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« Reply #1080 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:31pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:23pm, WatchingWaiting wrote:
No matter what, the closer you zoom in on these objects the more obvious they are physical and not CGI.


they would be very well done cgi, if they were... but i think you;re right, they're real, whatever they are

the edges of the i beams, where you see the reflections are convex, which distort the reflections like a fish eye lens

what you are expecting is what the reflections would look like if the surfaces were flat, like mirrors

has anyone noticed how the characters are not just printed on the i-beams, but actually appear to be inlaid?

perhaps like the programming material isaac mentioned?

which would make the glyphs have real shape, like actual objects...

could be scanned 'holographically' by whatever compiler is used to run the commands?
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« Reply #1081 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:32pm »

you know.... all of the research we have done and the chatter in here keeps going around in circles.

I know the main debunking websites have called it a hoax, but the thing that makes it believable is:

1. Eyewitness sightings and photos spanning 10 years
2. The technology described in the documents along with what type of work was being done in the facility at the same years matches all kinds of records of what was going on in those years in the realm of computer linguistics and technology.
3. The companies mentioned in the letter all had facilities in the area at that time.
4. you can probably find about 30 - 60 scientists with a background in all of these fields -- just like Isaac said lol
5. The fact that the pieces on the floor of the warehouse at PACL match 2 drones with pieces left over to a possible third drone. (go back and look at my posts from last night) If a hoaxer was doing this, they probably woulnd't think to put pieces on the floor to photograph that DONT match the droneshuh? ehhuh?


Just more proof that this is not hoaxed. And, if I hear about halo again, I am gonna have to borrow the razor blade from jlc.
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« Reply #1082 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:33pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:25pm, castles4me wrote:
these things are floating in the air in the other picture... explain that lol


thats because the antigrav unit was switched on

in these pics, it is off
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« Reply #1083 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:33pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:13pm, DrDil wrote:
on 06/29/2007 at 21:07:30, DrDil wrote:I think we’ll just have to agree to differ on this subject, if your theory is correct then I suspect a lot more than just Isaac (and his information) would have come to light before now. And we obviously have different opinions on the gravity (pun intended) and implications of the technology under discussion.

It declared in the first paragraph that it’s, “Extraterrestrial technology”.

There’s far too many problems with the full Isaac story and documents that he released. For example,

1. OVERVIEW

This document is intended as a primer on the tentative findings of the Q4 1986 research phase (referred to herein as "Q4-86") at the Palo Alto CARET Laboratory (PACL). In accordance with the CARET program mission statement, the goal of this research has been achieving a greater understanding of extraterrestrial technology within the context of commercial applications and civilian use. Examples of such applications, in no particular order, include transportation, medicine, construction, energy, computing and communication. The ultimate goal of this research is to provide a core set of advanced technologies in a condition suitable for patent review.

Why would a research report include what is essentially a mission statement divulging its ultimate goal. Who is this to be presented to? They certainly wouldn’t tell industry where it’s from. And anybody involved with the organization and in a position that would entitle them to see the report wouldn’t be best pleased at damning evidence such as this and the admission of the absolute existence of vastly superior intelligent, extraterrestrial life-forms.

"2. EXTRACTION

The process of converting raw artifacts of extraterrestrial origin to usable, fully documented human technology is termed extraction. `The extraction process ultimately consists of two phases: first is the establishment of a complete theoretical and operational understanding of the artifact, and second is a distillation of the artifact's underlying principles into a usable, product-oriented technology. Suggestions of specific product applications on behalf of PACL have been encouraged, but are not considered mandatory or essential."

This again seems like it was wrote for the uninitiated man on the street.

“The process of converting raw artifacts of extraterrestrial origin to usable, fully documented human technology is termed extraction”

That’s two for two, first two paragraphs and the smoking gun of UFOlogy becomes irrefutable evidence, again why would anybody involved with the organization reading this report, want to know or need to know the basic terminology for what are obviously highly sensitive documents unless they were cleared to read it in the first place.

And in which case they wouldn’t need the clandestine and covert specifics spelled out in what could easily become proof of the greatest conspiracy mankind has ever known?

That’s just the first two paragraphs, like I said we’ll agree to differ on this one.


Dr Dil,

We just need to relax, go out and take a walk and purchase some Hive Scent. grin

Of course they would restate all of this in the 4th quarter report of 1986 (for the Xth number of times)... ya got to keep those copy machines busy and give away your Secret Lab location with all of those paper delivery trucks. rolleyes
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« Reply #1084 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:37pm »

Mr. Wright:

I provided that link because I saw, somewhere in some of those pages. a pic of what they call a "drone". It looks like a cross of the pig (agentm is going jump all over me for that) and the Chad hovering drone over California. They also have schematics of a supposed German ufo.

If I find the proper link for the said drone I'll post it.

By the way, if I dont believe in this story is has nothing to do with the pig pic. It all boils down, for me at least, to the documents and the sloppy "plot" of the Chad/Isaac letters and documents. If he is your shepherd thats fine, but Im not one of his sheep.
That all Ill say regarding this matter Im completely borde now with this non-story.
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Before you all jump all over me, I will not respond to anything more. If after all the whole "drone" story turns out true then I'll post, but intill then - later.
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« Reply #1085 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:37pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:32pm, castles4me wrote:
Just more proof that this is not hoaxed. And, if I hear about halo again, I am gonna have to borrow the razor blade from jlc.

Is that Occam's razor blade?
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« Reply #1086 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:40pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:33pm, bakosawa wrote:
We just need to relax, go out and take a walk and purchase some Hive Scent. grin


you gotta be born with it:

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=lang_en&newwindow=1&safe=off&as_qdr=all&q=entomology+%22Hive+Scent%22
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« Reply #1087 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:40pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:28pm, jlc767 wrote:
I'll agree with you on that, though, some of those reflections are really odd...


If these things affect photons we could both be right on photo 1. The angle could be wrong and still reflect the arches. It would seem to me this makes perfect sense given the purported purpose of these objects.

isawaufooverparis: You asked in an earlier post about the holes on the cover but the lack of holes on the inner pages. The holes are not notebook holes. The are a type of binding. The binding was still intact when he scanned them. He just opened and laid flat like a book.
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« Reply #1088 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:43pm »

j w wrote: "which would make the glyphs have real shape, like actual objects..."

Yes. In a post awhile back regarding the holographic nature of the symbols, I suggested that we equate them more with sculpture rather than with print. They can be "entered" from an infinite number of directions.
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on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:37pm, dhq wrote:
It all boils down, for me at least, to the documents and the sloppy "plot" of the Chad/Isaac letters and documents.


human history is composed entirely of 'sloppy plot'... which hasnt stopped humanity from doing its thing in any way
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« Reply #1090 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:48pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:43pm, MarkM wrote:
j w wrote: "which would make the glyphs have real shape, like actual objects..."

Yes. In a post awhile back regarding the holographic nature of the symbols, I suggested that we equate them more with sculpture rather than with print. They can be "entered" from an infinite number of directions.


yeah, good call, i remember that. i didnt understand it till i saw how the charcters are inlaid, and its a pretty good guess the command diagram is very similar...

infinite? well, at least 360 degrees each on the x y and z axis in this universe anyway... not quite infinite, but close enough for anyones purposes!

works for me!
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« Reply #1091 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 3:51pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:37pm, dhq wrote:
Urantia606: In a nutshell here is my take regarding Roswell. For the firs 30 years after 1947 this non-event was almost completely ignored by the general public and ufologist alike.Why? Because nothing spectacular happend, nobody came forward with fabulistic claims of cute lil' green men all bruised up. The "conception" of this story began when Stanton Freidman was introduced to Jesse Marcel in 1978. Mr Marcel memory was so lost and out of it that he could not even remember the year it took place! The "birth" of this story took place Feb. 1980 when the National Enquire (of all papers) did a story regarding it. From there it took off with all kinds of characters coming out of the woods claiming this and that. Little by little, over the years people began to embelish the story.
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Before you all jump all over me, I will not respond to anything more. If after all the whole "drone" story turns out true then I'll post, but intill then - later.


Just to set the record straight, dhq, you are 100% wrong.

The Roswell story began on the day it happened in July 1947. The Army said it had captured a 'flying disk'. The news went worldwide!

Within 24 hours the Army changed it's story. It then said that a 'weather balloon' had landed and the whole affair was just a lot of nothing.

Please get your facts correct before you post here....otherwise your credibility is zero.
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« Reply #1092 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 4:02pm »

I would highly recommend the new book "Witness To Roswell" that was just released:

http://www.amazon.com/Witness-Roswell-Unmasking-60-Year-Cover-Up/dp/1564149439/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-2054727-6374561?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1184187232&sr=8-1

I rented "Close Encounters: Collectors Edition", that's my project for tonight!
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« Reply #1093 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 4:12pm »

on Jul 11th, 2007, 3:23pm, WatchingWaiting wrote:
Okay JW, see what you make of this. I still think the angles are wrong to reflect the arches in the first image, but I'm beginning to wonder if these things bend light. If they can cloak, perhaps there is some innate quality in the material that effects the movement of photons. Let me know what you think of this.

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No matter what, the closer you zoom in on these objects the more obvious they are physical and not CGI.


Repeat...why would the beams have white letteringon black background...to make things easier for humans eyes to see!? Would expect ET beams to have no lettering at all...internal, focused EM-brain wave fields would announce all there is, and much more, than mere lettering.
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« Reply #1094 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 4:24pm »

Location. Oregon, exact location not given
Date: June 6 2007
Time: afternoon
The witness claims he was walking on a back trail with his dog when he saw six to ten ?ships? fly low overhead. Three of them were inverted ?Y? from the back and front. Those ships landed on a clearing while three more flew overhead. These three were black with a blue outline on the hexagon wings. From the front view they looked like an ?H? with a ball in the center. The ones that landed where white with white blinking lights, such as an aircraft on earth and a constant blue light on the back, their two wings were folded up on the bottom, making a ?W? shape. As they landed they emitted a deep moaning and whining sound like a jet engine. When that happened, 6 ramps, two per ship opened up and then several human-like creatures came out. They wore white with black joint areas, one took off his helmet and he looked very human, he also carried what appeared to be some type of black automatic weapon. There were dozens of ?aliens? some were talking and some were unloading boxes. They spoke English, and seemed to be military but not ?ours?. The witness got a glance inside the only window on the ship closest to him and inside he saw a human wearing a space suit like those of an astronaut and a black helmet. Soon the ships departed and the witness left.

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