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« Reply #30 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 10:30am »

My gut feeling is this is real. I hope there will be more to follow. I can also appreciate the "mind blowing" aspect to being told this information. Very interesting - I will have to read it several times to chew on it.

As far as which UFO Crash it was from - perhaps they were never told. I would think that would probably be something the military would consider they don't have a "need to know".

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« Reply #31 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 10:45am »

The "Isaac" revelations represent, if true, a seminal moment in the history of UFO's. If it is a hoax, it will easily rank right up there with the greatest of all time.

A hoax that allegedly involves multiple independent sightings over a 2 month time frame and includes highly detailed false documents and faked photos is very likely unique in the annals of ufology. We are in the presence of greatness!!
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« Reply #32 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 10:53am »

A quote from PACL Q4-86 Report p3, "Not all recovered extraterrestrial technologies are equal . . . " Certainly implies more than a few have been recovered.

Also from the same doc, "However, since the sudden emergence of such radically advanced technology would undoubtedly yield destructive consequences, PACL recommends a strategy of incremental dissemination in which deliberately downgraded versions of the original technology are released over a period of years or decades to soften the impact of integration with existing infrastructures . . ."

Hmm, deliberately downgraded versions. Makes me wonder if Bill Gates didn't have a mole in PACL!
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« Reply #33 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 10:55am »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 10:45am, solarwind wrote:
A hoax that allegedly involves multiple independent sightings over a 2 month time frame and includes highly detailed false documents and faked photos is very likely unique in the annals of ufology. We are in the presence of greatness!!


Not to mention that the Birmingham sighting was a year prior to Chad's drone in May 2006. If these are hoaxers, then why would they have a year span between hoaxes. Let us also not forget that Birmingham is in Alabama and not California.

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« Reply #34 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 10:55am »

The most glaring improbability in Isaac's story seems to me to be the selection of a research facility in Palo Alto. I suppose it could be done as I am aware of certain CIA false front operations that were similarly situated but the operation he describes seems rather large. Why not just shuttle your employees to a secure location such as happens every day from Vegas to Groom Lake?
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« Reply #35 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 10:58am »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 10:45am, solarwind wrote:
The "Isaac" revelations represent, if true, a seminal moment in the history of UFO's. If it is a hoax, it will easily rank right up there with the greatest of all time.

A hoax that allegedly involves multiple independent sightings over a 2 month time frame and includes highly detailed false documents and faked photos is very likely unique in the annals of ufology. We are in the presence of greatness!!


I will admit at first I thought it was a hoax! And it still MAY be. If so then what solarwind has said would be true. But I will admit after reading and re-reading the documents IT IS PLAUSIBLE THAT IT'S REAL. The one red flag that sticks out to me is how he claims to have removed the documents. That would have to take more guts than sense!

I think it's only fair to take the documents at face value. Meaning believe what they say until they're proved otherwise. Becasue after all we're all looking for the smoking gun and if we debunk everything we see without merit then they'll be fewer people willing to take a chance to expose the truth. Just my two cents! Dan
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« Reply #36 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 10:59am »

Gotta say, also, that the photo of the "antigravity generator" a/k/a A1 is also remarkably cool. Especially the photo that appears to show the two I-beams suspended in air when the device is turned on. And the notion that the anti-gravity generator not only propels the craft, but apparently holds all of its parts together in a highly precise configuration, is highly original

You want to get a feel for the richness of this potential hoax? Examine the symbols in the "Linguistics Analysis Primer" at fullsize. They are absolutely beautiful and captivating in the denseness of the detail. Whoever created these designs had a certain creative genius and waaayyyy to much time on their hands. I've never seen anything quite like them and to create them solely for purposes of an obscure internet hoax is, well, stunning.
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« Reply #37 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 11:12am »

It would be extremely easy to find Abstract / "alien" / Klingon fonts on the internet for free, manipulate them like so... and viola - alien writing. Sure, it looks nice, but I could lay out those glyphs in a matter of minutes. Give me longer and I'll transform them into something that couldn't be traced back to the internet or a particular font.

But, yeah, they look great. tongue

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« Reply #38 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 11:16am »

on Jun 26th, 2007, 11:41pm, chgowriter wrote:
Got another question. On Isaac's "documents" why are there blocks of text blacked out?

Didn't his group write that report? If so, then who blacked out certain lines? I mean, why would you black out parts of your own report? You'd know what was in them.

Usually stuffed is blacked out of once-classified documents that are obtained via the FOIA. If you took the papers directly out of the actual government file, they shouldn't have those blacked-out portions, unless Isaac is being coy with his info, or possibly faking it.

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He says himself that he doesn't want to give all information to us now, so i figure he has blacked them himself, maybe copies of the ones the took, og just blacked the lines in some editor? How should I know. He sounds very credible. but exiting how it turns out.
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« Reply #39 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 11:19am »

He mentions having more information. And the possibility of him leaking it in the future... man, I hope that happens!
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« Reply #40 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 11:21am »

same here..and when he does...........the future's gonna be a white knockle ride
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« Reply #41 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 11:23am »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 10:15am, jlc767 wrote:
A few things...

• I really, really, really want to know the 4th entry on the list.

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/pacl-q486-report-p3-halfsize.jpg

• Also, and maybe it's me, but I'm still troubled by the Big Bason footage. And by troubled I mean concerned that it's a fake...

http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/968/Big_Basin_Chad_UFO_Drone_CGI/

First off, why is there only 20 seconds of footage? I mean, really. It doesn't make sense. If you're in the damn desert with a camcorder in the first place and a UFO or drone pops up out of no where what are the chances of only have 20 seconds of battery life?

But that's not the case; he shuts off the camera (at the end of the movie).

Another thing that bothers me is that the fashion with which the "drone" is filmed doesn't seem realistic. Not to say that there isn't enough movement (I realize the "drone" is close to him), but for some reason it's screaming CG render and I can't place it. I think it's the fact that the camera is fixed on the "drone" and keeps it centered the entire time as it zooms around.

The end of the movie is the icing on the cake for me. 20 seconds of footage and "Chad" decides to stop filming (we physically see when Chad decides to drop his arm from filming and the footage ends). Why? Why on Gods green earth would you put the camera down?

Plus, there's no sound? C'mon!


Did you watch the ENTIRE clip? It clearly states at the end: CGI ANIMATION BIG BASIN CALIFORNIA.
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« Reply #42 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 11:23am »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 10:55am, solarwind wrote:
The most glaring improbability in Isaac's story seems to me to be the selection of a research facility in Palo Alto.


I questioned that also in my mind. I knew that Palo Alto was in the Silicon Valley and so I researched a few things this morning. Besides what I found, there are other locations in near proximity to Palo Alto that would have crossed over in regard to the work that was being done in Palo Alto.

What I found in Wikipedia was the following.

Roots in radio and military technology
The San Francisco Bay Area had long been a major site of U.S. Navy research and technology. In 1909, Charles Herrold started the first radio station in the United States with regularly scheduled programming in San Jose. Later that year, Stanford University graduate Cyril Elwell purchased the U.S. patents for Poulsen arc radio transmission technology and founded the Federal Telegraph Corporation (FTC) in Palo Alto. Over the next decade, the FTC created the world's first global radio communication system, and signed a contract with the U.S. Navy in 1912 PDF (90.0 KiB).

In 1933, Air Base Sunnyvale, Cal. was commissioned by the United States Government for the use as a Naval Air Station (NAS). The station was renamed NAS Moffett Field, and between 1933 and 1947, US Navy blimps were based here. A number of technology firms had set up shop in the area around Moffett to serve the Navy. When the Navy gave up it's airship ambitions and moved most of its West Coast operations to San Diego, NACA (the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, forerunner of NASA) took over portions of Moffett for aeronautics research. Many of the original companies stayed, while new ones moved in. The immediate area was soon filled with aerospace firms such as Lockheed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley

In the Silicon Valley alone, Lockheed for instance has three facilities. Two in Palo Alto and one in Sunnyvale. All three have NASA affiliation, hence government affiliation.

I suspect Lockheed as a current day location for such drones or maybe just the hardware due to their numerous unmanned vehicles they have already created.

The fiscal 2007 Pentagon budget unveiled Monday proposes boosting spending on unmanned aircraft to $1.7 billion next year. Lockheed's focus on drones comes after years of wrestling over developing unmanned planes for fear of undermining its franchise business in fighter jets. The company now feels both more secure about funding for its fighter programs and more compelled to jump on the multibillion-dollar drone bandwagon.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06038/651627.stm

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« Reply #43 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 11:30am »

Interesting similarities:
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I see several patterns in this diagram.
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« Reply #44 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 11:33am »

before anyone allows their heartbeat to accelerate beyond what is healthy given their age, weight, and family heritage, stop and think for 30 seconds.. why is this info placed in a forum? is it to tell us "THEY'RE HERE"? or, "THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOREVER"? i dont know what any of this is and it really doesn't matter what anyone in this forum thinks this is.. what matters is, what would engineers and designers of advanced electrical and aerospace systems think of this? if this were something that it appears to be, and if it belonged to me, i wouldn't post it in a forum.. i would either ask a trusted person with electrical engineering or aircraft design expertise to analyze and offer his/her conclusions as to what it is, whether it is innovative or derivative, and whether it is familiar or unknown to them.. a second opinion would also be important.. only after several "perfect-10" experts in fields associated with the technology, design and materials used in these pictures, diagrams, etc. have decreed the unique characteristics which these artifacts appear to contain would i consider openly publicizing them.. these objects and writings could be something remarkable, or they could be spare parts of kitchen appliances knocked together with crazy glue.. i dont know and, notwithstanding the familiarity of the owner with his property, neither does he.. if/when this assemblage of "stuff" is examined by authorities in fields related to what this "stuff" purports to be, we will confidently understand what this is.. until then, i'll pass.
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but, i could be wrong!
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