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« Reply #570 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 6:56pm »

Hi everyone,

This is my first post here, so please be gentle!

on Jun 29th, 2007, 3:26pm, DrDil wrote:
The problem I have with this lies in the report/s he leaked. It has the name at the top (PALO ALTO CARET LABORATORY Q4-86 RESEARCH REPORT) this is normal but bearing in mind what he has told us in the quotes above, WHERE IS THE CLASSIFICATION?. Every document that is not meant for public consumption is marked with some sort of classification.


Actually, in my line of work (surplus - in San Diego, a nice military town), we have occasionally obtained binders/documents from the Navy, Marines, and SPAWAR that were marked/stamped "classified", though not necessarily every single page - and were never marked "de-classified". I'm also thinking that it would be possible for Isaac to have photocopied a classified document that had not yet been given any stamp.

We also occasionally end up with "surplus" hardware that we have trouble identifying, but you can bet that as soon as we list it on eBay, the Department of Defense shows up at our door to take it back - even though it came directly from them. I guess my point is, classified stuff slips past them on a very regular basis.

on Jun 29th, 2007, 3:26pm, DrDil wrote:
Surely something/someone monitoring would have realised the photographs were being scanned and if so would have to ask why.



Isaac noted that he "made out with hundreds of photocopies, as well as a few originals and a large collection of original photographs"

Later he states that he was including "Scans of the original photographs used in that report, since the photocopies obscure most of the details "

I take this to mean that for the typed reports, he is showing photocopies, and that he scanned the original photos recently, in order to include them with his report.

In any case, I'm new to the whole UFO thing. I've always been fascinated, and I have family members that have been close to the space program - but I have only been spending time on these websites for a couple months - around when some of the other strange craft photos appeared. I must say, this thread has kept me quite unproductive at work the past couple days. smiley
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« Reply #571 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:01pm »

Kind of hard to understand what you mean Datsky1. Did you use http://babelfish.altavista.com to translate that to English? Are you trying to say you believe that the pictures are 3D CGI?

Anyways, hello all. My first post here. I have been following all of this since the day the pictures of the drones where released on C2C.

I am still on the fence and will most likely stay that way until I see some more information from Issac.
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« Reply #572 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:14pm »

Dyce!
YES
I am, trying to say that the pictures are 3D

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« Reply #573 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:26pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 6:56pm, beenieweenie wrote:
We also occasionally end up with "surplus" hardware that we have trouble identifying, but you can bet that as soon as we list it on eBay, the Department of Defense shows up at our door to take it back - even though it came directly from them.


I'll be gentle - eek, eek

You need to become a whistleblower - thats tax payer money they're messing with. You can become San Diego's Erin Brockovich since who knows what the DoD could accidentally put into your hands.


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« Reply #574 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:26pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 6:56pm, beenieweenie wrote:
Hi everyone,

Isaac noted that he "made out with hundreds of photocopies, as well as a few originals and a large collection of original photographs"


You make a valid point.

If Isaac does indeed speak the truth, then surely, “The original photographs” he managed to sneak out of the complex would be missed.

Surely they are part of only a handful of documents which not only specify their origins as being extraterrestrial, but actually have the original photos of the recovered extraterrestrial technology (antigravity drive). They then employ a handful of elite persons to try to understand and reverse engineer this technology yet don’t notice when original photographs go missing.

Could the extraterrestrial technology really mean so little to them as to not even closely monitor all corroborative evidence.

And as for, “Classified stuff slipping past them.” This is a little more than just classified stuff. It’s essentially photographs, the very existence of which would have profound and world wide implications that would extend to practically every intelligent, living being on the planet.

I appreciate what you are saying, but personally I feel a little more emphasis would be placed on the security side when dealing with an alien antigravity device obtained from a crashed alien spacecraft.
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« Reply #575 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:27pm »

the drones have too many flaws and imperfections to be cgi, it would be an enormous effrt to design the drone, model them, use such a high poly count to create the nearly imperceptible flaws in geometry, create textures set up lighting, composite and create an elaborate and convincing backstory along with groundbreaking graphic languages, numerous photos in different styles and thats just for starters

it would be easier to produce a motion picture for theatrical release
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« Reply #576 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:28pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 6:32pm, Nephilim wrote:
Perhaps a direction we should look at:

[Sacred Geometry]


I'm not even going to open that up. I'm breaking my brain as it is Nephilim.
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« Reply #577 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:30pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 7:26pm, DrDil wrote:
“The original photographs” he managed to sneak out of the complex would be missed..


i wouldnt be surprised to discover a pretty good photolab on the premises where isaac worked

plenty of photographic prints for the teams to use as they work, who would miss one of a number of copies of all the components?
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« Reply #578 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:33pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 7:30pm, j w wright wrote:
i wouldnt be surprised to discover a pretty good photolab on the premises where isaac worked

plenty of photographic prints for the teams to use as they work, who would miss one of a number of copies of all the components?

See my last post on what I think is the importance of the subject matter, and why I feel it would be kept under lock and key.

And you think proof of technology such as this would be just handed over to a photolab. Isaac & co were hand selected individuals who were briefed for two months before they could even look at anything, then there was an armed guard in nearly every corner of every room.

And it’s not really just one of the many components. It’s THE COMPONENT. One of a pair of recovered antigravity devices.
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« Reply #579 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:34pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 7:14pm, Datsky1 wrote:
Dyce!
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I am, trying to say that the pictures are 3D



cgi geometry is too perfect to be realistic, unless very, very much time and effort is spent, then the geometry would be too high for most desktop systems to cope with

a pretty high end engineering workstation could handle it, so much effort for what payoff? a laugh?
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« Reply #580 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:38pm »

j w wright,
For professional 3d designers it is nonsense. Here in general options by default are installed. And the author of these pictures not strongly owns 3d
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on Jun 29th, 2007, 7:33pm, DrDil wrote:
See my last post on what I think is the importance of the subject matter, and why I feel it would be kept under lock and key.


humans are fallable, everyone is working long hours, fatigue and apathy sets in, routine, etc...

photographic prints the teams use to work become tattered, more copies are needed, the photo lab prints off more copies some copies get lost in the shuffle...

stacks of papers and folders on desks, worktables, staging areas, etc...

have you ever worked with people in a team collaborative envioronment?

humans are at best, barely conscious
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« Reply #582 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:44pm »

Hi all
This is my first post in a loong time.
I've been reading this forum for days in a row, and I think no one else mentioned something I remembered:

Have you seen the interviews made to the persons that had 2nd hand contact with the Rosewell crash?
I remember seing a couple of TV docs where I can recall an interview where the boy (at the time) saying that his father bringing home some very light beans with symbols writen all over them

It's impossible not to make the connection. Obviously the UFO that crashed in Roswell was using this very same technology.


Just my 5 cents
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« Reply #583 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:44pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 7:26pm, DrDil wrote:
You make a valid point.

If Isaac does indeed speak the truth, then surely, “The original photographs” he managed to sneak out of the complex would be missed.

Surely they are part of only a handful of documents which not only specify their origins as being extraterrestrial, but actually have the original photos of the recovered extraterrestrial technology (antigravity drive). They then employ a handful of elite persons to try to understand and reverse engineer this technology yet don’t notice when original photographs go missing.

Could the extraterrestrial technology really mean so little to them as to not even closely monitor all corroborative evidence.

And as for, “Classified stuff slipping past them.” This is a little more than just classified stuff. It’s essentially photographs, the very existence of which would have profound and world wide implications that would extend to practically every intelligent, living being on the planet.

I appreciate what you are saying, but personally I feel a little more emphasis would be placed on the security side when dealing with an alien antigravity device obtained from a crashed alien spacecraft.


Remember, Isaac was COPYING the files...not retrieving them.
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« Reply #584 on: Jun 29th, 2007, 7:45pm »

on Jun 29th, 2007, 7:38pm, Datsky1 wrote:
j w wright,
For professional 3d designers it is nonsense. Here in general options by default are installed. And the author of these pictures not strongly owns 3d


i produce 3d models and animation for video, animations and interactive programming, i study the industry constantly

i would love to see someone produce a 3d model, with the level of detail as seen in the inventory photo, along with the textures and lighting and rendering in under 80 hours of straight work

that person would be better off pulling down 6 figures at skywalker ranch

the drone has a higher level of detail than any 3d model ever seen on screen, including the transformers

models for screen have no need for such minute detail, good thing, because it is enormously time consuming to do so with little payoff
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