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« Reply #450 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 11:38am »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 11:13am, redSE7EN wrote:
I think its safe to say that these machines are in no need of our stone age parts like cooling or exhaust. Isaac notes that the shape of the material is key to certain functions. I'm pretty sure that the pointy parts have a certain function but I wouldnt expect to find muffler.


Understandable. I dont believe you'll find an exhaust. Increased current=increased heat. But to generate enough lift for that size of an object would also create heat, alot of it. Also an A/C unit is fully contained. no exhaust. Its recycled through the lines. The only exhaust you would have is the hot air. I also expect this tech would be alot more advanced then what we the public consumers are given. Im also trying to put this into a logical world where every action has a reaction. My brain hurts
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« Reply #451 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 11:40am »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 11:11am, chgowriter wrote:
If there's any kind of conspiracy in any of this, I suspect it's between vested interests in the commercial ufology world, not the government and aliens.


The commercial ufology world? I hope you're talking about commercial in the sense that they are producing and distributing information they acquire via their websites and not the definition that is characteristic of commerce or for profit.

The ufology community isn't non profit but they all have to scrimp and save because their income is at poverty level or lower. Instead, they all work outside of the realm of UFOs.

Other then the retired ufologists (who had real jobs previously) I don't know of a ufologist that doesn't have a regular 8 - 5 job. Even the owner of the UFO Casebook has a regular 8 to 5 job.

There are a handful that have cushy jobs that make money in their UFO oriented field such as Art Bell who works for Coast to Coast but those are the exceptions. Anyone with any money in this biz acquired it through their regular paying jobs and not from ufology.

UFO and alien websites barely make any money at all. Most of them make no money whatsoever.

Those that acquire advertisers sell ad space for around $5.00 to $10.00 a month. Wow, they can buy 3 gallons of gas with that - maybe.

The UFO Casebook website is the number one website in the catagory of UFOs on the whole Internet. Even so, why did I ever think to put together the following for the webmaster. It was my idea not his. He's too humble for that.

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&num=1109282030&start=0

Simply because this service in the forum and the website itself is absolutely free to the viewer. He makes a couple bucks selling UFO videos and has a small handful of ads on the front page of his website and that's about it.

So, I hope you meant the druther - putting the information they discover through the flow and not the flow of commerce.

You know what I left out here. Time is money. Because of that fact alone, I would have to say that even this website doesn't make a dime whatsoever because when BJ's not working, he's in his website proofing and uploading all of the many articles that he's made available to us.






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« Reply #452 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 11:54am »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 11:00am, Latitude wrote:
I made this yesterday but forgot to post it. It illustrates a possible damaged part.

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It also looks like one of those pieces may be missing on the top right.



Heh Latitude,

I would suggest that you are right here. I'm basing this on the assumption that part 16 is the biggest ring seen in the big basin pictures, but that it is upside down. If you study the pictures closely you can identify all of the parts of ring 16 with the underside of the craft. Everything from the flanges to the inner railing to even (just) the inner teath of the ring. You can also see the region of the ring in the big basin photo you suggest may be broken or configured differently, and by inspection this can indeed be verified. This makes the big basin craft huge in size.

ATO suggests that the big basin photos may be fake. The linking of the parts does however strongly suggest that if the basin photos are fake then the Isaac image is fake, or that they are both genuine. The remaining option seems unlikely to me, that of one source being real and then the other source being based off the first.

If people agree that these parts are identical then we have to take these two sources as being highly supportive of one another, whether real or fake.
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« Reply #453 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 11:57am »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 11:38am, chgowriter wrote:
I check in occasionally to see if the truth has come out at all.


From this statement it's logical to assume that you know "the truth" and therefore can identify it when you see it. This means that you're in possession of some pretty astounding information. It would be great if you would share with us all of the tested, validated, scientific (and other) evidence that you are privy to in regard to these craft. If you are, in fact, able to identify "the truth", you are indeed in a unique position.
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« Reply #454 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 12:02pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 11:27am, redSE7EN wrote:
It's just my opinion but I don't think we've re-created any of these alien machines with back engineering. Isaac says that in order to do so we'd have to have the ability to have an infinte alphabet. He also says that in order to create the symbols they have to be so precise because one characer could contain a 1bit flag and another the entire human genome. Without alien assistance, I don't think we would have those capabilities. Not to mention that the nessesary materials are probably not existent on Earth


I agree with this statement 100%. I think people nowadays put way to much confidence in our technology and know how. Sure we have some cool gadgets these days. The iphone is set to be selling today. But if you understand the technology behind these things you know they are not magic by any stretch.

One major point I took from the Isaac story was the sheer bewilderment of the pacl scientists as they attempted to understand a technology that was way too far advanced. Maybe that is one of the reasons Isaac resigned. Maybe he realized the futility of the research and decided to do something more rewarding.
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« Reply #455 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 12:07pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 11:54am, CloudBreak wrote:
. You can also see the region of the ring in the big basin photo you suggest may be broken or configured differently, and by inspection this can indeed be verified. This makes the big basin craft huge in size.


Stephen, one of the BB photographers, did describe the object as "huge".
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« Reply #456 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 12:18pm »

I would also like to suggest that the "component mode" of the personal antigravity device, described by Isaac, would probably work through a force that is extra to that of gravity, and may also only work with objects that the device is designed to work with.

Gravity as we know it is a very weak force. To hold objects so rigidly in place, such as to hold a craft together, would require incredibly strong gravitational fields. For example the gravity of the whole earth is not even enough to hold a leaf in place when the wind blows. I'm assuming rigidity is a property of the craft based upon Isaac's broom stick analogy. Hence I would guess that the device would not just have control over gravitational fields.

Now it appears to me that the drones of chad, etc appear to be held together by rivets (or something similar) at several locations on the drone.

Perhaps this implies that these are man made as Isaac says that PACL (at that time) did not have full control over the "component mode". Another possibility is that the drones simply do not require the technology that the personal antigravity device shows. Solid joins will do!
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« Reply #457 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 12:20pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 12:17pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Are any of you able to open this one up? My Explorer is going goofy is why I couldn't see the Isaac site.


works for me, has anyone seen this?:

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is it supposed to be from a photo or an illustration?

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1279&category=Environment

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« Reply #458 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 12:24pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 12:18pm, CloudBreak wrote:
IGravity as we know it is a very weak force. To hold objects so rigidly in place, such as to hold a craft together, would require incredibly strong gravitational fields.


the natural source for gravity is mass

gravity is just another form of radiation.

an advanced enough technology could produce gravitons in much the same way we can generate radio waves without having to create a star, or any of the natural sources of radio waves in the universe
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« Reply #459 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 12:25pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 12:17pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Are any of you able to open this one up? My Explorer is going goofy is why I couldn't see the Isaac site.

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=fr|en&u=http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/&prev=/language_tools


It looks like your running the Isaac website through a google translator to english which it already is so no change. What version of IE are you using? I hope it's not 7. 7 sucks.
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« Reply #460 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 12:29pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 11:27am, redSE7EN wrote:
It's just my opinion but I don't think we've re-created any of these alien machines with back engineering. Isaac says that in order to do so we'd have to have the ability to have an infinte alphabet. He also says that in order to create the symbols they have to be so precise because one characer could contain a 1bit flag and another the entire human genome. Without alien assistance, I don't think we would have those capabilities. Not to mention that the nessesary materials are probably not existent on Earth


But Isaac hasn't been around that work for 20 years so he really doesn't know what they've done since.

I have to stay partial to both possibilites for the time being.

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« Reply #461 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 12:34pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 12:20pm, j w wright wrote:
works for me, has anyone seen this?:

is it supposed to be from a photo or an illustration?

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1279&category=Environment



It's from the hi-rez pics from Ty that LMH has. I think they may be color enhanced to show detail. I sure with she would upload those pics.
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« Reply #462 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 12:43pm »

right, got it:

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sure looks alot different than the other drones symbolism

maybe this one is a version that researchers have been able to configure themselves

which would indicate some serious breakthroughs since issacs time

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« Reply #463 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 12:44pm »

ATO, after listening to the witness in the LMH interview describe how the craft maneuvered, and re-reading the other interviews, I think you may be right about the Big Basin craft - the "menacing" one - being a fake. The witnesses, for the most part, describe the tail or fin leading the rest of the craft. The motion (as described) is jumpy, not a smooth rotation from a center point. In looking at the BB craft, it's difficult to envision that type of movement sequence with it. The very fact that, as someone said, it's "over the top", might indicate a fraud. This is a tactic that's often used to discredit things. People hear that ONE thing might be a fake and automatically, without doing any further research, they assume that ALL of them are. Remember when those two guys from the pub in England claimed that they made all of the crop circles with boards and string? People who saw only that news story went on to believe that all crop circles were a hoax. The Big Basin craft (perhaps intentionally made to look scary) is a plant.
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« Reply #464 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 12:45pm »

Right, well there are 4 main forces that we know of. In order of strongest to weakest they are called.., Strong, Electromagnetic, Weak and finally Gravity. The Strong force is what binds fundamental particles together in a nucleus, the EM force concerns the forces between eletric and magnetic fields, the weak force is the hardest to explain so I won't. Whilst the gravitational force is probably the most apparent but least understood of the forces.

What I am saying about the force of gravity is that it is very weak in the sense that it is not very powerful but acts over huge distances, it holds the universe together. Contrast this to the force exerted by a magnet, the force experienced here is very strong but it does not have a very large range.

If spatial rigidity between two objects is required then to a physicist the gravitational force would not be the mechanism that springs to mind.
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