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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #690 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 3:50pm »

IF chad or Isaac and the rest are hoax,s. I ask all of you when I had the dream about this craft how did I see It in my dream just like the picture of chad,s? serious I have no reason to lie to you all. huh
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« Reply #691 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 4:01pm »

Hello, jugement! What was the dream about? In what context did you see this carft? I'd be interested in hearing about it. If it's in an earlier post could you please repost the link? Thank you!

On the aliens and which type might be associated with this technology - Isaac is clear that he never saw an actual ET or space craft, so that leaves us only speculation. Latitude, you're right, who knows how many races there are? The Roswell I-beam is an intriguing question and the irony of this all coming together just weeks (now days) before the 60th anniversary of the crash, is hard to ignore. Not that I'm linking the two consciously or claiming it's a ploy, just another example of synchronicity at work!

DrDil, your ET looks like the one on the cover of "Communion", a groundbreaking book whether you're a believer or not. It - and that cover painting - were a catalyst for abductees. These are a few of my own images, the painting on the right I did in the early 80's, the sketch just a few months ago. Again, there's a familiar feel to much of this.

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« Reply #692 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 4:05pm »

on Jun 30th, 2007, 2:26pm, mantis wrote:
ill say one thing it all could be some sort of weather monitoring equipment unseen before
or also some one has made them out bits and bobs of weather monitoring equipment to make them look alien just a thought grin


Mantis,

Here's a link to weather monitoring equipment. I thought the same and posted this on anothr forum. I can't get past the fact the object appears to be levitating however.

Becker

http://www.inmtn.com/html/weather/weatherclimate.htm
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« Reply #693 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 4:14pm »

MarkM, impressive artistic skills man. smiley
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« Reply #694 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 4:18pm »

We should all remember that these days there are literally thousands of very capable people who derive pleasure from hoaxing us. Some have lots of money too. Some are probably well paid to yank our chain and confuse the issue. Some might be right here with us on this forum. I would be surprised if there weren't.

All that said and all things considered, this appears genuine to me. But what do I know actually? The photos and the story are great but depending on who you listen to, easily produced or at least producible with skill and equipment. Other than that, I only have the forum opinions and speculation. It's all fascinating and entertaining but I wouldn't bet a dollar either way since there's not anything factual to hang your hat on. But my opinion, which is free and therefore worthless, is that it appears genuine.

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« Reply #695 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 4:33pm »

Well, the two most powerful world leaders are now in my backyard. What a perfect opportunity for a drone cameo! Here's a pic from our local paper this morning. Hey what's that thing ......??!!!

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THIS IS A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #696 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 4:44pm »

on Jun 30th, 2007, 4:33pm, MarkM wrote:
Well, the two most powerful world leaders are now in my backyard. What a perfect opportunity for a drone cameo! Here's a pic from our local paper this morning. Hey what's that thing ......??!!!

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And Robin Hood's arrow is pointing where? CIA and the FBI are both hangin in your neighborhood right now - better watch it. ROFL

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« Reply #697 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 4:52pm »

CGI vs Isaac

From the http://ovnis-usa.com/ site

The debate reconsiders the topic recurringly: “Cgi, or not?” On ATS, an amateur like 1111, already pinned for heavy faults, demene to monopolize the attention.

Fortunately, in a way very posed, others are expressed
with really technical arguments, and it is the case of srb2001: “I am an artist cgi, and I attentively observed the photographs of Isaac showing the artifacts aliens. There is strictly no proof of returned 3D. I.e. there are no pixels of antialiasing on the geometrical edges of the objects.
Even by having recourse to the filters of blur (Gaussian and grain), which is used to approach the effect of a photographic image, contours of the object appear very differently from one made synthetic numerical. (...) These objects were photographed with a traditional apparatus of type SLR. “

[ENGLISH TRANSLATION]

And there is something about the diagrams and the number 8! I've notise this myself, when looking at the diagrams you will see that it is everywhere, start counting...
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« Reply #698 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 5:00pm »

A good joke from the same site:

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« Reply #699 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 5:03pm »

To Isaac:
I applaud you for coming forward with your information, and that you had the foresight to take the documents. Truly, if this is real and not hoaxed, will be a very, very, very important step towards full disclosure. We all knew that one day, the world just couldn't deny it any longer.

To former employees of CARET and the like: I challenge you to come forward. Join Isaac and bring forth documents, photos and any other memories you might have. For those who have family members that worked for these governmentally run agencies, please encourage them to come forward as well. They might be elderly and not be internet savvy. We encourage and applaud everyone brave enough to come forward.
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« Reply #700 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 5:15pm »

on Jun 30th, 2007, 4:18pm, hjdelight wrote:
All that said and all things considered, this appears genuine to me. But what do I know actually? The photos and the story are great but depending on who you listen to, easily produced or at least producible with skill and equipment. But my opinion, which is free and therefore worthless, is that it appears genuine.HJ


What appears to set some people apart from others in regard to whether they believe it or feel it is a hoax I think has a lot to do with whether or not they read "Isaac's" website non-stop without interruption and then reviewed it again for more long-term absorption.

This means observing all photos and reading both his letter and the report text thoroughly making sure that they 'understood' everything they were reading instead of understanding some parts but skipping over others.

I've noticed two members in particular who have changed their tune more recently who were borderline debunkers when they first came in. I believe this happened because eventually they found themselves resorting back to "Isaac's" website quite often for one thing or another. In doing so, much more was being absorbed and not overlooked or ignored due to it's technical nature.

Even I jumped over the holographic computational substrate, but then I spent a couple hours on it this morning in order to better understand it and boy was that a big wow when it was now a part of my long-term memory.

CloudBreak used an analogy on the brain and neurons for a better understanding, which clicked for me, but I still did not have a thorough understanding until I went out into the Internet and found the Cliff Notes (so to speak) and read. I can actually expand on that analogy CloudBreak presented but I don't want to embarass myself. rolleyes I've posted CloudBreak's analogy at the bottom.

So some of the text is going to be ignored by some that do not wish to figure it out but when you find out what it is you didn't understand and then think back and look at Isaac's job, his words, his obvious schooling and simply the fact that he's talking about a holographic computational substrate now everything changes. Because I understand it now, (the basics) I also realize that this would be a very large part of alien technology and such applications are probably extremely prevalent in their lives in many, many ways so it became even moreso less of a hoax at that moment of realization for me.

Truthfully, I don't have a sense of it being a hoax whatsoever inside me (a feeling). It still could be a hoax of course but I do not have that feeling anymore.

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By CloudBreak: Now a brain is not a holographic substrate, but there are many similarities. The computational power of 4 neurons is greater than 4 times the computational power of 1 neuron. The brain is non-linear. Also different regions of the brain have their neurons clustered in different configurations such that different functions are achieved





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« Reply #701 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 5:25pm »

on Jun 30th, 2007, 3:48pm, Latitude wrote:
ATO,
I too think it is very much possible Isaac is reading the forum. Would it be a good idea to organize anything specifically addressed to Isaac into a separate thread? A kind of a thread intended for Isaac to read? I had some questions for him but would not like them to get lost in the chatter. If so could you also police the thread, editing out anything not appropriate?


It might be a little too late for that Latitude, to many comments are in here already and besides, I find it appropriate in here too though.

It doesn't take rocket scientist to figure out whether or not Isaac is reading the thread. It's human nature to want to know what people are talking about when they're talking about you. We all do it.

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« Reply #702 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 5:38pm »

None of us wants to be duped or appear gullible, so we qualify everything we say with 'if this is real' and 'if this isn't a hoax' and so on. I know I am guilty of it.
When this first hit, I read it all in one sitting, all of it, even though some of it had me floundering in the darkness of my own ignorance and technical expertise.
I do feel this is real. I will be the first to admit I am totally taken in by it and I will stand honorably by my own naivete if it turns out otherwise. The ring of truth seems to be in the entire thing; so much of it seems to dovetail nicely with what I have observed, hoped for, thought about and researched. The is a confluence of phenomena here. [Pardon that last part, but I have always wanted to find just the right moment to use the word 'confluence!']
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« Reply #703 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 5:46pm »

on Jun 30th, 2007, 2:26pm, mantis wrote:
ill say one thing it all could be some sort of weather monitoring equipment unseen before
or also some one has made them out bits and bobs of weather monitoring equipment to make them look alien just a thought grin


That was an initial thought of mine as well as member Easternbluestar. We spent a week plus gathering up what we could and put this together. It may be just that but at this point, the likelyhood that it's human is not likely yet, unless whoever picked up the ball from PACL figured out the anti-gravity thing over the past 20 years that is.

06-01-07 Strange Craft May Be Energy Systems Monitoring Drone
http://www.ufocasebook.com/strangecraftdrone.html

Here is the jpg that is dead in there.

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« Reply #704 on: Jun 30th, 2007, 5:54pm »

on Jun 30th, 2007, 11:51am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
I think he said "grey basket" because he was on the air. He's been called on this before on certain UFO sightings so he's probaby now watching his P's and Q's.

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I just listened to the segment in question again from Stanton Friedman's May 7th appearance on C2C. He was on for 3/4's of the first half hour segment talking about the then posted "Chad" images. I'd forgotten that Stan went on that long about it, but he was mostly using the time to outline his philosophy on UFOs in general.

To sum of the the pertinent points concerning the craft he said:

- "We don't know anything about the camera that took the pictures."

- "I've never seen anything that looks like that... that flies - it looks like some sort of super-special helicopter.

- "my first cut at it is that it's phoney combination really.... sort of a model, combined with pictures of the outdoors... that's as close to anything that I'm willing to stick my neck out on this"

- "never before have I heard anyone report a UFO that looks like this"

- "the lettering on the craft isn't anything like the Roswell craft"

- "if this thing is real, my best guess is that it's a UAV"

-" it's in my grey basket, at best"

ATO, I'm aware of Stanton's "grey basket" posture. I sensed a little bit of a "not invented here" attitude in Stanton's tone and comments with this. He frequently seems to be somewhat dismissive of investigations with which he's not directly involved. However, I think his closing remarks indicated that he still had a curious take on this one.


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