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« Reply #270 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:13pm »

I've been looking at the PACL Q3-85 Inventory Review p56 image. This may be obvious to some but I thought I'd point out some observations about it.

First of all the image was rotated prior to the numbers being placed on the objects. To view the image as it was taken it needs to be rotated clockwise.

The objects are on a large paved area like a tarmac. Notice the "pothole" near object 16.

There are tire tracks near object 13. Using an estimate of 6 feet between tires we can estimate the size of the objects. Ford F-150 trucks have a width of 6.5 ft and Ford Taurus have width of 6.2 ft, so 6 ft should be a conservative number.

Using that info:

Object 13 = approx 21 ft diameter
Object 14a = approx 42 ft diameter
Object 14b = approx 60 ft diameter
Object 15 = approx 27 ft wide
Object 16 = approx 90 ft diameter

These are VERY rough estimates that are very likely low. I did not take time for more precise measurements.
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« Reply #271 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:18pm »

Wow. Now that's some great analysis WW. Thanks, I'm going to go revisit that image.
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« Reply #272 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:20pm »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 1:14pm, Outthere wrote:
I have been reading this sight for a few days and here are a couple of things I have been thinking about. It seems like some people might want to group all of the informations relating to the drones including the photos, movies, and documents from Isaac as being 100% true or 100% false. I think as always, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

One problem I have had with the photos of the drones is the sharpness of the images and how difficult it is to really understand what is the scale of these objects. If you take picture of a plane or a helicopter the the pictures are never this sharp. I think that is strange.

It is also weird that so many different people have had eye witness accounts of seeing the drones. We are gettting alot of information from alot of different sources that more or less corroborate one another. So I think that some one has to put together a website where each photo can be examined and evaluated individually.

The sharpness of the photo could result from at least two reasons:

1. It's hoax and the images were generated on comptuer.

2. If the drones do operate in an electromagnetic field could that somehow sharpen the images.

Everyone knows that further something is away the blurrier it gets, that does not seem to be the case with these images.

In Isaac's report, I think that it is strange that the word Extra Terrestrial is on the very front page. Maybe the military has so many accronyms that even they have a hard time keeping track and they need to be reminded on the front cover. That's my opinion.

I did, however, find the text compelling. If what he is saying is true, I thought that the text was written in a way to convey these ideas to the military. And let's be honest, these ideas are really out there, excuse the pun.

I found that the documents were reasonably consistent even though I am no expert and am being exposed to these ideas for the first time like everyone else.

I think it might be helpful to imagine some different scenario's that might help broaden this discussion. What if some of the information is true and some of it is false? How do we decide?

What if the drone pictures and the movies are faked but, in a weird synchonicity, it sort of resembled the work being done in a military lab in Palo Alto in the eighties? And then what if the some of the stories of the eye witnesses are true? How would we know?

I think it is very difficult to guess the motivations of everyone involved with contributing "evidence" to this discussion.

One thing we know about Isaac is that either he put the original report together or had access to the raw materials. This easy because the clear photo scans match the pictures of the report.

The technology and the "language" he describes is strange, but there have been reports of writing on UFO's since Roswell. It just that the writing never made any sense to us. More importantly, the reason of the writing never made any sense to us.

Perhaps if it is a programming language and not a sign or some kind of story, it is slowly beginning to make sense of what we are dealing with and why it kept turning up.

It is strange that we have not seen these kind of craft until recently and then all of a sudden the flood gates have been open. I know there was a case in 1995 but still it seems like all of a sudden we have become saturated.

I think that we are dealing with alot of information and alot of disinformation. Someone has to figure out a clever way to seperate the wheat from the chaff so to speak.

Has anyone asked Stan Friedman what he thinks?


This i VERY interesting guys. Pay attention for what is comming (:
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« Reply #273 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:23pm »


WatchingWaiting,

Can you post the picture, or could you at least post the link the photo that you are looking at?
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« Reply #274 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:23pm »

When I first saw this whole thing on C2C I was in awe. The more I read if Isaac's letter the more I got sucked in. But then, then I saw them. Those symbols on that diagram. Beautiful is the only way to describe them. I don't think that humans have the ability to create something so complex like that. I mean, if you look closely there are symbols within symbols within symbols. And Isaac's explanation as to what they were and how they work is just to believable for me to dismiss. They essentially look like functional art. Like a machine of gears and belts but beautifully put together.
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« Reply #275 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:32pm »


I found the image.

Sometimes it is so hard to find the things that are right in front of you. smiley

WatchingWaiting, you might be right about the scale but I thought the grid in the background was floor tiles. I did not think that they would be sitting outside on a tarmac or something.

If they are that big, do think that are segments of a UFO? Just laid side by side and not stacked up.

If that is the case it does fit with what Isaac said in his story,but who knows?

I thought it was interesting in the report that it said that engines were so heavy that no aircraft could support them until they were turned on.
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« Reply #276 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:34pm »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 2:29pm, jlc767 wrote:
do you think the government (or whoever) would let a pot-hole THAT big develop and get that out of control? I think not. That pot-hole would stop a tractor trailer!pronto.


Are you kidding - you should see my street!!!!! LOL

I'd like to know what this paper says:
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« Reply #277 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:35pm »

NOTE ON SIZE: If this is average size document paper, that effects the size estimate.
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« Reply #278 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:38pm »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 1:57pm, MarkM wrote:
Isaac states that the linguistics or symbols function as both the program and the execution / manifestation of the "command". Think about crop circles for a moment. If they are also a form of linguistics (uncanny resemblance to the Isaac symbols), what might they be interfacing with? The brain is basically a bio-computer (wild, I warned you). Might these symbols be a "trigger" of sorts.


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Symbols have been used since the dawn of time to trigger a response. How did you react when you first saw the Isaac symbols? What emotional response did they trigger in YOU? I'd love to get an honest take on this - regardless of what you believe their origin to be. My response: these are beautiful (and I can expound on that).


I responded with WOW and WOW, you're right, symbols do trigger the response in the brain.

Gee, maybe ET's raising us right now. lol

That's true though because everything that has to do with the senses makes us what we are and a lot of it comes directly from the eye (sight).

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« Reply #279 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:40pm »

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I'd like to know what this paper says...


That's a stretch.
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« Reply #280 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:41pm »

As far as their size being too huge to do anything, re-read section 4.1 of the PACL Q4-86 Report p3. It specifically mentions "enormous form factors and impractical weights."
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« Reply #281 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:50pm »

To explain how I came up with the sizes, I did it the quick and dirty way. I could spend time measuring pixels, etc, but I think I'll let someone else do that. I put it out there as a starting point.

Use the hires version.

Take a piece of paper and make a mark noting each tire track.

Now start at one side of an object, place your mark on the edge, make a note of where the second mark is, move 1st mark to 2nd mark's location and repeat.

Don't forget to count.

Multiply x 6.

Individual results may vary.

I know it is a very crude method, but anyone can do it without using a graphics program or printing it out.

btw, as far as the pothole, it could also be an oil stain that did not stick to the painted stripe. There appear to be similar "stains" near 14b.
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« Reply #282 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:51pm »


Looking at the same image. I think that what you are referring to as the pot hole is in the lower right of the image.

Why does the line cross directly over the "pot hole" and not get really jagged or curved as would happen if you painted a line on a street with pot holes.

The other option that the line is hanging in the air or was added later does not make sense either because in both cases the it should be on top of the largest element, number 16.

I am not sure how what the solution might be. Maybe somebody sees something else.
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« Reply #283 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:53pm »

Good call on the line being over the pot-hole. Odd. Something is definitely amiss with that line.
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« Reply #284 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 2:54pm »

on Jun 28th, 2007, 2:29pm, jlc767 wrote:
2. Why are the concrete slabs (tarmac or whatever) to the left of the white line half the width of the slabs to the right? Trivial, I know, but I gotta ask.


Could the white line be one of an airfield?
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