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« Reply #900 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 07:47am »

This is a great thread, about the best I've seen on this topic. So I'm following with keen interest to see how this develops. As others have stated seems like either an elaborate hoax or the real thing. But even as some kind of group effort at a hoax or psychology class experiment it just seems too detailed and complex. Just look at the scrutiny and analysis going on here.

Somehow this needs to get into the mainstream media and it's surprising to me that it hasn't. Maybe like many of us they are straddling the fence and don't want to commit one way or the other or until more information comes forth, or the prospect of being real would be too much of a reality for the public to deal with? Seems like the media jumps on other less significant (UFO) stories easy enough.

On the invisibility aspect, just a thought, instead of light manipulation what about time manipulation. Let's say that the object is a microsecond or even a nano second into the future or past (relative to our present), to an observer looking directly at the object he wouldn't see it, it would be essentially invisible. This might explain why a camera or video might pick up such an image as the camera mechanism could synchronize either slightly ahead of the next future microsecond or behind enough to catch an image. For example a video of the television sometimes picks up horizontal lines not visible in real-time.


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« Reply #901 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 07:54am »

HI MARK M; IT WAS A LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR AGO WHEN I HAD THE DREAM; IN THE DREAM I APEARD ON EITHER A HILL OR A MOUNTAIN LOOKING OUT INTO A VALLEY LIKE THAT OF CHADs PHOTOS; ANYWAY AT FIRST THIS FEMALE WAS TALKINF TO ME I KEPT ASKING HER QUESTIONS CAUSE I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE WAS SAYING this DREAM WAS IN BROAD DAY LIGHT ALL THE TIME I AM TALKING WITH THIS LADY THAT IS REALY JUST AVOICE I AM VIEWING THIS CRAFT THAT SHE IS TELLING ABOUT IS REALY MY QUESTION AND YET I CANT SEE HER NOR CAN I UNDERSTAND HER : NOW THE WOMAN VOICE LEAVES AND NOW COMES THE MALE VOICE , SAME THING HE IS NOT VISABLE AND JUST A VOICE TELLING ME ABOUT THIS CRAFT THAT I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT HE IS SAYING YET THE WORDA FROM THE MALE AND FEMALE ARE CLEAR AS MYSELF AND YOU ARE IN A COVERSATION CLOSE BY ONE ANOTHER. THE VERY SAME MORNING I SAW THIS ON CASE FILE I TOLD ON WHICH ONE FORUM THAT IT THE STRANGE CRAFT WAS REAL; NOW IF YOU CHECK THE THOE FORUM YOU WILL SEE AND A MATER OF FACT THE NITE BEFORE YOU ALL SENT ME ALL THOSE EMAILS ABOUT THIS CRAFT I HAD A DREAM THAT IPOSTED ON THE BEGING OF THIS TOPIC : WHICH WAS ABOUT A MOVIE STAR WITH A SIT COM CALLED MOESHA, RAY JAY I THINK HER LITLE IS CALLED <MY DAUGHTER WACHES THE PROGRAM ALL THE TIME . YOU SAID SOMTHING YESTERDAY THAT IS THE ANSWER TO THE PUZZLE I WILL BE RIGHT> wink
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« Reply #902 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:14am »

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The recount of your dream brought to mind a song from Eric Burton and the Animals "Spill the Wine". If you've never heard it you might want to check it out, don't know if it means anything though.

SPILL THE WINE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9oZkyz0xco
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« Reply #903 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:21am »

MARKM ; LISTEN TO( ATO) SHE IS VERY INTELECTUAL, THOSE BEINGS THAT ARE DISAGREEABLE WELL PLAY JOKES ON US WHEN WE DO HAVE THE REAL THING. TRUST ME THEY LOVE TO LAUGH AT US< THEY WILL LET US WORK SO HARD UNTIL WE START TO LOSE OUR MIND I MEDITATE ON THEASE DREAMS WHAT I SEE WHILE I AM AWAKE THEY BOTHER ME ALL THE TIME,THEY DO NOT HAVE FELLINGS FOR HUMAN BEINGS.NOW THE AGREEABLE BEINGS WILL WARN YOU IF YOU DONT LISTEN I WILL SAY THIS IF YOU FIND YOUR HEAD NOT FELLING WELL OR SOMETHING TELLS YOU TO QUIT OR DONT DO SOMETHING PLEASE LEAVE IT ALONE CAUSE ONCE YOU HAVE AN ACIDENT THE AGREEABLES WILL STE IN AT THE END RESULTS AND SAY MANY OF THINGS SUCH AS I ASK YOU NOT TO GO FURTHER OR I TOLD YOU TO LEAVE IT ALONE ECT. NOW YOU ARE AN ARTIST < TELL ME CAN AN ARTIST PAINT A PICTURE THAT NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN? QUOTE FROM MARK M; IM NOT SURE HOW THIS COULD BE RESEARCHED FURTHER OR IF IT WARRANTS ANY MORE FILLING AWAY IN OUR HEADS FOR NOW.) THEY ETS ARE SO FAR AHEAD OF US JUST LISTEN TO THIS ( THEY ARE SO WHAT WE CALL INTELIGENT THAT THEY CAN CREATE A WHOLE GALAXCI< JUST ONE OF THEM, THINK <NOTHING IS ACHEIVED BY FORCE) MIND YOUR MIND FOR THE JEWELS OF YOUR SOUL. MY DAUGHTER REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING WHEN SHE WAS IN GINDERGARDEN, SHE WAS TRING TO TELL ME SOMTHING AND I WAS NOT PAYING FULL ATENTION TO HER WHAT SHE SAID WAS DAD WE HAVE TWO EYES TWO EARS AND ONE MOUTH, SIMPLY PUT LOOK AND LISTEN MORE, IT NOT BAD WHEN ONE LISTEN TO THE INNER VOICE INSIDE THEIR OWN HEAD AS LONG AS IT IS FOR YOU R OWN SALVATION> care cool
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« Reply #904 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:23am »

Gort, welcome to the thread.

It does indeed seem puzzling that the media hasn't picked this up yet. Even if they dismiss it as a hoax, the fact is that if it is a hoax, then it's a most wonderful hoax, and hence surely deserving some column inches. I would guess that because this is such a big deal, maybe the press are waiting for more definitive information, otherwise there could be a lot of egg on a lot of faces.

Again on invisibility, if the craft existed in the future or the past, we would still see the craft. For every time slice there would still be a spatial location for the craft and the observer. Say an object will exist one second into the future, all we have to do is wait one second to see it.

When a recording of a tv image picks up horizontal lines, i believe that this is because the video recorder samples the image at a faster rate than the tv image itself refreshes. The video is able to capture the separate still images of the tv as they get projected to the screen. The TV refresh rate is set at a frequency that is faster than what our eyes can resolve, hence we ourselves cannot directly see the lines.
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« Reply #905 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:24am »

HI ALL: IT IS NICE TO BE IMPORTANT< BUT IT IS ALLSO IMPORTANT TO BE NICE! grin
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xx Re: MYSTERY of the DRONES -SOLVED??? - ASK ISAAC
« Reply #906 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:30am »

I need some clarification regarding Chad and some of the previous drone-related imagery. What's the story behind most of these sightings? i.e., how did the sighting unfold (decloak?), how many pictures were taken and how did the encounter "end"? Did the drone soar off over a hillside, or cloak? Did Chad (or any of the others) follow the thing? If so, where did it go?

Obviously, I've never seen one of these things, but I can assure you that if I did I'd follow it until I couldn't possibly follow it any further. You know? I'm just sorta surprised that if we have this many witnesses and this amount of imagery - you'd expect more images. And images of a higher quality. And more information in general. If I overlooked something, can someone point me in the right direction to where I can find some of this info?

And, also, most of this drone-related stuff was released on C2C, correct? I'm just trying to fill in the blanks.
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« Reply #907 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:32am »

on Jul 2nd, 2007, 07:05am, CloudBreak wrote:
Heh RoH,

Regarding your post number 14. It's really good of you to take the effort of finding descriptions for some of the scientific terms that are not in everyday use. However I don't understand what you are doing in your large image. Where you have

BA->AB and BS->b

on what basis do you place the "Isaac" symbols to the right, and why that order?

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It is to show how the symbols may work in a formal grammer.
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A formal grammar defines (or generates) a formal language, which is a (possibly infinite) set of sequences of symbols that may be constructed by applying production rules to a sequence of symbols which initially contains just the start symbol. A rule may be applied to a sequence of symbols by replacing an occurrence of the symbols on the left-hand side of the rule with those that appear on the right-hand side. A sequence of rule applications is called a derivation. Such a grammar defines the formal language of all words consisting solely of terminal symbols that can be reached by a derivation from the start symbol.

A formal grammar consists of:
a finite set of terminal symbols;
a finite set of nonterminal symbols;
a finite set of production rules with a left- and a right-hand side consisting of a sequence of these symbols
a start symbol.

The START symbol may be represented by the star symbol, if you look at the diagram you will see that
the "code" starts with this symbol.

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Maybe the symbol for the complete representation of the whole system?

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« Reply #908 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:43am »

Ah..., thanks.

I see what you mean about the terminals now. By terminals I presume you mean the two crosses, not the octal numbers? See top right of your diagram for my confussion there.

It does indeed seem that these terminals are used in many places to begin and end various strings. Not everywhere though?
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« Reply #909 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:51am »

I don't know if am the only one who is getting a bit tired of th "drones", the first picture was amazing, the next that followed was amazing aswell, but the recent addition just seems too fake (i admit that haven't read all the pages of this post yet so i might be far behind most).

As far as i know, no one can get in contact with the people who took the pictures wich itself is a bit strange or atleast it is for me. Isaac is understandable if he indeed is who is says he is. But again, i can also be behind on the info's on that aswell smiley

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I need some clarification regarding Chad and some of the previous drone-related imagery. What's the story behind most of these sightings? i.e., how did the sighting unfold (decloak?), how many pictures were taken and how did the encounter "end"? Did the drone soar off over a hillside, or cloak? Did Chad (or any of the others) follow the thing? If so, where did it go?


I was also thinking nearly that exact same thing, not many information regarding the end of the ecounters have been put forward wich also makes one wonder. I would also follow the damned thing untill it was impossible to keep up with it or see it anymore. I only think there have been 1 person who described how the drone flew away over some trees if i remember it correctly.

Could all this just be a very well made hoax that have fooled all of us? Or is it the real thing we've been looking for all this time?

Just my thoughts about the whole case untill now.
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« Reply #910 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:59am »

RoH - very impressive work. You've obviously put a lot of time and thought into your presentation and it's much appreciated!

This not being my forte I'm doing my best to process it all smiley. Your scan incorporates pasted text along with graphics from the Isaac papers. Is this from a general reference that can be accessed? I need all the help I can get!

On the question of the media, I think there are at least major two factors at play here, (1) as someone with a marketing background it's a challenge getting their attention unless it's a very slow news day, lots going on in the world right now that's less controversial, (2) no one wants to be a fool, if this is a hoax it would be a PR nightmare for them.

I'm personally more disappointed in the high profile UFO researchers. While I understand that no one wants to have egg on their face, their active participation in this investigation could go a long way in helping to resolve this, one way or the other.

No matter which side of the fence we come down on, with only a few exceptions there's a bit of a hedge on all our bets. That's understandable, it's also staying open minded! More information from Isaac or more sightings with photos would certainly help.

On a final note, it occurred to me last night that individuals from Isaacs team might indeed be aware of all this and providing information anonymously in posts via forums like this.
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« Reply #911 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 09:04am »

on Jul 2nd, 2007, 12:31am, Isaw1again wrote:
Also I wholeheartedly agree that we can succeed where CARET might have missed something.
By now (20 yrs later) they have learned a great deal and most likely understand the "language"

What we have just learned about ET is so old news to them they dont care...Our lesson was like "kindergarden"... They may be in elementary school by now?
But we like it... Keep it coming Isaac...
We need a lil bit more info.
Thanks,
Ron


lol -- I will have to admit I have made some real kindergarten posts here, and to all of you experts out there, please forgive me. The way I process information is by figuring it out in my head and I have kinda just posted stuff as I went. I am sure most of the stuff has already been figured out on some thread 5 years ago or whatever, -- just humor me -- As a noobie, its still fun to try and figure it all out. I think we are making progress.

I really like Farmboy's posts, especially about the invisibility explanation in post 904.

I appreciate MarkM's brainstorming with me.

Judgement, please lay off the CAPS it makes your posts hard to read.

Atrueoriginal, thank you for all the work you have done here on these last few busy days!!
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« Reply #912 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 09:06am »

on Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:32am, RoH wrote:
It is to show how the symbols may work in a formal grammer.
A formal grammar consists of:
a finite set of terminal symbols;
a finite set of nonterminal symbols;
a finite set of production rules with a left- and a right-hand side consisting of a sequence of these symbols
a start symbol.
The START symbol may be represented by the star symbol, if you look at the diagram you will see that
the "code" starts with this symbol.

Maybe the symbol for the complete representation of the whole system?



Roh, no offense meant here, but you are basing these things on terrestrial rules of language. Heaven knows what kind of rules are followed for a language not of this world.

So, my question to you is, are you on this path in order to develop proof (as much as it can be developed) that this is an actual earthly language on this thing?
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« Reply #913 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 09:20am »

Going back, just for a moment (promise) to the intent behind the symbols - how did you react when you looked at them? We touched on this briefly in the beginning and I still think it's an important part of this experience (that's what appears to be unfolding). If, as Isaac says, the symbols are coherent "wholes" of an idea, command, whatever you call it, then they might effect the human perception in much the same way that a mandala is intended to. In fact, crop circles share more than a few similarities with mandalas. My point here is that while trying to decipher these symbols as a language we might do well to pay attention to the emotional response that they elicit.

http://www.mandalaproject.org/What/Main.html
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« Reply #914 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 09:26am »

on Jul 2nd, 2007, 09:06am, Max wrote:
Roh, no offense meant here, but you are basing these things on terrestrial rules of language. Heaven knows what kind of rules are followed for a language not of this world.

So, my question to you is, are you on this path in order to develop proof (as much as it can be developed) that this is an actual earthly language on this thing?


At first, it was mind boggling to even try to comprehend what Roh was trying to say (because I am NOT a computer programmer) but it does kind of make sense especially about the start/stop codes. I really don't think he is trying to prove its an earthly language, and trying to figure out an ET language with earthly parameters probably won't work, BUT... there could be some similarities worth looking at. Sometimes you just have to start with what you know, and start pecking at it, then processes of trial and error lead to truths.
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