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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #240 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 12:57pm »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 12:53pm, JC wrote:
Want to meet them? Its very simple.
If you think you are ready to except them then all you have to do is ask. Its that simple they will hear you and come. They are on many different levels and will hear your call. But don't call them if you can't deal with meeting intelligent Beings. Enough said.


I wouldn't advise it though. They can be all consuming at times and there can be a lot of physical pain that doesn't subside until they leave.

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« Reply #241 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 12:59pm »



Being a contactee is not a walk in the park.

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« Reply #242 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 12:59pm »

HEY JLC767, LATITUDE, J.C;I and you and afew others are thinking the same way about this craft, CAN you amagine if we had half that much more i wonder what that mite do to us. not to say that we the human race are dumd by far, but you have to admite that Et have such high interlect IT is not at all simple, so amagine what the goverments of this world is going thru with ET. wink
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« Reply #243 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 12:59pm »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 12:49pm, mimimi wrote:
i bet that there's a lot of people in disguise here that just keep on the fire burning.

dude, you have no argument. its that simple.
you have to have the same color both in the holes and both outside the page. either black or white it does not matter.

you cant have black holes and white exterior
or
you cant have white holes and black exterior

just go and scan again and see for yourself.
i dont care its about 15,000 scanning machines.
the crop was not use here. because you can actually see the exterior of the page.


Actually, you're absolutely right. Imagine a guy on a forum admitting being wrong! My brain didn't process that you were talking about the differences between the outside of the paper and the holes and not just the holes. In addition, I was a little surprised that a $15,000machine still produced black holes even with the lid shut...
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« Reply #244 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 1:04pm »

Well here's my response from PARC:

Dear Mr. Haley,

I'm sorry but no one here has any information on CARET.

Best Regards,

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« Reply #245 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 1:09pm »

JC you are correct just call . ato you seem to have contac with them you also seem to know so much about them tell us what it is . i am listening. grin
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« Reply #246 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 1:13pm »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 1:04pm, 5150 wrote:
Well here's my response from PARC:

Dear Mr. Haley,

I'm sorry but no one here has any information on CARET.

Best Regards,

Mimi Gardner
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Mimi? You going to believe her? Didn't you know she's on this board trying to convince us it's all viral marketing? wink


on Jun 28th, 2007, 11:20am, mimimi wrote:
you people have to understand one thing.
its not expensive to advertise like this.
it is done on itself if the quality of the story is above average.

its about a million monkeys at a million keyboards.
copy paste the link, it spreads by itself.
you dont need to post it on 1,000 websites.
its enough just one.

its marketing for Transformers.
and if its not, its a designer looking for a job smiley
but is still marketing and is money related.

get that pls, and get back to work.
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« Reply #247 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 1:14pm »

I have been reading this sight for a few days and here are a couple of things I have been thinking about. It seems like some people might want to group all of the informations relating to the drones including the photos, movies, and documents from Isaac as being 100% true or 100% false. I think as always, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

One problem I have had with the photos of the drones is the sharpness of the images and how difficult it is to really understand what is the scale of these objects. If you take picture of a plane or a helicopter the the pictures are never this sharp. I think that is strange.

It is also weird that so many different people have had eye witness accounts of seeing the drones. We are gettting alot of information from alot of different sources that more or less corroborate one another. So I think that some one has to put together a website where each photo can be examined and evaluated individually.

The sharpness of the photo could result from at least two reasons:

1. It's hoax and the images were generated on comptuer.

2. If the drones do operate in an electromagnetic field could that somehow sharpen the images.

Everyone knows that further something is away the blurrier it gets, that does not seem to be the case with these images.

In Isaac's report, I think that it is strange that the word Extra Terrestrial is on the very front page. Maybe the military has so many accronyms that even they have a hard time keeping track and they need to be reminded on the front cover. That's my opinion.

I did, however, find the text compelling. If what he is saying is true, I thought that the text was written in a way to convey these ideas to the military. And let's be honest, these ideas are really out there, excuse the pun.

I found that the documents were reasonably consistent even though I am no expert and am being exposed to these ideas for the first time like everyone else.

I think it might be helpful to imagine some different scenario's that might help broaden this discussion. What if some of the information is true and some of it is false? How do we decide?

What if the drone pictures and the movies are faked but, in a weird synchonicity, it sort of resembled the work being done in a military lab in Palo Alto in the eighties? And then what if the some of the stories of the eye witnesses are true? How would we know?

I think it is very difficult to guess the motivations of everyone involved with contributing "evidence" to this discussion.

One thing we know about Isaac is that either he put the original report together or had access to the raw materials. This easy because the clear photo scans match the pictures of the report.

The technology and the "language" he describes is strange, but there have been reports of writing on UFO's since Roswell. It just that the writing never made any sense to us. More importantly, the reason of the writing never made any sense to us.

Perhaps if it is a programming language and not a sign or some kind of story, it is slowly beginning to make sense of what we are dealing with and why it kept turning up.

It is strange that we have not seen these kind of craft until recently and then all of a sudden the flood gates have been open. I know there was a case in 1995 but still it seems like all of a sudden we have become saturated.

I think that we are dealing with alot of information and alot of disinformation. Someone has to figure out a clever way to seperate the wheat from the chaff so to speak.

Has anyone asked Stan Friedman what he thinks?



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« Reply #248 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 1:15pm »

Not to sound pretentious but the transformer issue (even if real) is not a show stopper ....there's still the big picture of ufo and ET events occuring daily across the globe as reported on this and other websites. Meanwhile, this show should be played out as it is being done until a definite end point comes.

Fortunately, or unfortunately, the Isaac event makes it difficult to just drop the ball and walk away.

Isaac qnd Transformer don't appear to quite match. Isaac's tone (positive, universal, matter of fact, tho overlaid by human secrecy, and some fear exhibited by his superiors) doesn't link with the malevolence of Transformer. Maybe I don't know enough about Trasformer yet.

There seems to be a lot of beneficial self education going on here that will spill over to other ufo issues- fine tuning of sleuthing and development of mental attitude about evidence.

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« Reply #249 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 1:16pm »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 1:13pm, Latitude wrote:
Mimi? You going to believe her? Didn't you know she's on this board trying to convince us it's all viral marketing? wink




I though the same thing laugh
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« Reply #250 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 1:23pm »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 1:14pm, Outthere wrote:
I think it might be helpful to imagine some different scenario's that might help broaden this discussion. What if some of the information is true and some of it is false? How do we decide?

Good point. In fact, I've been thinking that if I was forced to choose an absolute true/false in this I would say that the Chad/Raj drones are false and the Isaac information is true. My gut tells me that Isaac came forth because of the Chad/Raj pictures but that they are not real or actually linked to the Isaac technology. Then again, my gut had several beers last night.
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« Reply #251 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 1:25pm »

This is a fascinating case. The coincidences that one would have to sweep under the rug to comfortably rule this all a hoax are staggering.

One person here was saying in another post that the photo copied docs are too good a quality for copiers of that time. He neglected to read that the DOD snitch said he took some original documents and original photos. Some of that is what he furnished. Problem solved.

My gut feeling is that the DOD snitch's story is true and his ducuments are authentic.

I also believe that the numerous photos taken by different people and in different places are real. Try to fake a UFO picture where it is above a telephone pole.
Good luck with that.

Also the writing symbols on several of the craft photos clearly seem to be the same type of symbols in the DOD snitch's documents. One of the snitch drawings shows the exact same 6 pronged piece that appears on some of the craft photos.

Too many people have come forward with sighting reports and many with pictures for it to be a hoax. The objects in each sighting are very similar and yet slightly different.

The logical conclusion with all the photos, testimonials and the DOD snitch report, is that people are seeing these things just as they have described and that the snitch report is true. That's my take.

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« Reply #252 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 1:26pm »

HEY OUTTHERE; I have said this all alone ; now you could be right about stan friedman; my opion on stan is he is a double agent in the ufo field. wink
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« Reply #253 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 1:29pm »

I want to start this post by stating that we need to treat this as hoax or not hoax. Prove or disprove it, but don't try to assign a reason for a hoax then look for evidence to support the reason. Let the evidence stand for itself. For what it is worth, I do not think this is a marketing gimmick for anyone or anything. I won't post what I really think about the Transformer/H.A.L.O. theory. Suffice it to say it would be a crazed rant against it.

If "Isaac" had just come out of nowhere with his story and documents, the hoax theory would have more weight.

This is not what happened. "Isaac" released his info in RESPONSE to numerous recent sightings and photos. I put together a simple time line of witness reports and how many people saw the "drones".

1987 - Barksdale AFB, Louisiana - 1 person
Witness states: "The Birmingham photo appears to be REAL. In addition, it EXACTLY MATCHES the unit I saw on display at the Barksdale Air Show as discussed above."

October 1995 - Sitgreaves National Forest, Arizona - 1 person

May 2005 - Sequoia National Park, CA - 2 people

May 2006 - Birmingham, Alabama - 1 person

June 10, 2006 - Yosemite National Park, CA - 3 people

May 5, 2007 - Lake Tahoe, CA - 2 people

May 6, 2007 - Central California - 1 person

May 16, 2007 - Capitola, CA - 4 people

June 5, 2007 - Big Basin State Park, CA - 1 person

June 5, 2007 - Big Basin State Park, CA - 8 people

June 26, 2007 - Isaac Report

The earliest reported sighting was the 1987 Barksdale AFB hanger encounter. That witness reported:

"There was even a brochure, but I recall only that I may
have picked it up briefly and looked at it, then put it
back down. It had an artist's rendering of the unit on
display. Unfortunately, I don't have the brochure.

I don't remember what the thing was called, but it was
some kind of surveillance or intelligence gathering
drone."

PACL Q4-86 Report p2 lists one of the four key subjects studied in that quarter as "three dimensional image recorder/projector"

This is in line with the "brochure" listing the hanger object's use as an intelligence gathering drone, thus tying the earliest reported sighting to the most recent documents. That sighting is also contemporaneous with the Isaac report.

If you assume this to be a hoax then you must assume that the 24 reported witnesses prior to the "Isaac" report are either:

1. All the same person. LMH has spoken with men and women so this cannot be the case.

2. Are all in league with each other. During LMH's interviews and research she has obtained their locations. In order for this to be a hoax requires the geographically disparate individuals to be known to each other or their locations also hoaxed/spoofed. Possible I suppose.

3. Are individual hoaxers expanding on each others hoaxed sightings. If this is the case, why the different versions of the craft? Even the known CGI hoaxers just recreated the reported craft. They did not vary or expand on the design as is shown in the various photos. I find this option very unlikely.

I personally do not think this is a hoax. However that does not mean that I am not still looking at this with a critical eye.

A few quotes from the (fictitious? wrong thread for that discussion) man we are all trying to emulate right now, Sherlock Holmes.

"Detection is, or ought to be, an exact science and should be treated in the same cold and unemotional manner."

"There are no better instruments than discharged servants with a grievance, and I was lucky enough to find one."

"We must look for consistency. Where there is want of it we must suspect deception."

"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

"Never trust to general impressions, my boy, but concentrate yourself upon details."

"Crime is common. Logic is rare. Therefore it is upon the logic rather than upon the crime that you should dwell."

"What do the public, the great unobservant public, who could hardly tell a weaver by his tooth or a compositor by his left thumb, care about the finer shades of analysis and deduction!"

"There is no branch of detective science which is so important and so much neglected as the art of tracing footsteps."

"Where a crime is coolly premeditated, then the means of coverting it are coolly premeditated also."

And a final quote for all of us Sherlocks

"The faculty of deduction is certainly contagious."
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« Reply #254 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 1:30pm »

I have never heard that Stan Friedman might double. I have always thought that he has surprisingly clear mind about all of this and reaches his own conclusions in his own time.

Out of my ignorance, why woud the government want somebody like him anyway?
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