reply #142 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 07:50am »

Any news about that http://www.27.com/ site?
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« Reply #143 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 08:02am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 07:50am, WT wrote:
Any news about that http://www.27.com/ site?


A little more popped up. Go to these two pages.

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1182283823

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=reports&num=1179108769&action=display&start=390

But more importantly................

This might interest those who found the Halo3, Bungie association with the Big Basin drone interesting.

I figured this out today (I wrote this over a week ago and today is 6/28) while visiting various UFO/alien forums and websites and wrote the following email to BJ.

BJ: I think I figured out the HALO3 thing. They aren't dummies certainly but to involve themselves with the Chad and Big Basin thing while using your article to do so produced a tremendous amount advertising via Google. Here's how they did it...

Just like the small adds on the top of your forum, they pop up according to various words that are typed somewhere within that page.

Well, if you were to go into the websites or forums that are talking about HALO3 w/Chad, Big Basin and Bungie, etc. (which are the more numerous pages in UFO forums today), at the top or bottom of each of those pages are ads by Google that look like this.

Ads by Google: Bungie Halo 2 Xbox Halo 3 Halo 2 the Xbox Game Halo II

So, just talking about the Halo3's associations with Big Basin, ect. in the various websites and forums is prompting all this advertising for them. UFO's and aliens happen to be a very popular subject for gamers. Consequently, the team at Halo aint no dummies. lol


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« Reply #144 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 08:06am »

So what's the official word on the HBO snippet? False information? If so, good. I hope to hear more from this Isaac character. Otherwise, it could always be Bungie, so I'm going to begin another day of investigations...
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« Reply #145 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 08:26am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 08:06am, jlc767 wrote:
So what's the official word on the HBO snippet? False information? If so, good. I hope to hear more from this Isaac character. Otherwise, it could always be Bungie, so I'm going to begin another day of investigations...


No, it doesn't appear to be either. The answers are right above your post on this same page.
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« Reply #146 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 08:40am »

I haven't seen the HBO image that's being referenced so I can't comment on that. What the poster did accomplish - which is a feat in itself - was get me to visit Transformer fan sites, movie script information sites, comic book tie ins and lots of images! The last time I had any interest in Transformers was over a decade ago when my sons blackmailed me into buying an entire fleet of the 5" versions. So, perhaps that was the motivation behind the post, lots of UFO folks checking out everything Transformer. From the advance reviews I read on the movie, it might need the help.

I would like to share one thing that I feel is extremely important: however this shakes out and regardless of our differences of opinion here, NOBODY rolled over and bought it flat out. Every one of us questioned it, right from the beginning. There was no rejoicing in the streets from the UFO community. If this was the goal of a hoaxer, the "drama in the streets" that they hoped to create, they failed. What they got was the same scrutiny that any such claim would get. In addition, as far as I can tell, they got no publicity outside of this community. If the purpose was to generate widespread mainstream publicity for a product (movie or game), it was money wasted.

Here's to another day of adventure.


NOTE: Linda Moulton Howe will be on Coast to Coast AM Thursday, June 28 from 10 to 11 pm Pacific time talking about the mystery of the drones.
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« Reply #147 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 08:43am »

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NOTE: Linda Moulton Howe will be on Coast to Coast AM Thursday, June 28 from 10 to 11 pm Pacific time talking about the mystery of the drones.


Oh, hell yes! Thanks for the heads-up!
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« Reply #148 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 08:45am »

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/pacl-lang-analysis-p123-fullsize.jpg

take a look at the stapling holes on the left.
they are black. right?

take a look at the edge of the paper, you can clearly see it on the left. whats outside the scanned paper? a white background.

then, how come the stapling holes are black then?

to obtain black holes you need to keep the copy machine with its cover opened while scanning.
but if the cover is opened, then, everything outside the paper should be black. you cant have both in the same time unless you really want that effect.

its a hoax.



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« Reply #149 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 09:03am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 08:45am, mimimi wrote:
take a look at the stapling holes on the left.
they are black. right?
take a look at the edge of the paper, you can clearly see it on the left. whats outside the scanned paper? a white background.
then, how come the stapling holes are black then?
to obtain black holes you need to keep the copy machine with its cover opened while scanning.
but if the cover is opened, then, everything outside the paper should be black. you cant have both in the same time unless you really want that effect.
its a hoax.


Debunked over something so explainable and yet so trivial.

I'm not going to break my brain but it's simply a matter of making a copy of a copy.

He purposely blacked out text on some of the report. Do you think he blacked it out without making a copy first so that he would still have that text in his possession? Of course he would have. He's probably got plenty of copies.

Not to mention, this also depends on what kind of copier he is using. If he's using a copier in a library (book copier), he could very easily have black holes and no black on the outsides since there is no paper where the hole is and instead shows black, but a copier that accepts an open book or manuscript will not produce the black outsides. It might if your paper is legal and your manuscript page is 8.5x11.

Lastly, if look at all of the original pictures (and not the ones I posted on page one that I cropped to death) you can plainly see black protruding somewhat on the edges.


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