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« Reply #1065 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:47pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 2:42pm, MarkM wrote:
However ----- if I were Bungie (or wanted to discredit this) how hard would it be to incorporate some of this imagery?

Anything that is produced after the appearance of the first documented craft should be subject to additional scrutiny. And, yes, that applies to any new "Isaac" documents. Maybe even more so. Copy cats reproduce quickly. We've already shown how easy it would be.

I agree Mark.............
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« Reply #1066 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:48pm »

I was working on a detailed entry on reflections that seem to be off in another photo. My son pushed the power on the PC and I lost it. I still think the angle and height are wrong to be the arches in photo 1, but I'll leave that one alone for the moment.

Give me a few minutes to recreate what I was working on. I'll be curious to see what you think JW.
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« Reply #1067 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:49pm »

As an addicted Halo gamer (I do have a life besides video games), I can say that I have never seen any objects resembling these drones during any of my many hours of gameplay. Neither have I noticed anything resembling the strange symbols.

I seriously doubt that Bungie would throw this elaborate hoax together just to promote Halo 3. I think if anything, it would just annoy people to find out it was a hoax.

Also, I would think that Bungie, especially with the fame and success it recieved from Halo 2, would go for a more massive audience than just the ufo community. Just my two cents.
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« Reply #1068 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:50pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 2:35pm, jlc767 wrote:
It doesn't look slightly concave at all. If anything a few degrees convex.


you;re right, from the image where the agrav is active, that surface is slightly convex

which would still explain the distorted reflection of the i-beams
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« Reply #1069 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:53pm »

On the security question (told you I'm still catching up) - I did consulting work for a company that did checks before we could leave the building. You couldn't have a jacket on, all bags, etc. were emptied. After a few months, you establish a relationship with the loss prevention / security guys. At some point the routine becomes less formal, it's like they don't want to insult you by being too thorough. This was even more lax with management. I got information later on that a lot of "eyes only" things walked out.

Isaac said he put the papers in his waistband in the back. Look carefully at some of the photos and you'll see cracks in the coating of the paper. This would indicate some kind of bending. Unless they did strip searches, things got by. Remember also that the 80's weren't like today. This was pre 911 security. Military yes, but in a civilian facility.
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« Reply #1071 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 2:57pm »

LUA said: "Anyone reached a conclusion on the watermark of the Issac docs?"

It's just an artifact of the scanner. It appears on a lot of scans. Try it yourself.

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« Reply #1072 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:01pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 2:22pm, DrDil wrote:
Did any of it carry a classification stamp?


Well - some documents had no stamps at all, however (I distinctly remember one case about 3 years ago) NCIS told us they were classified when they confiscated them - along with piece of equipment we had listed on eBay. In that case, they had come to retrieve some kind of mil-spec transceiver/radio - didn't look like anything special, but they sure wanted it back. The docs and radio were unrelated, but came on the same pallet, which we showed them. (I hope that all made sense)

In other cases we've had documents that only had a "de-classified" stamp, and then some documents that had "classified" stamped only on certain pages. I don't recall ever seeing anything that had both "classified" and "de-classified" stamps.

Then again, the stuff we get comes from different branches of military, so I think it's safe to say every agency does things a little different.
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« Reply #1073 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:01pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 2:53pm, MarkM wrote:
On the security question (told you I'm still catching up) - I did consulting work for a company that did checks before we could leave the building. You couldn't have a jacket on, all bags, etc. were emptied. After a few months, you establish a relationship with the loss prevention / security guys. At some point the routine becomes less formal, it's like they don't want to insult you by being too thorough.

on Jul 11th, 2007, 2:42pm, DrDil wrote:
This is a little more than just classified stuff. It’s essentially photographs, the very existence of which would have profound and world wide implications that would extend to practically every intelligent, living being on the planet.

I feel a little more emphasis would be placed on the security side when dealing with an alien antigravity device obtained from a crashed alien spacecraft.
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« Reply #1074 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:09pm »

Agree, DrDil, one would think security would be better!

OK, it took me less than ten minutes to do this. I Googled starships (image search), got a big chart of Star Trek craft, picked the craft closest to the BB drone, flipped it 180 degrees, inverted the BB photo (so the colors would be visually consistent between the two images), and - AMAZING! Proof that the BB craft was a rip off of Star Trek.

Sorry, similar doesn't cut it.

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« Reply #1075 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:13pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:01pm, beenieweenie wrote:
Well - some documents had no stamps at all, however (I distinctly remember one case about 3 years ago) NCIS told us they were classified when they confiscated them - along with piece of equipment we had listed on eBay. In that case, they had come to retrieve some kind of mil-spec transceiver/radio - didn't look like anything special, but they sure wanted it back. The docs and radio were unrelated, but came on the same pallet, which we showed them. (I hope that all made sense)

In other cases we've had documents that only had a "de-classified" stamp, and then some documents that had "classified" stamped only on certain pages. I don't recall ever seeing anything that had both "classified" and "de-classified" stamps.

Then again, the stuff we get comes from different branches of military, so I think it's safe to say every agency does things a little different.


Thanks for that, while we’re on the subject I feel again it’s necessary to state what the far reaching implications of this information actually were. In fact I already have, here’s the quote,
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on Jun 29th, 2007, 8:07pm, DrDil wrote:
I think we’ll just have to agree to differ on this subject, if your theory is correct then I suspect a lot more than just Isaac (and his information) would have come to light before now. And we obviously have different opinions on the gravity (pun intended) and implications of the technology under discussion.

It declared in the first paragraph that it’s, “Extraterrestrial technology”.

There’s far too many problems with the full Isaac story and documents that he released. For example,

1. OVERVIEW

This document is intended as a primer on the tentative findings of the Q4 1986 research phase (referred to herein as "Q4-86") at the Palo Alto CARET Laboratory (PACL). In accordance with the CARET program mission statement, the goal of this research has been achieving a greater understanding of extraterrestrial technology within the context of commercial applications and civilian use. Examples of such applications, in no particular order, include transportation, medicine, construction, energy, computing and communication. The ultimate goal of this research is to provide a core set of advanced technologies in a condition suitable for patent review.


Why would a research report include what is essentially a mission statement divulging its ultimate goal. Who is this to be presented to? They certainly wouldn’t tell industry where it’s from. And anybody involved with the organization and in a position that would entitle them to see the report wouldn’t be best pleased at damning evidence such as this and the admission of the absolute existence of vastly superior intelligent, extraterrestrial life-forms.

"2. EXTRACTION

The process of converting raw artifacts of extraterrestrial origin to usable, fully documented human technology is termed extraction. `The extraction process ultimately consists of two phases: first is the establishment of a complete theoretical and operational understanding of the artifact, and second is a distillation of the artifact's underlying principles into a usable, product-oriented technology. Suggestions of specific product applications on behalf of PACL have been encouraged, but are not considered mandatory or essential."


This again seems like it was wrote for the uninitiated man on the street.

“The process of converting raw artifacts of extraterrestrial origin to usable, fully documented human technology is termed extraction”

That’s two for two, first two paragraphs and the smoking gun of UFOlogy becomes irrefutable evidence, again why would anybody involved with the organization reading this report, want to know or need to know the basic terminology for what are obviously highly sensitive documents unless they were cleared to read it in the first place.

And in which case they wouldn’t need the clandestine and covert specifics spelled out in what could easily become proof of the greatest conspiracy mankind has ever known?

That’s just the first two paragraphs, like I said we’ll agree to differ on this one.
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« Reply #1076 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:18pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:09pm, MarkM wrote:
OK, it took me less than ten minutes to do this. I Googled starships (image search), got a big chart of Star Trek craft, picked the craft closest to the BB drone, flipped it 180 degrees, inverted the BB photo (so the colors would be visually consistent between the two images), and - AMAZING! Proof that the BB craft was a rip off of Star Trek.

Sorry, similar doesn't cut it.


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« Reply #1077 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:23pm »

Okay JW, see what you make of this. I still think the angles are wrong to reflect the arches in the first image, but I'm beginning to wonder if these things bend light. If they can cloak, perhaps there is some innate quality in the material that effects the movement of photons. Let me know what you think of this.

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No matter what, the closer you zoom in on these objects the more obvious they are physical and not CGI.
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« Reply #1078 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:25pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:23pm, WatchingWaiting wrote:
Okay JW, see what you make of this. I still think the angles are wrong to reflect the arches in the first image, but I'm beginning to wonder if these things bend light. If they can cloak, perhaps there is some innate quality in the material that effects the movement of photons. Let me know what you think of this.

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No matter what, the closer you zoom in on these objects the more obvious they are physical and not CGI.


these things are floating in the air in the other picture... explain that lol
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« Reply #1079 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:28pm »

I'll agree with you on that, though, some of those reflections are really odd...
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