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« Reply #1170 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 10:42am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 10:31am, j w wright wrote:
what are we supposed to be seeing here? why not annotate your images so we can see what you're trying to point out


You are right. I'm not an expert... huh
I was only thinking the people analysing the reflections could use the enhancements to see in the dark areas of the object.

Anyway, here's my contribution:
The scatches.

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« Reply #1171 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 10:47am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 10:34am, castles4me wrote:
OK... so you are sure its the Ibeams that is the reflection. Thanks for your expertise, once again JW.


i'm quite certain the two i beams are reflected on those 2 surfaces... the angles appear right for it

i dunno about expertise, i've only always looked at things very closely, in order to draw, paint and model things and people, etc...

my analysis is only my 2, just pointing out whats obvious to me
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« Reply #1172 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 10:48am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 10:42am, LAU wrote:
Anyway, here's my contribution:
The scatches.


how about the tripod you mentioned? i cant place it
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« Reply #1173 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 10:51am »

You know, several times I have surmised that the drones could possibly be floating antigravity devices to keep all of the other "flying discs" up in the air. (or whatever ships are the counterpart to this particular race of beings)

Look at the images that WatchingWaiting posted yesterday....

Both the PERSONAL antigrav device has similar features to the ring from the drone. Seems a plausible deduction then that the drone, or at least some of the drones could be GENERAL antigrav devices.

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« Reply #1174 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 10:57am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 10:00am, castles4me wrote:
Well, Mark has forgiven and moved on... a sure sign of his maturity and integrity.

I think that we (the UFO community in it's entirety) need to all unite instead of compete. A house divided against itself will fall.

We could all get more done if we joined the same team. (whether we agreed on every issue or not, whether we agreed on every hoax or disclosure or not.)

If disclosure comes, where is the world going to turn for information -- To all of the UFO sites. We need a united front. To organize our teams and to be ready to answer questions, lead and direct.


I have not been following this thread. Why? Do you have to ask? UFOlogy has, historically, always had a lot of infighting. It is the nature of UFOlogy that almost assures this. That is because UFOlogy is not a "study" so much as it is a loosely organized pile of data, some authentic some bogus, from which each individual UFO nut creates their own subjective prejudices.

Because there is so little "hard" or agreed upon evidence, UFOLogy is essentially an intellectual vacuum. We all have our individual ideas about what it might be. But nobody knows what it actually is, DESPITE their avowed ideas to the contrary.

The problem isn't UFOlogy. The problem is people who invest their egos into what they think the truth may or may not be. When the ego gets involved, open mindedness is out the window. ZING!!! shocked

Let's face it, NONE of us has a corner on the truth. We are all just guessing here. The problems start when somebody decides that their guess is in some way better than the guesses of others.

In a way, this little thread of smartness melded with infighting and frankly, ignorance is nothing more or less than a microcosm of what is going on in the greater world outside our little area of interest. Our world is one of confusion and frustration becuase we all seem to want different things and we don't have leaders with the intellignce and insight to see that if we fail to learn to cooperate and simply get along together, we are on the road to self destruction.

Castle has a good point here. What are all of you out there doing here? Are you trying to find THE truth, or just your individual subjective notions of it?

To find THE truth, you must relinquish your prejudices and beliefs. You must maintain an open mind. You must consider all ideas and reject your own if they don't fit. To do otherwise is to be narrow minded and prejudiced, just like all of those debunkers you guys so rightfully despise.

C'mon, you don't want to be like those guys, do you? I didn't think so........

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« Reply #1175 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 11:04am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 10:51am, castles4me wrote:
You know, several times I have surmised that the drones could possibly be floating antigravity devices to keep all of the other "flying discs" up in the air. (or whatever ships are the counterpart to this particular race of beings)

Look at the images that WatchingWaiting posted yesterday....

Both the PERSONAL antigrav device has similar features to the ring from the drone. Seems a plausible deduction then that the drone, or at least some of the drones could be GENERAL antigrav devices.

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WHAT IF the antigravity device FITS INSIDE the flying done in some configuration??
Can it fit?
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« Reply #1176 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 11:07am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 07:53am, j w wright wrote:
i sent in mine, lets make the drones an issue


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« Reply #1177 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 11:10am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 10:57am, bonehead wrote:
Castle has a good point here. What are all of you out there doing here? Are you trying to find THE truth, or just your individual subjective notions of it?

To find THE truth, you must relinquish your prejudices and beliefs. You must maintain an open mind. You must consider all ideas and reject your own if they don't fit. To do otherwise is to be narrow minded and prejudiced, just like all of those debunkers you guys so rightfully despise.

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Well said...... I have always said that... even several times on ufocasebook. There is ONE truth. There are not multiple truths. We can't all agree on what the one truth is, but in the long run, the one truth will be what it is. The TRUTH.

Let's say Pearl Harbor incident... just for an example. We could have had a million different ideas about what Pearl Harbor was going to be, what was going to happen, when it was going to happen, who was going to do what, when. But, the fact is on that day Pearl Harbor happened, and there was ONE truth about what happened. What happened happened. There weren't multiple scenarios playing out that day, there was one.

In the end, what is will be what it is. Our opinions won't matter very much lol

It's kind of the same thing in religion. Everyone has a different opinion about who God is. But, there is only ONE truth about God. God is not a different entity to conform to whatever you think you want to believe about him. We have to know that there is one truth, and then do what we can do to find out exactly what is that one truth, not try and make the truth conform to what our opinion is about it.... make sense?

And, there will be websites that debunk, websites that prove, and really many different forums of logic and thinking that is well..... American and free speech. A healthy dose of both skepticism and optimism weighs the scales evenly.
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« Reply #1178 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 11:12am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 11:04am, LAU wrote:
WHAT IF the antigravity device FITS INSIDE the flying done in some configuration??
Can it fit?


the personal antigravity device A1 is much too small to fit into the center ring. But if you look at the Big Basin drone, that center item really DOES look the most similar to the A1 but on a much larger scale.
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« Reply #1179 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 11:14am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 09:29am, MarkM wrote:
LAU wrote "can the camera+photographer be seen in the reflections?"

Great minds think alike smiley.

I poured over them looking for just that, couldn't find anything definitive though. Maybe someone else will have better luck.


Actually I do know people that have the technology to do that...............the guys that are hiding this stuff can you can bet on that LOL.
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« Reply #1180 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 11:28am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 10:42am, LAU wrote:
You are right. I'm not an expert... huh
I was only thinking the people analysing the reflections could use the enhancements to see in the dark areas of the object.

Anyway, here's my contribution:
The scatches.

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What about the scratches, I'm missing something ?
The pics are on paper from the mid '80's, prolly stacked away contacting other papers.
Am I still missing something about them.

Sure don't see any user servicable parts on this thing either. Doesn't look as if it comes apart.
There also looks to be an air gap on those bent things inside the Capitola craft.
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« Reply #1181 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 11:41am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 10:47am, j w wright wrote:
i'm quite certain the two i beams are reflected on those 2 surfaces... the angles appear right for it

i dunno about expertise, i've only always looked at things very closely, in order to draw, paint and model things and people, etc...

my analysis is only my 2, just pointing out whats obvious to me



My 2 cents, I still think the angle of the surface and the height of the reflection on the object do not allow for the reflections to be the arches. I've looked at this and the other images at crazy zoom levels as well as the full unzoomed size.

If you missed my original posts, click my name and you can find them.

JW, if you can model it and check reflections that's cool. Maybe you can figure out why the curved pieces reflect the writing so oddly. I think the photos are of real objects, but some of the reflections are weird.

BTW, I feel the surface in question is flat, not convex or concave. If you examine the rectangular indents you will see they have a consistent depth. If the surface was convex, or concave for that matter, you'd see that the depth would vary along that axis. Look closely at the indents at 12 o'clock and 1 o'clock and you'll clearly see the surface must be flat. If it is curved, the curvature must be very, very slight. (I almost think I need another very in there.)

In addition the "activated" photo seems to show that the "legs/arms" do not extend into area where they could be reflected. And since it is clear none of the parts move...

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« Reply #1182 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 11:43am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 11:28am, LangLee wrote:
Am I still missing something about them.
Sure don't see any user servicable parts on this thing either. Doesn't look as if it comes apart.


The scratches means is a scan of an used photograph. But I guess we are already pass that, right?

I believe they there are two parts. One is an exact mirror of the other, probably to create an exact mirror of the gravitational field.
Maybe they are held together by those flash-pen like things in the center (looking at the enhanced photos).
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« Reply #1183 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 11:58am »

On the reflectivity....different materials have different levels of reflectivity, we have no idea what this or the curved objects are made of, it could bend light, scatter it, who knows.
When you use a curved piece of white board in a picture it diffuses the light also, I think that's the corrct term, been out of it for a while.
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« Reply #1184 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 12:01pm »

George Noory will not being saying much if anything about Isaac on the Larry King show this Friday.

There's a reason.

C2C is in contact with Isaac and do not want to hazard anything that will forestall Isaac from sending C2C more information.

That's my take on the situation.

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