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« Reply #15 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 01:34am »

Since the photos and story was released, the Chad fella, I have placed this topic under questionable.

I still am not totally convinced, only because I have a few questions about the Isaac person.

Why withhold some information? Isn't this much like what we are faced with concerning the government? They do not tell us what they think we should not hear/see...same with this Isaac. It is frustrating that people can't just spill the beans for once.

Paranoia on my part? Perhaps, but wouldn't it be wise of the government to send out an agent to disinform the people away from the real truth?

The only problem with this thinking, is that if the Isaac person were just spreading disinformation, wouldn't his/her conclusion end with 'it's no big deal' or something to this effect? This didn't happen.

Another thing, why would we have not heard about this specific topic before now? Out of all the suposed disclosure by so many people, we have heard nothing really of this in all the years? Could it be that, like Isaac said, they were waiting for someone to stumble on it and get it out there, before a whistleblower would speak about it? I do not count this out as it does make a little sense. perhaps there have been indirect references to this and we just never realised that this is what they were speaking of. This is possible.

I have to admit, his story sounds much like what I have come to believe about corporations, private funding of project, the military and their secret projects [i.e., the Industrial Military Complex].

A couple of things to note:

1. He never said the overall objective as to what this is all about except that it was not an immediate threat [he noted the aliens could have squashed us like bugs long ago, so-to-speak, so hinting around as to what it all means]

2. The holographic ability struck an alarm with me. I have an article, from the year 1999, where it is this new holographic projection thing some folks had come up with, also, they were now able to reproduce anyone's voice and create their own statements just by recordeing a bit of that persons talk. The implications, as an example, was that they could create a holographic image of the muslim's Allah, and have this hologram float in the sky over a muslim nation. This was just one idea they had. They also said this would take a huge mirror on a sattelite and would be unlikely. But what about this strange craft tech? Could there be a tie to this in any way? I will search for the article later, I have it burnt onto disc and will have to search for it.

3. I would suggest you all try to think of abstract things you have heard about throught hte years that may very well pertain to this strange craft technology, based on what is said by this Isaac.

4. Have any of you ever seen or recall the Star Trek show where aliens had took over the enterprise, but no one knew about it. the aliens conected their mechanisms up to the crew's brains, but no one knew about it because the aliens were invisible to their sight. I don't know, just made me think of that show.

5. If the Chad and Isaac cases are real, this does not mean that every photo and claim out there is. We all know how easy it is to fake something nowdays, and we also are aware of the sensationalists [i like to call hoaxsters sensationalists, it's is almost like a disease, or an addiction, which is a phycological condition], and these shouldn't be ruled out. I bring this up just to say that if one is fake, it doesn't mean they all are and vis-versa.

6. If we keep our excitment and skepticism in control, we may be able to come out with some truth to the matter. I do admit, I am more excited than skeptical, I would just hate to see any hope dashed if this turns out a fraud, as this would be the main objective of any disinformation, that and to get the truth as far away as possible from those who seek it.

I am going to read the whole thing once more and then comment again.

I hope this is the real deal.
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 02:30am »

the i-beams conceptually could be rt superconductors that are self-locked into place once current is activated.

The documents are familiar in tone to DOD stuff I've seen - seemingly simplistic but on second and third reading there is lots said between the lines. Or maybe what's between the lines is our own willingness to believe.

I am in phase with this thread...and would not especially like to hear tomorrow am that the Transformer movie has all of this. The i-beams could be nicely done, bakelite models. The manuals could prove the product of well paid script staff. However, this level of fakery seems a bit of a stretch for just a movie.

Back to the probes. Assuming they are physically real whatever the origin, the "crackling" noise suggests lifter. The radial construct suggests high field capability based on extreme mag flux achievable from a superconductor ring.
The color and reflectivity of the beam segments (if not bakelite or polycarb) suggest advanced metal-ceramic metamaterial composite. The stated weight of several ounces is confusing...either a lie or advanced nanotech processing of non-metal components.

Leaving reservations aside and going with the flow, the technology represented is plausible. And PLAUSIBILITY is what we are dealing with as a first order of addressing the non-fully disclosed "evidence" so far. The information storage that is claimed could occur by quantum encoding and processing...solid state quantum matrix arrays....just as someone compared with DVD technology but way more sophisticated. Quantum encoding is just a few years away from the commercial markets anyway.

The writing is an issue. First, Why, and how, the blueprints? Et's culture would have gone paperless long ago. And how would transcription of 3-D meta-language quantum encoding, or even something beyond that, to english and two dimensional paper occur? THis is a big downward leap of faith. But, the phrasing openly and honestly admits to that challenge. I can get into that boat.

MY take: the details have accumulated to a point where I believe no movie studio would want to go much less appear so successful at faking it. A hybrid reality is believable. Need to see some math that lies behind isaac's analysis team's work. Then maybe somehow a specimen will be offered. Even if i personally saw a probe, I would find it very hard to report it without some widely-accepted, external reference beyond just my honest face.
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« Reply #17 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 04:07am »

Very interesting. I look forward to how this story will develop. On one hand it looks like disinfo mixed with some truth to make us believe it though. But anyway very very interesting explanation.
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« Reply #18 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 05:01am »

Hey guys I get real worried when words like "solved" are being used.

UFO community is hoax central when it comes to self promotion for some people. e.g. Alien autopsy, World trade centre ufo film, Serpo the list goes on and on and on.

This has to treated like any thing else "A hoax until proven other wise" until ET came come down and say yes that is our technology.

If we don't do this people who can produce 3D animation will turn us all into a joke. What is happening now is real test of how serious the UFO community should be.

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« Reply #19 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 05:31am »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 04:04am, OO1O111O wrote:
can't you spot a bad fake when you see it? this is by the same guy who did this:


We're all quite familiar with the pictures by now. You cannot simply dismiss the possibility. After all, with the tremendous amount of coverage of the Chad, Rahjam, Tahoe, Birmingham and Big Basin drones, it was hoped and expected that possibly someone may have more input that would want share. Who is to say that this isn't just that? We'll know over time but until then we should all have an open mind.

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« Reply #20 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 06:48am »

Maybe this explains why many UFO sightings are near power line installations or power stations, perhaps Electricity interferes with their cloaking, and since electicity has been very common since the early to mid 1900's, as a widespread energy system, perhaps that is why sightings suddenly became more common place.

Just speculation on my part, but perhaps.

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« Reply #21 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 07:31am »

chgowriter , one must read as well as write. This individual has already stated that these are present day scans from original documents and photos. This was addressed by several people in an earlier post. "Isaac" clearly states that the only alterations that he made to the documents were to those sections that might lead to his identification or sections that might be more dangerous to expose. As to gaining attention and some sort fame through perpetrating a hoax, I will believe that when his ID is revealed, he's paid for interviews, books, and DVD's - all of which he clearly rejects in his letter. Hard to be famous when your anonymous. (please re-read the intro letter for the actual quotes).

If this is a marketing ploy, it's a costly one. It's missing it's audience, and could very well back fire. It represents an amateurs approach to marketing, however the "props" are far from amateur. I would like to point out as well that "Transformers" is produced by Spielberg, from all that I've come to understand, a man who doesn't take this subject lightly (or would endorse such a game).

Could this be a hoax - sure, and a very, very good on at that. Might this be be the truth? Yes, and a very significant milestone. Have I decided 100%? No. But, it's obvious from your posts that you have. This is your right.

We are people hidden behind "nicknames" here. Any one of us might be a "hoax", playing a part in one, or spreading disinformation. On the other hand, there are some of us with more intimate knowledge of this subject and, although they may not feel comfortable sharing the fact, experts in some key areas.
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« Reply #22 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 07:40am »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 07:31am, MarkM wrote:
Could this be a hoax - sure, and a very, very good on at that. Might this be be the truth? Yes, and a very significant milestone. Have I decided 100%? No.


Exactly, which is why we need open minds and not debunkers. Healthy skepticism is requested, but nobody can (at this point) say outright that this is a hoax, not yet anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 08:34am »

on Jun 26th, 2007, 11:41pm, chgowriter wrote:
Got another question. On Isaac's "documents" why are there blocks of text blacked out?

Didn't his group write that report? If so, then who blacked out certain lines? I mean, why would you black out parts of your own report? You'd know what was in them.

Usually stuffed is blacked out of once-classified documents that are obtained via the FOIA. If you took the papers directly out of the actual government file, they shouldn't have those blacked-out portions, unless Isaac is being coy with his info, or possibly faking it.
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Isaac reported the following within the text.

However my intent is not to deceive, so information that I think is too risky to share will be simply left out rather than obfuscated in some way (aside from my alias, which I freely admit is not my real name).

I can imagine that if this is all true, then there would be consequences if he were to show and tell all. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

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« Reply #24 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 08:35am »

What I would really be interested in is which crashed UFO this came from. A tremendous amount of people would probably like to know that.

Isaac stated....
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My time at the DoD was mostly uneventful but I was there for quite a while. I apparently proved myself to be reasonably intelligent and loyal. By 1984 these qualities along with my technical background made me a likely candidate for a new program they were recruiting for called “CARET”.


Considering that he said that CARET was a new program, we may be able to assume that the UFO crash was just previous to 1984.

The following are all of the UFO crashes that I could locate from 1984 back to 1974 to be safe. We could go back as far as Roswell but I would think that such a program would have started long before 1984 if these pieces came from Roswell.

5-74
Chili, NM
An Air Force team allegedly removed a 60 foot wide metallic object from an impact area and moved it to Kirtland AFB

5-1978
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1974: A globe-shaped UFO exploded near the town of Donetsk in the northern Rostov region of Russia. Debris from the explosion examined by many people.

1978: Western Kazahstan. A UFO similar is shape to a fighter aircraft was allegedly shot down by the Soviet military. UFO and its pilots were transported to Zhitkur.

1978: Location unknown. A landed cylinder-shaped UFO come 35 meters long was allegedly seized by the Soviet military and transported to Zhitkur.

1979: On the 17 February near the village of Zhigansk, Yakutiya republic of Russia, a disc-shaped craft with a mirror-like surface crashed into the banks of the Lena river. Alien bodies were allegedly recovered which were later autopsied at the Moscow State University.

1979: A UFO crashed in the Ural region of Russia near the village of Rinburg. The wreckage was transported to the Odintsovo military base.

1981: In May a UFO exploded on the Kolsky peninsula in the Murmansk region. Debris was recovered by the Soviet military authorities and taken to the Monchegorsk military air base.

1983: On May 5 a cone-shaped UFO was allegedly tracked on military radar and shot down by ground air defence units near Ordzhonikidze in Northern Caucasus. The wreckage was recovered by the military and transported to the Odintsovo base.

1983: A UFO was allegedly shot down with an experimental laser weapon in Kazahstan.

1984: A seismic shock wave hit the Kolsky peninsula in the Murmansk region. An alleged UFO crash was reportedly responsible and the wreckage was later recovered and transported to the military base at Monchegorsk.

1984: In northern Russia in the Taymyrian area of Siberia , near the Enisey river a ‘dolphin-shaped’ craft was recovered from the river and removed to the Zhitkur base for study.

1984: On July 20 in the Baku mountains of Azerbaijan, a UFO was seen to crash into the mountains.

Reported Crashes and Recoveries based on Witnesses and Newspaper Articles.

1974 Llandrillo, Clwyd, Wales, UK
1974 November 9 Carbondale, Pennsylvania
1974 August 25 Chihuahua, Mexico Disc crash
1976 May 12 Desert, Australia
1977 April 5 South-West Ohio, USA
1977 June 22 Northwest Arizona, USA
1977 August 17 Tobasco, Mexico
1978 May 6 Padcaya, Bolivia Search team finds nothing.
1978 Ocean off Finland, USSR USSR army
1978 November 10 Lebannon
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« Reply #25 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 09:19am »

Isaac stated........
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It's no surprise that these sightings are all taking place in California, and especially the Saratoga/South Bay area. Not far from Saratoga is Mountain View/Sunnyvale, home to Moffett Field and the NASA Ames Research center.


For those interested in what is going on at Ames Research currently, or rather what is available to the public, please check the following address.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/highlights/index.html

NASA's own Astrobiology Program is contained at Ames research as well.

Ames Highlights: Astrobiology Biology Institute
Astrobiology investigates the origin, evolution, distribution, and future of life on Earth, and the search for life beyond Earth. NASA Ames is home to the NASA Astrobiology Institute and scientists whose research impacts this field.

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« Reply #26 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 10:02am »

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I wish to reiterate something I posted previously and then add to that because I feel it is due me considering my present situation. Below, I have added four addresses found here in the forum where I made the following statement going as far back as February 18, 2006. Such things were conveyed to me in 2004.

3. Executive Summary Q486
"Three-dimensional image recorder/projector"


This sounds like what it was they explained to me that they use for stealth and able to keep them in our airspace while not being seen - recording and then projecting their surroundings around the craft while it sits still and silent in our skies.

I'll bet that their appearance was made possible BECAUSE of an interference near high tension wires, which is why we see them by high tension wires.

My additional post now is as follows

To follow are my comments I have made in the past here in the UFO Casebook forum regarding what I have been shown by aliens.

I understand that most find it difficult to comprehend the possibility of contactees but we do exist. In the following posts I mention the camera/projecter equipment that the aliens use for stealth technology in order to hide their existence while sitting on top of our heads.

Posted June 21, 2007
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=reports&action=display&num=1182533928

Posted March 31, 2007
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1175347369

Posted May 2, 2006
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=reports&action=display&num=1146511109

Posted February 18, 2006
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=reports&action=display&num=1140190369

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« Reply #27 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 10:04am »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 05:01am, gusblake wrote:
Hey guys I get real worried when words like "solved" are being used.

UFO community is hoax central when it comes to self promotion for some people. e.g. Alien autopsy, World trade centre ufo film, Serpo the list goes on and on and on.

This has to treated like any thing else "A hoax until proven other wise" until ET came come down and say yes that is our technology.

If we don't do this people who can produce 3D animation will turn us all into a joke. What is happening now is real test of how serious the UFO community should be.

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Yup, I would have to agree.
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« Reply #28 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 10:15am »

A few things...

• I really, really, really want to know the 4th entry on the list.

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/pacl-q486-report-p3-halfsize.jpg

• Also, and maybe it's me, but I'm still troubled by the Big Bason footage. And by troubled I mean concerned that it's a fake...

http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/968/Big_Basin_Chad_UFO_Drone_CGI/

First off, why is there only 20 seconds of footage? I mean, really. It doesn't make sense. If you're in the damn desert with a camcorder in the first place and a UFO or drone pops up out of no where what are the chances of only have 20 seconds of battery life?

But that's not the case; he shuts off the camera (at the end of the movie).

Another thing that bothers me is that the fashion with which the "drone" is filmed doesn't seem realistic. Not to say that there isn't enough movement (I realize the "drone" is close to him), but for some reason it's screaming CG render and I can't place it. I think it's the fact that the camera is fixed on the "drone" and keeps it centered the entire time as it zooms around.

The end of the movie is the icing on the cake for me. 20 seconds of footage and "Chad" decides to stop filming (we physically see when Chad decides to drop his arm from filming and the footage ends). Why? Why on Gods green earth would you put the camera down?

Plus, there's no sound? C'mon!
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« Reply #29 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 10:28am »

so what are these crafts?

1. the 3 prototypes, (mentioned in the scan)
2. an man-made object with alien parts
3. a complete extraterristical creation

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