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« Reply #1035 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 1:58pm »

Some of you interested in "drones" might find this site interesting: www.keelynet.com
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« Reply #1036 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:01pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 1:24pm, dhq wrote:
My favorite is the pig.

Just be sure to use a condom wink
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« Reply #1037 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:03pm »

Latitude: is that for my protection or the pigs?
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« Reply #1038 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:04pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 1:29pm, WatchingWaiting wrote:
Lighting suggests illumination from bottom and sides but not the top. White floor, white walls, dark ceiling?


Perhaps the object is sitting on a light table.
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« Reply #1039 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:07pm »

Yeah, and it's either the biggest light table in the world or someone cut out the background (white, white and more white)...

Was that possible then?
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« Reply #1040 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:11pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 08:18am, j w wright wrote:
nah, you're guessing about procedure, humans become bored and apathetic by routine, and there is always plenty fo room for shortcuts and the like

say your teams prints are getting a bit ragged and worn, you destroy 'em and order more prints, you need them quickly, or some other unforseen situation, and they get pushed through pronto

or you know the guy in the photo department who has some below par prints lying around, or maybe hes off to lunch when you stop by and he has a stack of bad prints in his 'destroy' tray

far too many variables to guess at, when working with people you be sure there will be plenty of procedural disconnects and workarounds

on Jun 29th, 2007, 3:26pm, DrDil wrote:
Isaac stresses how much he would stand to lose if he ever leaked ANYTHING he was being told. And how privileged the position was that he held as a CIVILIAN.

Isaac Wrote,
“I was also starting to disagree with the direction the leadership wanted to take as far as the subject of extra-terrestrials went……The truth is, our management didn't even want us discussing non-technical aspects of this subject (such as ethical or philosophical issues), even among ourselves, as they felt it was enough of a breach of security to let civilians like us anywhere near this kind of thing in the first place.”

Again, stressing how important it was to not even discuss with colleagues the implications or origins of anything they were shown, again he mentions CIVILIANS.

The problem I have with this lies in the report/s he leaked. It has the name at the top (PALO ALTO CARET LABORATORY Q4-86 RESEARCH REPORT) this is normal but bearing in mind what he has told us in the quotes above, WHERE IS THE CLASSIFICATION?. Every document that is not meant for public consumption is marked with some sort of classification.

The pictures below come from a report which was classified in the UK and, “SECRET DISCREET” means it is to be shared with the US. Understandably, due to the non-specific implications of the classification they renamed this not long after to “UK & US EYES ONLY.” But I digress……………………….

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And the picture below appears at the bottom of EVERY PAGE.
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This method is evident in nearly every document I’ve seen, not just governmental ones but (confidential) private sector ones too. It seems absurd after all of the constant reminders about security that this would be allowed to happen.

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Isaac Wrote,
“A page from an inventory review with a photo that appears to depict one of the parts found in the Rajman sighting and parts very similar to the Big Basin craft
The first 9 pages of one of our quarterly research reports
Scans of the original photographs”



Another security issue that greatly bothers me is the fact that these are the exact same photos that we see in the finished report, Isaac even states this himself. Now I may just be a little naïve, but surely if these have been supplied they would have to be signed for or some form of tracking would be in place (to prevent removal.) I would also imagine that all of the computers in such a laboratory would inevitably have ghost/key stroke logger software running on them, or even real time monitoring software.

Surely something/someone monitoring would have realised the photographs were being scanned and if so would have to ask why. And it wasn’t for the final report as he has already said that the PHOTOCOPIED images don’t show up well which is why he scanned the images. Which means he wouldn’t have to scan the images for the report, merely photocopy them.

Which brings us full circle as to whether the scanners in 1987 were capable of producing what is even by todays standards a remarkably clear picture. As it appears that this is what he is saying.

Isaac Wrote,
“The antigrav was amazing, of course, as were the advances we were making with materials engineering and so on. But what interested me most then, and still amazes me most to this day, was something completely unrelated. In fact, it was this technology that immediately jumped out at me when I saw the Chad and Rajman photos, and even moreso in the Big Basin photos.”

He then specifies he’s talking about the, “Language.” Which, “Jumped” out on him in the Big Basin images. They are hardly visible at all without zooming right in.
Is this a genuine mistake. As this was the point at which he spurred him on to deciding that he should go public, would a little detail like this be overlooked?

Anyway, here’s quite a few more troubling things which I’m currently trying to research at the minute. Considering how much information he supplied us there’s very little to work with in terms of the, “Real world.”

Like verifying in any way anything he said………………………………

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« Reply #1041 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:12pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 2:04pm, AgentM wrote:
Perhaps the object is sitting on a light table.


This from spf33 of OMF:

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« Reply #1042 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:14pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 08:18am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Not necessarily and we weren't there. I imagine after 3 years, after everyone gets to know everyone the place could easily get a little relaxed and your peers are at some point not considered a threat to their cause.

After all, he did state that he snuck them out.
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That would mean that the report he was reading was his, the culmination of his research as it was dated December 1986, if this is the case why would they black out text on his copy of the report that he had written?
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« Reply #1043 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:16pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 1:24pm, dhq wrote:
Now to important stuff. The pig. Its a pig, My favorite is the pig.

Look dhq, for the last time, the object of your fascination is basically a crawling cylinder hone. It has some wheeled sensors and a motor. It has nothing to do with the device that is being discussed on this thread. We would welcome your serious input but please drop the pig nonsense. Thank you.
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« Reply #1044 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:17pm »

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This from spf33 of OMF:


That would explain it.
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« Reply #1045 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:19pm »

Very good Latitude:

The military has very competent professional type photographers. They probably had one of these guys come to Caret Program Reseach in 1987 and take professional type photos of the A1 object ( and other alien artifacts as well).

They come with their seamless paper backdrops, lights, reflectors, etc., etc.

That is one way they could have a degree of security control over the negatives and the prints.

They didn't count on Isaac making off with their prints of the A1.

Good job Isaac! Right on!
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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #1046 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:20pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 2:11pm, DrDil wrote:


Great job Dr Dil... looks like you've been around the block.
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« Reply #1047 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:21pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 12:29pm, beenieweenie wrote:
No harm in bringing it up though, so we don't have to debate it later on.

I've seen government documents - classified (by accident?) and de-classified - here at work (a surplus dealer) - and if my memory serves me correctly, they're not all double-sided.


Ok, but I think Isaac's report was intended to be printed double-sided because of the page-setting. Pair pages are always on the left and odd (impair/unpair? -please choose the right word tongue) pages on the right.
Usually, in a one-sided document, the page-setting is not made that way (it is centered). If the report is true and scanned from a printed book, we should see the backside of the pages.
I don't know what to think. At the same time, I'm sure the hoaxers would have studied this problem (which is a little challenge in regards to this kind of hoax). huh
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« Reply #1048 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:22pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 12:29pm, beenieweenie wrote:
I've seen government documents - classified (by accident?) and de-classified - here at work (a surplus dealer) - and if my memory serves me correctly, they're not all double-sided. Most of the stuff we get comes from the Dept of Defense, and SPAWAR (Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center, San Diego) - as well as Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, and Boeing (including old McDonnell-Douglas and Convair stuff).

Did any of it carry a classification stamp?
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« Reply #1049 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:24pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 2:17pm, jlc767 wrote:
That would explain it.


In my former business we used a light table that was 60" x 100" . The surface was diffused polycarbonate.
We could control the intesity of the light. We used it for locating impurities or flaws in specialty glass products.
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