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« Reply #75 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 1:11pm »

Well, forget the colors. I'm manipulating all of the information in those image files to attempt to bring out something we might otherwise miss... the colors are insignificant (and have been manipulated).
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« Reply #76 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 1:19pm »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 1:11pm, jlc767 wrote:
Well, forget the colors. I'm manipulating all of the information in those image files to attempt to bring out something we might otherwise miss... the colors are insignificant (and have been manipulated).


Just the color or the (what looks like) a "T" also?
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« Reply #77 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 1:21pm »

Just the color. The "T" is there.

I've also examined the high-resolution pictures (i-beams, etc.) and attempted to sharpen them, etc. and didn't find anything. They look pretty damn real.
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« Reply #78 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 1:25pm »

Nice work, jlc767. Actually the color is significant. It's blue in the original with no manipulation. I checked it for a digital watermark and none was detected (covert or otherwise). That would imply that this is a watermark in the actual paper itself identifying the manufacturer (perhaps). Some type of engineering paper supplier? Can you hoax a watermark? Sure, simply by creating two or more graphic layers. If genuine it could be traced which might give us still more info on the documents time line and location.

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« Reply #79 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 1:34pm »



That watermark may represent the word Technical.
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« Reply #80 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 1:42pm »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 1:11pm, jlc767 wrote:
Well, forget the colors. I'm manipulating all of the information in those image files to attempt to bring out something we might otherwise miss... the colors are insignificant (and have been manipulated).


I did the lower gamma thing with my own software and noticed the blue T. There might be some significance to the blue color.
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« Reply #81 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 1:46pm »

My thought process was that the "T" is something physical behind the piece of paper being scanned or copied. No?
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« Reply #82 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 1:59pm »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 12:03pm, DarkDragon wrote:
I do not want to argue. But, all this proves is the crafts are like we said. Man made.
This guy puts this story out here and wants to stay anonymous. Ok, so lets point out you were DOD You moved thru the ranks faster than your piers, your exact dates of employment and you have a web site.
Well guess what pal. They knew who you were before they even finished your letter. You have got to be kidding me.
If this person is telling the truth. He has already committed suicide. He hog tied himself, then choked his self out with piano wire.
Or he is sitting back getting his jollies off on his hoax. I am not buying it.
You have given them way more than enough info to bag your butt. Come forward now.
Anyone buying this. I am selling a bridge crossing the bearing straight. Call me let's make a deal.

NOTHING has been solved. This guy just added to the mystery.


DarkDragon, I've seen many posts by you where you claim to have either an INSIDE source or knowledge. I've yet to see you name them. So to call someone out about releasing documents real or fake. Seems like the pot calling the kettle black.

IF your claims are true and YOU'RE concerned about YOUR source. Then why wouldn't you think someone else would be concerned about his life. Your argument makes NO sense. Dan
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« Reply #83 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 2:03pm »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 1:46pm, jlc767 wrote:
My thought process was that the "T" is something physical behind the piece of paper being scanned or copied. No?


I don't think so (but, I could be wrong smiley). The blue is kind of tell-tale, it used to be called "non-photo" blue as it doesn't copy as well as black or other colors. If it were something mechanical behind the document it would appear more like a shadow, the "T" is very precise. Also, the paper would have to be fairly thin or transparent.
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« Reply #84 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 2:14pm »



GForce, I love that new avatar. I have never seen that one, how appropriate for right now. grin grin grin

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« Reply #85 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 2:20pm »

The SICD is not hoaxed.

It is real.

You are not ready for the truth.

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« Reply #86 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 2:20pm »

solarwind says:
"Isaac" already KNOWS what this info represents and allegedly wants to reveal part of it to the world while maintaining his anonymity. What exactly is wrong with that approach?

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let me get this straight.. some guy named "isaac" walks in off the street and shows pictures, of what we dont know, and asserts his status, which we dont know, claiming hes got pictures that, for all you know, might be a diagram for assembling a model railroad.. and you're buying this? im looking for evidence that what he has is something that suggests a conclusion that says what, exactly? what does it prove? i can take pictures of a toaster with wings, supplement it with instructions in chinese about how to build a sand castle and claim its a message from aliens who stayed over at my house last wekend.. would you buy it if i promised its real?? cant you see the self-serving nature of this post? are you so desperate for evidence of something, you dont know when you're reading proof of nothing?
maybe you'd be interested in how to buy foreclosure properties at NO RISK TO YOURSELF!! how about WORK FROM HOME--MAKE THOUSANDS MONTHLY!!

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That is what forums and websites are all about remoat. This story is all over the Internet. I doubt that there is a UFO/alien oriented website that hasn't already posted this story. From there it flows over into a large number of news companies. Forums and websites are like the news and until such an individual hears the news, such as Issac, then how else could anyone find out about it.

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you are absolutely right.. forums are for the free and stimulating exchange of ideas.. they dont have to be good ideas, or feasible ideas, or original ideas, or credible ideas.. but, an exchange of ideas presupposes that one who proposes ideas, or proposals or hypotheses, or whatever must also be prepared to receive comments in return, and these comments might be supportive, or questioning, or humorous, or left-field, or even, heavens forbid, analytical! your point seems to be, well, its all over the internet, so aside from being well-publicized its been time-tested, audience-tested and found to have weatherd the trials of credulity, technical feasibility and being fun to read.. well, i guess i missed the report of this story in time magazine, the new york times, the wall street journal, and all the cable news networks.. you mention its reported in many UFO websites and its all over the internet.. im sorry to disabuse you of a cherished notion, but UFO websites arent deemed reliable sources for significant news coverage.. if coverage throughout the internet is a criteria for the importance of a news story, have you heard the one about elvis being kidnapped byaliens and rushed to a far-off planet where he's working on a new album? it's on every elvis website and in most of his fan blogs.. to anyone who wants to show remarkable evidence of something really weird that's true: 1) if you want to make a stong argument, do it on a solid foundation: present evidence to an impartial judge for an un-biased opinion; 2) find a second impartial judge who also gives an unbiased opinion; 3) find someone who can give an impartial opinion on the significance of the find (establish conext and meaning); 4) find someone who will argue against your position(s); be able to refute each point compellingly; 5) release the findings of your impartial associates.. even better if they
agree to asnwer questions and challenges from the media and anyone who disputes your discovery..

bottom line: if you want your opinion, evidence, photos, audio tapes, quotations from other sources, etc., to be taken seriously, you have to make the serious effort to show that what you've got is: 1) accurate; 2) compelling; 3) complete in detail; 4) supported by sources of information which have no personal stake in the outcome of your story; 5) supported by independent investigation which, using your info as a starting point, duplicates your results or conclusions.

you can believe anything and anyone you choose; but, to ask others to agree with your propsotion, your story has to be believable.. i dont see anything in this story by "isaac" that is necessarily believable or credible.. i will say isaac spins a good yarn.. so did the guys who wrote "close encounters..", "jaws", "contact" and "2001".. they were great fun, too..
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« Reply #87 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 2:22pm »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 2:03pm, MarkM wrote:
I don't think so (but, I could be wrong smiley). The blue is kind of tell-tale, it used to be called "non-photo" blue as it doesn't copy as well as black or other colors. If it were something mechanical behind the document it would appear more like a shadow, the "T" is very precise. Also, the paper would have to be fairly thin or transparent.


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http://glossary.ippaper.com/default.asp?req=glossary/term/1558&catitemid=

It says it cannot be photographically reproduced. How is it that it is on the scans then?
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« Reply #88 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 2:27pm »

on Jun 27th, 2007, 2:20pm, remoat wrote:
remoat says:
let me get this straight.. some guy named "isaac" walks in off the street and shows pictures, of what we dont know, and asserts his status, which we dont know, claiming hes got pictures that, for all you know, might be a diagram for assembling a model railroad.. and you're buying this?


Right. That's EXACTLY how this has all gone down. So glad that you were paying attention these past few months. Now, why don't you stick your insults in your back pocket, take a breath, and actually study what's been presented? Your statement above is so absurd that I can only believe that you haven't bothered to take the time to actually research this the way many folks here have.
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« Reply #89 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 2:31pm »

Sorry if I sound a bit tense folks. But I'm amazed that here we have some documents either real or fake to discuss. Which BTW none of us know for sure one way or the other on the authenticity. And debunkers are coming out of the woodwork to discredit them WITHOUT any facts. Its one thing to give a theory or opinion on them. But to critize without without a shread of evidence to back up a claim is ridiculous. If you want ME to believe these are fake than prove to me they are. Till then I will take them at face value! THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE!
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