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« Reply #165 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:13am »

I'd like to say "Hi" to the newer contributers here - I hope you stick around, there's some great sleuthing going on. We need all the brain power we can get when something like this comes along!

Yup, so far it's been a great ride - hope the landing isn't anti-climactic smiley.
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« Reply #166 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:13am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 09:41am, jugement wrote:
since you have the for most athourity on thease subjects and are so sceptical about what every one ealse write and finds it so amuzing you make we wander are you for real or are you here for to let me or every one know that you are the queen dictator for the alliens


No jugement, just a moderator doing my job. Not a queen dictator, but I use to take dictation. Does that count.

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« Reply #167 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:18am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 10:09am, mimimi wrote:
there is simply not enough information contained on these schemes. no matter how you could interpret the blueprints, it is not enough information in them to program anything bigger than a fairly small script.

im a designer, im used with intricate shapes and patterns and i know how to do them in illustrator. the work is well done, the author wasnt lazy. if he cloned a lot, he surely modified the cloned objects. anyway, it does not look alien to me, either way you take it.

the text is very romantic so to speak, the guy talks more about the background, the history, the feelings, etc, than the actual alien artifacts or technology. not to mention some childish james bond techniques of hiding papers in the pants, oh cmon!

while i want to believe these things exist,
when they will appear, for sure, it will be beyond a shadow of a doubt and not on one obscure page on the internet.

if one guy has real proof, why not make 100 copies, put them inside 100 envelopes and send a copy to each of the biggest earth publications. ofc, anonimously. if you really want to share and reveal the truth about the gov or the army and hit the fan, why not do it properly? why set up a dubious webpage? do you think its more secure that way?

yes. its my first post, 2nd this one.
i dont like to spend a lot of time on forums.

but from time to time i see something and i need to say something





You've sort of hit on my main cause for doubt, and that is that this machine is almost too "cool" looking. It really represents a very modern approach to what designers and special effects people are doing now days, and yet this thing is supposedly from the 1980's... That's one thing that is consistent in hoaxes - the design of the hoax fits expectations of what people at the time consider to look "high tech".
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« Reply #168 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:19am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 10:01am, spiffy wrote:
That said, I increasingly think this is probably, unfortunately, a hoax. A hoax in the form of some kind of viral marketing campaign, cleverly crafted and conceived by smart, creative people with access to professionals with the skills to create the Issac images and text (and the Chad images and such, natch). There are too many similarities and coincidences beginning to emerge -- or at the very least hints and intimations thereof -- that suggest this is a very skillfully done, nearly flawlessly executed marketing tie-in of some sort. Halo or Transformers? Take your pick at this point, I guess.


I don't know if it's a hoax or not. But I seriously doubt it's a marketing ploy. If it was then having only UFO forums following it they'd never be able to recoup the money they spent on marketing. This forum has 6000 or so members. Of that I doubt this thread or the news of this object is going to drive anyone to see the movie who already hasn't planned to see it. Same with Halo 3. People will be lined up to buy the game when it comes out. If this is a hoax to market either the movie or game then I'm sure those who worked on it didn't do it for free. Yes I know there's other UFO related forums but even with that it's a poor way to drum up business. When you consider most of those who want to see the movie are either kids or people who are into Sci-Fi. I doubt there's many members here who had not planned to see the movie suddenly have a change of heart because of this topic. I haven't!
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« Reply #169 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:20am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 10:09am, mimimi wrote:
if one guy has real proof, why not make 100 copies, put them inside 100 envelopes and send a copy to each of the biggest earth publications. ofc, anonimously. if you really want to share and reveal the truth about the gov or the army and hit the fan, why not do it properly?


I think he wanted to be a part of it but not a player. By mailing out 100 envelopes in various directions he wouldn't be a part of it. Instead, he went to Coast to Coast who he mentioned he listened to since 2002 and it was also where he heard about the Chad/Tahoe/Capitola/Birmingham/Big Basin drones.

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« Reply #170 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:21am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 10:19am, GForce wrote:
I don't know if it's a hoax or not. But I seriously doubt it's a marketing ploy. If it was then having only UFO forums following it they'd never be able to recoup the money they spent on marketing. This forum has 6000 or so members. Of that I doubt this thread or the news of this object is going to drive anyone to see the movie who already hasn't planned to see it. Same with Halo 3. People will be lined up to buy the game when it comes out. If this is a hoax to market either the movie or game then I'm sure those who worked on it didn't do it for free. Yes I know there's other UFO related forums but even with that it's a poor way to drum up business. When you consider most of those who want to see the movie are either kids or people who are into Sci-Fi. I doubt there's many member here who had not planned to see the movie suddenly have a change of heart because of this topic. I haven't!

You're right about the marketing scheme - although there's a lot of UFOers out there, I don't think there's enough actively involved to generate a reasonable return on investment for something like this...
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« Reply #171 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:22am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 10:20am, Andyp wrote:


Andy, we've already done that at the following address.

For those of you have haven't read the first 33 pages, please do so at the following address as to keep from duplicating previous conversations in this thread. Instead, quote from that thread. This thread is only a continuation of the 33 page thread located below.

Chad/ Big Basin/Tahoe/Capitola/Birmingham drones
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=reports&num=1179108769&start=0

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« Reply #172 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:26am »

I am human and I am prone to misstakes and will make plenty more yet I am for one that seek perfection I dont claim to already have it like you do.you are very questionable like I said the drone is real before I ever herd anything about an Isaac he and others that are 100%sure just confirmed what I know to be true besides it want be the first time Ihave been wrong nor the last her on earth show me any thing that ,s man or woman made iswithout flaw. grin NO LISTEN TO BJ <IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT SOME ONE EALSE POST YOU DONT HAVE TO POST BEHIND THEM.
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« Reply #173 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:29am »

This story could be very true. But anytime you want to stay out of the picture you must leave out details. Even if you lie about things those in the know can back track the lie and figure you out.
I just hope this guy is telling the truth. I also would like him to get his butt to disclosure project where they can help protect him.
I did find out yesterday that what he is saying about the symbols on the craft are very true.
It has been brought to my attention these symbols were on the craft that crashed 40 miles north of Roswell NM The symbols you have seen on TV are not the symbols actually found on the Roswell craft. The real symbols match those on the strange object in question. So no. I am not trying to debunk this at all and I have 30 group members working on this 24 -7
I should know more today or at least by Saturday.
I was pointing out he should have never talked about hisself at all if he wanted to stay behind the scenes.
This man is in danger I feel and I hope he gets to those who can protect him, and get his evidence duplicated and out in public view. This is huge the way it is comming together.
Remember I am not saying this story is real. But also the symbols like I said do match those on a recovered disk found 40 miles from Roswell.
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« Reply #174 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:35am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 10:21am, 5150 wrote:
You're right about the marketing scheme - although there's a lot of UFOers out there, I don't think there's enough actively involved to generate a reasonable return on investment for something like this...


Okay, but how much investment would actually be involved? Other than the creation of the actual documents and images (which would be, it seems, fairly easy and inexpensive to do for a small group of professionals paid by a studio or software company), the whole project is fairly low-tech and low-cost. Isaac's material is up on a free host. Everything has been disseminated through Coast to Coast, for free. It seems a small initial investment for a fairly big word-of-mouth payoff -- this "campaign" has spread far beyond UFO boards, my friends. I found it because its all over the internet -- and I in no way seek this kind of stuff out.

And honestly, I for one will be, as I said before, fairly impressed if it does turn out to be a marketing campaign. Though I don't like being fooled, I can appreciate what a smart move it was on their part in terms of getting people's minds focused on the subject of Aliens and UFOs and extraterrestrial technology prior to the release of their product. The simple fact that I am here with all of you debating the subject and reading all I can about it is evidence that their scheme worked.

Again, would I rather it were true? Hell yeah. I mean, how cool would that be? But after reviewing everything out there I can get my hands (err, eyes?) on about this, do I actually think it holds up to scrutiny? Sorry, but no. sad

Oh and Hi MarkM, and everybody. Y'all seem like good people.
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« Reply #175 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:38am »

Hey darkdragon the writing is non other than a modified wring of Hieroglyphics if not the ezact same. lipsrsealed
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« Reply #176 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:38am »

One thing that keeps coming to mind as well is that next weekend is the 60th anniversary of the Roswell crash (and all the hoopla that will surround it). I wonder if this event might offer an opportunity to introduce this new craft, provided someone shares this info with a sharp (and daring) reporter. Provided, that is, that the mystery remains next weekend!

On a side note, some of our members are from other counties and I think what might - at first glance - look like lazy typing or poor English, is the real reason behind their writing "style". Just a thought smiley.
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« Reply #177 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:40am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 10:35am, spiffy wrote:
Okay, but how much investment would actually be involved? Other than the creation of the actual documents and images (which would be, it seems, fairly easy and inexpensive to do for a small group of professionals paid by a studio or software company), the whole project is fairly low-tech and low-cost. Isaac's material is up on a free host. Everything has been disseminated through Coast to Coast, for free. It seems a small initial investment for a fairly big word-of-mouth payoff -- this "campaign" has spread far beyond UFO boards, my friends. I found it because its all over the internet -- and I in no way seek this kind of stuff out.

And honestly, I for one will be, as I said before, fairly impressed if it does turn out to be a marketing campaign. Though I don't like being fooled, I can appreciate what a smart move it was on their part in terms of getting people's minds focused on the subject of Aliens and UFOs and extraterrestrial technology prior to the release of their product. The simple fact that I am here with all of you debating the subject and reading all I can about it is evidence that their scheme worked.

Again, would I rather it were true? Hell yeah. I mean, how cool would that be? But after reviewing everything out there I can get my hands (err, eyes?) on about this, do I actually think it holds up to scrutiny? Sorry, but no. sad

Oh and Hi MarkM, and everybody. Y'all seem like good people.


If we're talking about marketing for Transformers, then I don't see why any cost, either low or high, would matter. Do they really need to bother with something like this to build up hype for the movie? Seems like a waste of time and energy for a sure blockbuster.

Interestingly enough, if not for other people in this forum stating that it's a Transformers ploy I NEVER would have thought of that connection...maybe those who brought it up are part of the scheme...haha!
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« Reply #178 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:42am »

At any rate, I just emailed PARC...probably a waste of time, but what the heck right?
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« Reply #179 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 10:44am »

Spiffy, you are correct We are trying to process this new story piece by piece to see if it all fits. This is in no way shape or form SOLVED wrong word for the thread. But it is an attention getter. We have people in the field right now collecting data. Let us see what they come up with. If everything checks out in his story. We may have found the smoking gun. However I say we need to down one of these units. Shotgun blast or by any other means we need to capture one of these. There are still many questions un answered. Lets play it out and see what we find out.

I agree with you. SOLVED it is no way been solved.
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