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« Reply #525 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:23pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 4:11pm, hjdelight wrote:
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I see your point. For such earth shaking technology, it seems rather lackluster security. He's very convincing though in the story but on the other hand, why risk jail or worse to steal (that's what it is) this material and then sit on it for all these years. Then release it and risk jail time or worse for no gain at all.

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I was in the military back in the '80s and did work with crypto. I now work in the IT field. I can tell you that the difference in security between then and now is night and day. But I do agree that Isaac is risking serious jail time or worse.

I don't know if you believe in Bob Lazar, I don't even know if I believe in him. He supposedly avoided any problems with the USG by going completely public. He said the safest place to be is in the public eye. Then there's Gordon Novell who says he avoids any entanglements by having evidence CDroms waiting to be delivered at a moments notice should anything happen to him.
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« Reply #526 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:30pm »

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I was in the military back in the '80s and did work with crypto. I now work in the IT field. I can tell you that the difference in security between then and now is night and day. But I do agree that Isaac is risking serious jail time or worse.

I don't know if you believe in Bob Lazar, I don't even know if I believe in him. He supposedly avoided any problems with the USG by going completely public. He said the safest place to be is in the public eye. Then there's Gordon Novell who says he avoids any entanglements by having evidence CDroms waiting to be delivered at a moments notice should anything happen to him.


Lazar's story is fascinating but he could be pretty much ignored by them since it was just a story. This story has proof with it. It sets a bad example for others who might want to get their story out. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes right now.

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« Reply #527 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:34pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 3:22pm, Nephilim wrote:
seek professional help? Are you kidding me?? Go ahead, tell a shrink you believe in UFOs, see your self commited against your will within the hour. laugh

I think discovering we have a secret government shattered my reality moreso than UFOs or the idea of extraterrestrial civilizations. And who to seek help from? The government? Gov won't help you, theyll put you away. Nope we're on our own when dealing with this/these things my friends. All I can say is hang in there because each of us have had to deal with this in one way or the other, so you are definately not alone.




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« Reply #528 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:40pm »

That doesn't mean you aren't nuts though...Lol! grin Just kidding. But as they say, even paranoids have enemies so just because you're nuts doesn't mean you're wrong.

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« Reply #529 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:41pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 4:21pm, GForce wrote:
Especially since what I'm calling an irrigation head might make someone think it was some sort of lander or probe...


not that it means anything, but i cant find any image of industrial agricultural irrigation equipment that looks remotely like that...

looks too complicated to be that kind of hardware anyway, generally farm equipment is lean and mean to keep expenses down, no extra parts to repair... etc...

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« Reply #530 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:45pm »

Ok...I guess I'll try to find it too. There's just something about it that's familiar and I remember irrigation units being presented as UFO's in the past.

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« Reply #531 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:47pm »

I have a question because I'm a photographer dummy. I was going to do some miniature bigbasin drones for my signature area and when I attempted this, I ended up with a question I need answering.

The top picture is the original picture received at the UFO Casebook from Jenna on behalf of Stephen.

First I brought the original into plain ole Paint and as decribed in the picture below, I made a copy of the original, wrapped around it and clicked 'clear background' and then drug it to a solid black surface. Once on the solid black surface, I noticed that black was showing through where pixels should be.

Who can tell me what I did and why the black holes around the circumference of the craft and to the right of the craft? Don't make me feel bad with my silly little question either - I don't do photos. rolleyes rolleyes

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« Reply #532 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:49pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 4:10pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
He states the issue is constantly 'referred to' but that might be words spoken, where they are reminding them continually about their jobs as civilians and the NDA they signed.

He never stated that they had security standing there in their work space continually through the day looking over their shoulder besides monitoring devices.

I imagine if it was common place for him to frequent a copier or scanner that he would do just that like he had done with unclassified material. Unless they physically monitored the area where such documents are reproduced.

I'm just guessing here of course because I've never worked under an NDA.



"Of course they spent about 2 months briefing us all before we saw or did anything, and did their best to convince us that if we ever leaked a single detail about what we were being told, they’d do everything short of digging up our ancestors and putting a few slugs in them too just for good measure. It seemed like there was an armed guard in every corner of every room."

Sounds like fairly stringent security to me. Certainly reason enough not to leave photographs lying around next to untended scanners. Just asking for trouble?
Especially photographs which, the very existence of would have profound and world wide implications that would extend to practically every intelligent, living being on the planet.

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« Reply #533 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:49pm »

JW I worked for a state park "Lake Lanier Islands" back in the 80's its located in Georgia. The Ecology Dept used a type of head that we commonly called a quik cuppler?sp It is almost identical except for the stand. My guess and this is purely a guess is someone DRESSED it up. Needless to say I think the new photo is a hoax. The others may be legit but I think this one is a hoax! Just my opinion!
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« Reply #534 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:50pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 4:34pm, starsigndavid wrote:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH! smiley I really appreciate that. I am not nuts--I am a good guy with a good profession and this whole thing has thrown me. I will be fine.


Ok. I was only trying to help but I can see Nep's point. I just thought that maybe a professional might be able to help remove whatever it is that hinders your daily life. But I'm curious, can you give specifics in how it has altered your behavior?
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« Reply #535 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:51pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 4:40pm, hjdelight wrote:
That doesn't mean you aren't nuts though...Lol! grin Just kidding. But as they say, even paranoids have enemies so just because you're nuts doesn't mean you're wrong.

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« Reply #536 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:51pm »

Jpg-compression works that way smiley Speicially when an image is resaved over and over again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG

Enjoying this enigma btw and im working on a complete vector interpretation of the "linguistic analysis primers". Ill have the first part (p119) up here later tonight.
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« Reply #537 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:54pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 4:49pm, GForce wrote:
JW I worked for a state park "Lake Lanier Islands" back in the 80's its located in Georgia. The Ecology Dept used a type of head that we commonly called a quik cuppler?sp It is almost identical except for the stand. My guess and this is purely a guess is someone DRESSED it up. Needless to say I think the new photo is a hoax. The others may be legit but I think this one is a hoax! Just my opinion!


Can you link to a picture of said irrigation device? I assume the antenae mean this thing is radio controlled?
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« Reply #538 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 4:55pm »

more analysis of the new pic:

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« Reply #539 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 5:04pm »



Just a little note since it pertains to some that are posting in this thread. I'll get back to all my PMs when I can. They're sorta backing up. 22 to be exact and I have other things going on in there I need to play catch up on first.

By the way, if you didn't know it or realize it, we have 8 Global Moderators like myself and 6 Board Moderators. Besides vacations I don't know where they're at except for Gus but he Australia and Merlin is UK so they wouldn't be on yet so I'm all alone all by my lonesome.

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