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« Reply #195 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:15am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 11:07am, Latitude wrote:
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Rock on indeed. I was totally surprised that name was available.

I know they're up there and always have been but, dang it, I still want to see one with my own eyes...haha. But then what would I do...come here and have people pick apart my story until I'm accused of being in league with Michael Bay??
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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #196 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:16am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 11:05am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
But, don't forget how HALO3 benefited from using the drone pictures and our own website.

I know they did that on purpose because they're ad people know how to generate Google ads with your name one it - replacing the previous ad. They have all the tricks.

It had to have driven people to their site in droves based on Google ads prompted by a forum member simply typing the word HALO or HALO3 in a post. If Google has an advertiser who's name matches a type written work in a post, the Google ad then changes from whatever it was to the word HALO3 since that's how that ad program works and HALO3 sold many more games because of it.

I'm sure they picked forums to their liking to do that in. We have a lot of members that are gamers due to the age bracket in here.

On that note, just think about how many times someone over the last 3 days has typed in google "CARET" and "Isaac". Tons and tons and all of those people clicked on the Isaac Newton website. That website can probably say that they've received something upwards of 200,000 clicks in the past two days considering what ours is for a given day these past two days.

What those clicks do are generate advertising rates. The more clicks, the more you charge for advertising.







I sort of hate to admit this but I play Halo. I have both Halo 1 & 2. Along with 4 X-Box's and 4 televisions in my game room. I also have 2 X-Box 360's. But if Halo 3 has sold more units because of forums then it would have to be in pre-orders since its not out yet. Sorry I've got my preorders in.
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« Reply #197 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:20am »

Isaac stated:
"I am also trying to get in touch with the witnesses so far, such as Chad, Rajman, Jenna, Ty, and the Lake Tahoe witness (especially Chad). I have advice for them that may be somewhat helpful in dealing with what they've seen and what I would recommend they do with what they know. If you are one of these witnesses, or can put me in touch with them, please contact Coast to Coast AM and let them know."

What do we know from this statement?

1. C2C knows how to contact him.

2. He is willing to speak to the witnesses and give them info not provided on his website. In fact, by this time he may already have done so.

3. If he is willing to talk to the other witnesses and C2C has his info, you can bet LMH has been in contact with him.

Tonight LMH gives her update on this whole thing. I expect a great deal of new information to be provided tonight. The kind of things I expect to hear are that he has been in contact with some of the witnesses and we may learn what he told them. We may learn that he has provided further evidence to LMH for her review and future release. We will probably find out that LMH has had other "experts" give their opinion of the Isaac material. We may even hear an interview with Isaac, voice obscured I'd hope, or at least plans for one.

I expect the whole thing to get a second wind tomorrow with, I hope, a bunch of new info to discuss.
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« Reply #198 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:20am »

you people have to understand one thing.
its not expensive to advertise like this.
it is done on itself if the quality of the story is above average.

its about a million monkeys at a million keyboards.
copy paste the link, it spreads by itself.
you dont need to post it on 1,000 websites.
its enough just one.

its marketing for Transformers.
and if its not, its a designer looking for a job smiley
but is still marketing and is money related.

get that pls, and get back to work.
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« Reply #199 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:22am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 10:53am, GForce wrote:
Bingo! It would be a waste of time! They are spending millions promoting it on television. That reaches millions of potential movie customers. Especially kids who would want to watch it. Why WASTE your time and money with online forums?


1. It isn't/wasn't a waste. Again, I'm proof of that (having never visited a UFO-related forum in my 30-something life before yesterday).

2. It isn't just forums. Again, this has spread out into the internet (and let's not forget: on the radio!) far beyond these forums. People are taking notice. ALL ACCORDING TO THEIR FIENDISH MARKETING PLAN! heh.
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« Reply #200 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:28am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 11:13am, Vel wrote:
Just an FYI guys, I found this post over on Digg.com ont he story about this stuff..

"Ah, another submission protected by a moderator. I posted a comment about how these pictures have been posted before, and then the images still had the Photoshop EXIF information embedded. I checked one of the images now, and it seems the guys spreading this have wizened up enough to strip the EXIF info from the images now. And that post got deleted by a moderator. As this apparently is a viral marketing campaign for Halo, I kindof wonder if Digg is being paid? Still the same tired old fake, though. Fake fakity fake fake."


I didn't understand anything you stated here. I haven't removed your thread yet. I said I was because it is duplicated three times and you can if you wish continue posting in the thread that pertains to what it is your thread was about, which is at this address.

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1182283823

Like me, that moderator knows how things work and knows that HALO3 was just doing an ad gimmic as explained in a previous post here.

To prove my point, I just did the same thing and changed my signature to include History Channel DVD's that the UFO Casebook sells in order to pay for their website and forum.

If you were to take a look at the UFO Casebook website, what you find lacking is advertising. Our webmaster does not make enough money to survive on from this website. He actually has a regular job in order to be able to do so.

There's no funny business in removing the HALO thing by that moderator, the gig's just up is all and they know this. There is no coorrelation between HALO and the drones except that they got the UFO forum members going into their website, creating for more customers for them and selling more games and that's all it was.

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« Reply #201 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:30am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 11:22am, spiffy wrote:
1. It isn't/wasn't a waste. Again, I'm proof of that (having never visited a UFO-related forum in my 30-something life before yesterday).

2. It isn't just forums. Again, this has spread out into the internet (and let's not forget: on the radio!) far beyond these forums. People are taking notice. ALL ACCORDING TO THEIR FIENDISH MARKETING PLAN! heh.


You're only proof of that if you go see the movie because of this aleged marketing scheme. Even if it is a marketing scheme, I still say it's a waste. This audience they've target is about 98% likely to see the Transformers movie without any of this added hype and speculation. They're preaching to the choir...they should start a hoax in a market they need to get, not one they dominate.

Also, corporations are not lax with their money and how it's spent - how are they going to pin point the effectiveness of this specific stratagem to determine it's value? Are they going to pole people outside the theater? "Did you see Transformers because of the drone hoax?"
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« Reply #202 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:32am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 11:22am, spiffy wrote:
It isn't just forums. Again, this has spread out into the internet (and let's not forget: on the radio!) far beyond these forums. People are taking notice. ALL ACCORDING TO THEIR FIENDISH MARKETING PLAN! heh.


That is exactly what we want though as well. All Ufologist want as much ink as we can get right now. They want disclosure from our government.

This forum address has been delivered to many news services of all shapes and kinds for just that reason. The UFO community wants disclosure and what better way to get it then to start a big stink.

It's unfortunate that there are possibities of a viral marketing campaign but the UFO community must take this chance because they may never get another one.

Meanwhile, and to date, there is not one single bit of proof yet that this could be a viral marketing campaign, no more then there is any proof that the evidence received from Isaac is authentic.




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« Reply #203 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:36am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 11:20am, mimimi wrote:
you people have to understand one thing.
its not expensive to advertise like this.
it is done on itself if the quality of the story is above average.

its about a million monkeys at a million keyboards.
copy paste the link, it spreads by itself.
you dont need to post it on 1,000 websites.
its enough just one.

its marketing for Transformers.
and if its not, its a designer looking for a job smiley
but is still marketing and is money related.

get that pls, and get back to work.


It's often said the proof is in the pudding! Well I don't see any pudding here not even jello. What I do see and read a lot of is opinions. Nothing more! If this is a marketing ploy then somewhere there's proof. Find it! Show me! I'd love to see the evidence. It may very well be a hoax. But until then I'll keep an open mind.

As far as getting to work goes I'm retired! I retired at 38 so I can keep at this all day or until I decide to go fishing! wink
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« Reply #204 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:36am »

I agree, easy to spread once it's created. As someone who has spent over two decades in graphic design and marketing, with high profile clients in my portfolio, to conceive, design and execute this project is going to cost you. Then there's - as I mentioned before - the not unsubstantial risk to my reputation and credibility if this thing bites me in the butt! So, I'm either a good part of someones add budget or an evil genius with plenty of free time. The UFO community does not fit the target market for either of the "products" that we're discussing. Marginal overlap, but not enough to warrant this kind of effort.

(Please insert the obligatory disclaimer - but, i could be wrong smiley)
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« Reply #205 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:36am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 11:32am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Meanwhile, and to date, there is not one single bit of proof yet that this could be a viral marketing campaign, no more then there is any proof that the evidence received from Isaac is authentic.





Boy, that's depressing. So in 14 pages of debate we're still clueless...haha.
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« Reply #206 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:37am »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 8:50pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Isn't that what you would be doing today if you were Isaac?

Sure, there are stories of some who have mysteriously died however those in question died before ever giving anyone what it was they had. I'm speaking of the conspiracy theories of Lear, Mack, and Schneider.

Isaac, don't worry. This has been done before and nothing happened to those people who fessed up. Just ask Stephen Greer about his infamous 400.

Oh, I do want to ask Isaac a question if he's reading. Why did you choose Isaac? You thought I was going to ask you for more info didn't you? That will be your decision, which now you have to think about. Do you really want to hang onto documentation that has not been released?


I'm thinking maybe the PTB have adopted different methods nowadays. Back in the day, if they did not like what you were saying you would end up buzzard food out in the desert. Today there is no need for such extreme measures. With the changes in society these things take care of themselves. You can see it for yourself. It's happening right now. With the advent of CGI, viral marketing and hoaxes no ufo sighting is taken seriously any more. Even the UFO community is quick to dismiss seemingly legitimate cases. The general public is even more skeptical.

So Isaac does not have to worry about being taken out by the MIB. The PTB don't care about him at all. They already have their tools in place. They control the media and the rest is handled by CGI and debunkery.
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« Reply #207 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:40am »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 11:20am, WatchingWaiting wrote:
What do we know from this statement?
1. C2C knows how to contact him.
2. He is willing to speak to the witnesses and give them info not provided on his website. In fact, by this time he may already have done so.
3. If he is willing to talk to the other witnesses and C2C has his info, you can bet LMH has been in contact with him.


When I read his statement on that I thought two things. The first is that he wants to talk to them about either radiation, microwaves or lack of, which were the fears of three of them. Secondly, I thought we haven't heard the last from Isaac because that let me know that he's still wanting to put more then his toes in the water.

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« Reply #208 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:40am »

Well here's the Halo 3 viral marketing site:

http://www.societyoftheancients.com/links.html

Other than being about UFOs I don't see much direct connection to the drones/probes or Isaac material.
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« Reply #209 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 11:41am »

Hi guys & girls, I've been lurking the forums for a while now.

1. I haven't seen the transformers movie yet, but on their official website there's no similarities of design and the trailer also doesn't show any similar features in sfx & stuff. As some of you said, it is ridiculous to continue debating this possibility.

2. The primers really seem too detailed for that time. How exactly did they get those beautiful pictograms into the document in the 80s?

3. So, if I understood it correctly, somebody talented enough could, with the help of the primers, solve some of the alien language, provided that it is authentic?
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