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« Reply #510 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 3:31pm »

This is interesting info

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1271&category=Environment
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« Reply #511 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 3:32pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 11:17am, humanencounter wrote:
On the topic of Isaac. Lets not forget Isaac Newton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton

I think if anything He would pick Isaac because of him. Fits the subject matter.


Everything means something to someone. Considering that he knew he was dealing with anti-gravity, good chance he wanted to be Isaac as to show that gravity can be defied. He has a sense of humor, we saw that in his letter so it's quite probable that he chose Isaac for just that reason.

I played around a little bit here too,

Newton - gravity Gravity cannot be defied
Isaac - anti-gravity Gravity can be defied

Newton - caret A proofreading symbol (^) used to indicate something is to be inserted in a line of written matter. An insertion
Isaac - caret Lacking "proof"
Webster - caret caret "there is lacking," 3rd pers. sing. of carere, meaning "to lack"
Isaac - caret Lacking evidence
Isaac - caret Commercial Applications Research for Extraterrestrial Technology
Internet - caret Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies

Newton - insertion An inserted mark
Webster - insertion The act or process of inserting, authorial Insertions
Webster - insertion Aerospace. injection (see def. 6).
Webster - injection (def. 6) Aerospace. the process of putting a spacecraft into orbit or some other desired trajectory.
Isaac - insertion Aerospace

I hope you caught that. A caret is an insertion and an insertion in is defined in Aerospace.

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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #512 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 3:33pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 3:22pm, Latitude wrote:
Did you know that Rajman did come out but got freaked when his flickr account was hacked and he began getting strange late night crank calls.



No actually I didn't know that. That does give the case a boost.
Is there any compelling evidence that shows "Chad", "Ty", "Rajman", and the first Big Basin pictures are clearly from different people? I think its pretty clear the older "Birmingham" picture is from a different source.
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« Reply #513 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 3:35pm »

J w wright:
“since the field effect interprets the sheet of connected symbols as a set of commands for operation, i think its a good guess that the symbols on the crafts components act as addresses for configuration.

they tell the field where they should be placed with precision.

by altering the command symbiology, the craft can be reconfigured, most likely.”


I can see what you are saying. If this is the case, then there can definitely be a way to figure it out.


Cloudbreak:
“Gravity as we know it is a very weak force. To hold objects so rigidly in place, such as to hold a craft together, would require incredibly strong gravitational fields. For example the gravity of the whole earth is not even enough to hold a leaf in place when the wind blows. I'm assuming rigidity is a property of the craft based upon Isaac's broom stick analogy. Hence I would guess that the device would not just have control over gravitational fields.”


I believe this to be true. Let us take the spherical UFOs as an example of this. The lower into Earth’s atmosphere, the more erratic they seem to behave, this has been explained by them using anti-gravity versus Earth’s gravity causing the disturbance and erratic motion. We don’t see these ‘drones’ freaking out. This would indicate another form of elevation.


MarkM:
“ATO, after listening to the witness in the LMH interview describe how the craft maneuvered, and re-reading the other interviews, I think you may be right about the Big Basin craft - the "menacing" one - being a fake. The witnesses, for the most part, describe the tail or fin leading the rest of the craft. The motion (as described) is jumpy, not a smooth rotation from a center point. In looking at the BB craft, it's difficult to envision that type of movement sequence with it. The very fact that, as someone said, it's "over the top", might indicate a fraud. This is a tactic that's often used to discredit things. People hear that ONE thing might be a fake and automatically, without doing any further research, they assume that ALL of them are. Remember when those two guys from the pub in England claimed that they made all of the crop circles with boards and string? People who saw only that news story went on to believe that all crop circles were a hoax. The Big Basin craft (perhaps intentionally made to look scary) is a plant.”


That’s what I am saying. Don’t look at this as ‘all or nothing’ type of scenario. UNLESS it is discovered that ALL of the photos and information comes from one source, or different sources that are affiliated with one another.


J w wright:
“as far as a gravity / anti gravity field effect goes, if any tech was able to generate gravity fields and use them to manipulate adressed objects precisely could also control the range of the gravity effect field.

but if this is anti-gravity, it wouldnt behave like classic gravity at all? anti gravity might not occur in nature

precision high power magnetic fields is a more easily swallowed concept for this, you're right. it would also explain the rigidity of two unconnected objects controlled by a field as one object

the only part that bugs me about it is, as far as i'm aware, only iron and its alloys respond to magentic fields while all matter is affected by gravity

edit: additional thought:

of course, there could be iron targets within the components for the mag field to latch onto and position the component with...”


This is an interesting point. Also consider other ET type metals that are not located on the Earth. They may work in ways we do not yet fully understand and could be a factor in this.


Lattitude:
“About the object looking "over the top"? That's closed minded debunkery speak if you ask me. The entire case could be called over the top. Invisible flying objects held together by force fields? Wow! It does not get any more over the top than that.”

Fisrt off, I do realize this wasn’t Markm’s personal view. Having said that, I have to agree with Lattitude here. Just what is “over the top?” Step back for one second and consider what over the top means to a person who has never contemplated UFOs at all. Almost every topic in a UFO forum is “over the top.” I could not think of a more useless term.


Hjdelight:
“Has anyone considered that if any of this is true concerning invisibility technology, we probably have EBE's, unfriendly people and machines wandering around amongst us undetected? We certainly would not have any secrets as far as they are concerned. Certainly feeds the paranoia!”

Exactly man. I would rather discover this ET, than the New CIA mind control adventure. It must be considered a possibility!

There were many other good points and comments, but I cannot comment on them all or by the time I’m done with this post I’ll have 5 more pages to read lol
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« Reply #514 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 3:39pm »



BJ just said that there will be no content in the article on the new drone. Just the picture.
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« Reply #515 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 3:42pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 3:39pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
BJ just said that there will be no content in the article on the new drone. Just the picture.


more red flags! seems very suspicious to me...
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« Reply #516 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 3:43pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 3:39pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
BJ just said that there will be no content in the article on the new drone. Just the picture.


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Take a look at this info tell me what you think.
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1271&category=Environment


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« Reply #517 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 3:45pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 3:26pm, DrDil wrote:
There’s a couple of things that bother me.

This is self explanatory, Isaac is stressing how much he would stand to lose if he ever leaked ANYTHING he was being told. And how privileged the position was that he held as a CIVILIAN.


I don't quite get your point in this part. Did you mean this is self explanatory so why then did he do it when he knew he shouldn't?

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« Reply #518 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 3:47pm »

On the new photo today:

I am curious as to how exactly we are suddenly seeing so many new sightings.

History:

No sightings of these in the 1980's.
Three sightings in the 1990's.
No sightings for the first six years of the 2000's.
2007, several sightings with more coming out all the time?

Is not something amiss? Or pre-planned?

I thought Isaac said that the only way these are becoming visible is by a technology that has to be something that was not man made. That the tech would have to be more powerful than the 'drone' tech. If this were the case, I'm pretty sure our power cables have nothing to do with this. Did anyone else catch that or did I read that wrong?
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« Reply #519 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 3:58pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 3:35pm, Nephilim wrote:
Cloudbreak:
“Gravity as we know it is a very weak force. To hold objects so rigidly in place, such as to hold a craft together, would require incredibly strong gravitational fields. For example the gravity of the whole earth is not even enough to hold a leaf in place when the wind blows. I'm assuming rigidity is a property of the craft based upon Isaac's broom stick analogy. Hence I would guess that the device would not just have control over gravitational fields.”

I believe this to be true. Let us take the spherical UFOs as an example of this. The lower into Earth’s atmosphere, the more erratic they seem to behave, this has been explained by them using anti-gravity versus Earth’s gravity causing the disturbance and erratic motion. We don’t see these ‘drones’ freaking out. This would indicate another form of elevation.


First I'd like to point out that Cloudbreak is accurate in his physics. I'm no physicist but it's always been somewhat of a hobby for me. Over the past week or so I have been in contact with a physicist friend of mine. He specializes in theoretical physics and has written a book on the subject. He is on record as believing this entire case as scientifically plausible. He even has theories as to how the A1 device might function.

Isaac did state that other forms of anti gravity had been recovered and that they did work on different principles. In the beginning of this flap it was speculated that the drones did not appear to be very advanced looking and ever terrestrial in nature. I think the Isaac story completely flies in the face of that notion and that the drone ETs might be some of the more advanced.
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RE: “This is self explanatory, Isaac is stressing how much he would stand to lose if he ever leaked ANYTHING he was being told. And how privileged the position was that he held as a CIVILIAN.”

on Jun 29th, 2007, 3:45pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
I don't quite get your point in this part. Did you mean this is self explanatory so why then did he do it when he knew he shouldn't?

Sorry, I meant the body of text explains itself.

The point I was making is made is in the text that follows the quote, basically, what I was trying to do was to draw attention to how Isaac says that the security/civilian issue was constantly referred to, and yet they still allowed him a free reign to scan high profile images of an as of yet, undisclosed extraterrestrial technology.

Not just a UFO craft but the actual technology from one.

Nobody monitoring him, no CCTV, no policing of any kind, whether he was management or not I have trouble with the logic behind it.
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« Reply #521 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:06pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 3:47pm, Nephilim wrote:
On the new photo today:

I am curious as to how exactly we are suddenly seeing so many new sightings.

History:

No sightings of these in the 1980's.
Three sightings in the 1990's.
No sightings for the first six years of the 2000's.
2007, several sightings with more coming out all the time?

Is not something amiss? Or pre-planned?

I thought Isaac said that the only way these are becoming visible is by a technology that has to be something that was not man made. That the tech would have to be more powerful than the 'drone' tech. If this were the case, I'm pretty sure our power cables have nothing to do with this. Did anyone else catch that or did I read that wrong?



Nope, you read it right, perhaps he's suggesting that a massive leap has recently been made in this kind of technology, or there is some new rogue technology that has been realised but not yet successfully controlled/harnessed?

Or maybes it’s the US jumping on the slow moving disclosure bandwagon that France and the UK have jumpstarted with the release of SOME of their UFO files.

Although in the UK’s case I believe it was to pre-empt the deluge of FOIA request they are receiving on a regular basis. (So that they can simply refer the seeker to a website without having to physically locate the documents in question. )

Not, I hasten to add because of any great conspiracy, but because of the man-power/man-hours they are losing to the FOIA.
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« Reply #522 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:10pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 3:58pm, DrDil wrote:
what I was trying to do was to draw attention to how Isaac says that the security/civilian issue was constantly referred to, and yet they still allowed him a free reign to scan high profile images of an as of yet, undisclosed extraterrestrial technology.


He states the issue is constantly 'referred to' but that might be words spoken, where they are reminding them continually about their jobs as civilians and the NDA they signed.

He never stated that they had security standing there in their work space continually through the day looking over their shoulder besides monitoring devices.

I imagine if it was common place for him to frequent a copier or scanner that he would do just that like he had done with unclassified material. Unless they physically monitored the area where such documents are reproduced.

I'm just guessing here of course because I've never worked under an NDA.

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« Reply #523 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:11pm »

drdil,
I see your point. For such earth shaking technology, it seems rather lackluster security. He's very convincing though in the story but on the other hand, why risk jail or worse to steal (that's what it is) this material and then sit on it for all these years. Then release it and risk jail time or worse for no gain at all.

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« Reply #524 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:21pm »

On the new photo what some are calling a lander is actually probably an irrigation head used to water the field. I have several that looks very close to that from a distance. The fact its in the picture of the drone makes me skeptical of the latest picture. Especially since what I'm calling an irrigation head might make someone think it was some sort of lander or probe when there's a drone pictured overhead. A bit too suspicious for me. Just an opinion!Dan
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