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« Reply #120 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 12:37pm »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:22pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
to be honest with you, I think the attorney is being bombarded. I wouldn't want to be another one to do so and, if anything they probably have a standard issue comment on client confidentiality.


Yeah, I'm sure he is - I almost feel sorry for the guy but he did make a pretty stupid mistake. But how about those that have bombarded him already. Does anybody have any further info from here or other forums?

All I could find was this supposed email from Todd posted by Urantia (I think):


Here is the correct translation of Todd Schwartz email:

Hello

I've been on the road so I have not been able to stay on top of the
Isaac phenom. May I ask which boards you have been discussing the
isaaccaret.com issue?


I'm interested in getting the information out in an efficient and rapid
manner. I was surprised Isaac used a fortunecity.com subdomain. I
have registered the domain to ensure it will be put to good use.


I'm open to any suggestions. BTW you are the first to contact me with
the exception of one individual who thought I was Isaac. LOL
Cordially


What does this email mean? Is it authentic? Does it make any sense in the context of Isaac's claims?

Let's assume that Mr Schwartz is representing the real Isaac and this is not a hoax. Why would the attorney be setting up the website for Isaac? What services would an *investment* attorney be providing for a guy that is revealing top secret information? Doesn't make much sense to me.




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« Reply #121 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 12:37pm »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:23pm, j w wright wrote:
when i write technical copy, for instruction and communication, the style is far different from my correspondence writing, its much more informal and far less structured... meandering and pondering are words that spring to mind


Agreed, but I bet you don't just turn off your brain or your ability to write cohesively, regardless of what you're composing. I'd wager that you read and reread your posts before you hit 'send', making sure you've at least communicated your thoughts clearly, regardless of the tone or topic.

This is my fault for not communicating my own thoughts clearly - I intended to point out that an expert writer (like the one who penned the debated PACL docs) would have done a different job on the informal 'exposee' from Isaac. The tambre and all would of course vary, but I suspect a fabricated 'memoir' from the same hand to be more polished (and for them to at least use a spell checker!).

If fabricated, every detail so far of the ruse is professional - done by a perfectionist (or group thereof). I can't imagine they would 'slack off' on the piece that they probably knew would garner the most attention...
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« Reply #122 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 12:44pm »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:37pm, StayFocused wrote:
Here is the correct translation of Todd Schwartz email:

Hello

I've been on the road so I have not been able to stay on top of the
Isaac phenom. May I ask which boards you have been discussing the
isaaccaret.com issue?


I'm interested in getting the information out in an efficient and rapid
manner. I was surprised Isaac used a fortunecity.com subdomain. I
have registered the domain to ensure it will be put to good use.


I'm open to any suggestions. BTW you are the first to contact me with
the exception of one individual who thought I was Isaac. LOL
Cordially


What does this email mean? Is it authentic? Does it make any sense in the context of Isaac's claims?

Let's assume that Mr Schwartz is representing the real Isaac and this is not a hoax. Why would the attorney be setting up the website for Isaac? What services would an *investment* attorney be providing for a guy that is revealing top secret information? Doesn't make much sense to me.


I hadn't seen this. It's authenticity is shaky because Schwartz, being an attorney already knows that Isaac wants to do this on the sly, isn't going to jump out there and admit to being a part of anything. I wouldn't if I was Isaac's attorney. That's lethal because if he really did, he'd get more then phone calls. Tons would be knocking on his door.
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« Reply #123 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 12:46pm »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:28pm, MarkM wrote:
Don't we have a copy of hos reply in here someplace? I think it was on the French site and then we got a translation.


Yeah we have a copy but I'm not digging. It's between pages 70 and 95 probably.
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« Reply #124 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 12:50pm »



We're now a go on the information Castles4me posted. It's located the following address.

Again, let me remind you that there will be no skepticim in there regarding how she got the information but only what the information means in respect to Isaac's information he supplied.

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1183141379
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« Reply #125 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 12:54pm »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:37pm, Fencesitter wrote:
I'd wager that you read and reread your posts before you hit 'send', making sure you've at least communicated your thoughts clearly, regardless of the tone or topic


nah, i just preview it and look at spelling (often futiley), as fast as it pops into my head, it appears in text...

my gut feeling (i hope its not my wishful thinking...) is that our isaac may be genuine

i think the next handful of documented sightings will be very telling, although it may be possible that sightings will dry up completely for decades

if the operators have been sloppy enough for all this recent witnessing, they may now tighten up their act... no more drone sightings

whatever became of that image of the drone with the 'lander'?
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« Reply #126 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 12:58pm »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:46pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Yeah we have a copy but I'm not digging. It's between pages 70 and 95 probably.


If there's a "smoking gun" in this whole drone case then Todd is it. The investigation should be focused on this lead.

Here's what I could find on the Open Minds Forum:


>>From: "Todd Schwartz"
Subject: RE: isaaccaret.com question
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:54:58 -0700
To: "OnThe Fence" <onthefence55@yahoo.com>


Hello

I've been on the road so I have not been able to stay on top of the
Isaac phenom. May I ask which boards you have been discussing the
isaaccaret.com issue?

I'm interested in getting the information out in an efficient and rapid
manner. I was surprised Isaac used a fortunecity.com subdomain. I
have registered the domain to ensure it will be put to good use.<<<

What information does he want to get out? How did know about the release of the documents by Issac so fast ? He must be aware of these boards if he was clued up on the Issac material being released immediately. He could be capitalising on the Issac phenon as he calls it.. And he could be soliciting (for lack of a better word) everyone doing his research and creative material by asking for suggestions.. ie: material to post regarding the drones..?

Or he could be putting something more cryptic up, like I have other material to post regarding this from a mysterious client.. any suggestions? Yeah... hire a web master duh!!!

I dunno... his response really has me thinking he is just trying to suck up what he can about the drone thing and make web site out of it.. But! No that doesn't make sense either.

Why would a lawyer in a prosperous industry who seems fairly properous in his career decide to create a side job for himself in publishing a web site related to something as main stream off putting as the drone issue.. It doesn't make sense. He puts his reputation at risk in the general no nonsense community for what?? Doesn't add up in my book.
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« Reply #127 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 12:59pm »

I was walking on the beach the other day, as I do everyday (I tend to think better near water), and as I watched the gulls interact, I thought ...

Animals must communicate telepathically. Not a new thought, I know. But, consider this - telepathy may well be an ability that we humans evolved out of once we replaced it with something else.

Early man communicated with grunts and hand gestures. Then he discovered writing with a stick and started to assign symbols to his thoughts. The history of written communication over the ages is fascinating.

It wasn't that long ago when people actually wrote letters! Then came the typewriter, the word processor, and the computer. Technology augmented - and in many ways replaced - human skills. It's been so long since I've written much long hand that when I actually have to write on a greeting card - God forbid more than just a line or two - even I can't read my writing!

What's the next step in this progression? And the one after that?

It's conceivable then, as seems to be the case with ET, that telepathy is the communication of the future. Will our bodies then adapt to this new condition? What need would we have for ears or a mouth - a larger brain will do just fine. Is that starting to sound like a familiar image?

S1, gut feeling only - is based on a "technology" that we might not be able to grasp (without assistance) for a very long time.
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« Reply #128 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 1:01pm »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:58pm, StayFocused wrote:
If there's a "smoking gun" in this whole drone case then Todd is it. The investigation should be focused on this lead.


Yup!
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« Reply #129 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 1:06pm »

1. ATO...yes, I posted the correct translation of the Schwartz email. I feel that Todd may be trying to hide something. He appears to know nothing and in the next sentence he appears to know 'something' about Issac. I ask you, "Mr Schwartz, fess up dude".

2. Ref: my post #111. the sign I refer to was mounted on the bulkhead (wall) of the Bridge of the ship. It was by the window at about eye level. It was, if I remember, made of etched brass. It was about 5" x 4" and was attached with four screws. I came back to the ship several years later and it was still there, but from what I hear they no longer are on Navy ships.

Not sure about the word 'immediately', though.. If I can locate a photo of it I will post it.

It said, "If you see this (drawing of typical UFO) report it to the Deck Officer immediately".
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« Reply #130 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 1:10pm »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:58pm, StayFocused wrote:
If there's a "smoking gun" in this whole drone case then Todd is it. The investigation should be focused on this lead.

Here's what I could find on the Open Minds Forum:


>>From: "Todd Schwartz"
Subject: RE: isaaccaret.com question
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:54:58 -0700
To: "OnThe Fence" <onthefence55@yahoo.com>


Hello

I've been on the road so I have not been able to stay on top of the
Isaac phenom. May I ask which boards you have been discussing the
isaaccaret.com issue?

I'm interested in getting the information out in an efficient and rapid
manner. I was surprised Isaac used a fortunecity.com subdomain. I
have registered the domain to ensure it will be put to good use.<<<

What information does he want to get out? How did know about the release of the documents by Issac so fast ? He must be aware of these boards if he was clued up on the Issac material being released immediately. He could be capitalising on the Issac phenon as he calls it.. And he could be soliciting (for lack of a better word) everyone doing his research and creative material by asking for suggestions.. ie: material to post regarding the drones..?

Or he could be putting something more cryptic up, like I have other material to post regarding this from a mysterious client.. any suggestions? Yeah... hire a web master duh!!!

I dunno... his response really has me thinking he is just trying to suck up what he can about the drone thing and make web site out of it.. But! No that doesn't make sense either.

Why would a lawyer in a prosperous industry who seems fairly properous in his career decide to create a side job for himself in publishing a web site related to something as main stream off putting as the drone issue.. It doesn't make sense. He puts his reputation at risk in the general no nonsense community for what?? Doesn't add up in my book.

You didn't find the whole mail which is here http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=cali1&thread=1183330416&page=8#1183431291
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« Reply #131 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 1:14pm »

To me the most important thing is what he didn't say ' "Who the heck is Isaac and whatever are you talking about? This is a law firm for goodness sake!"

Only not in such polite terms smiley
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« Reply #132 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 1:23pm »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:58pm, StayFocused wrote:
>>From: "Todd Schwartz"
Subject: RE: isaaccaret.com question
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:54:58 -0700
To: "OnThe Fence" <onthefence55@yahoo.com>

Hello

I've been on the road so I have not been able to stay on top of the
Isaac phenom. May I ask which boards you have been discussing the
isaaccaret.com issue?


Why would he ask which boards? I'm going to throw in my thoughts here.

First of all it was his first question so this is the most important question that comes to his mind. Assuming that OnThe Fence mentioned that he picked it up in OMF, Todd already knew that it had hit the forums. But, he's interested now in knowing (which boards?) plural. Something's bothering him and I think it's the plural aspect. I'm just using some basic psychology here.

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I'm interested in getting the information out in an efficient and rapid manner.


Well, I can tell you now that this is not Isaac because Isaac wouldn't have come up with a question like this if you think about it. This is instead, a very uninformed attorney who has not been paying attention to what his client has been up to over the last 8 or 9 days.

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I was surprised Isaac used a fortunecity.com subdomain. I have registered the domain to ensure it will be put to good use.


Again, the attorney is guilty of not paying attention to this client of his, but more importantly it sounds as if he had no clue that Isaac was ready to produce documents that once belonged to a secret entity of the U.S. Government, which obviously could put someone in prison. At least probation.

Or, the email is a fraud and who ever wrote it is pulling our leg. But, I know who onthefence is and I can't picture that individual producing disinformation on Todd Schwartz so there's some confusion there.

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What information does he want to get out?


LOL, now the attorney appears to be asleep on the job. Either that or Isaac and himself have only thus far had conversations about what type of domain he should use in order to present what he had to Coast to Coast. Then again, maybe this is why the domain dates have been changed and Todd Schwartz's name removed because of "onthefence's" email.

Isaac at some point realized that Todd had messed up and that Todd's name and address would have been available and a source used to locate Isaac eventually. This is why Isaac took it upon himself to use the Fortunecity site and I think he did it without Todd's knowledge. Good thing he did but, Isaac didn't think either and should have changed his moniker to something other then Isaac because we found the other website at Go Daddy anyway. Maybe he just thought we would keep Isaac because it appeared that the GoDaddy site was completely abandoned.

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« Reply #133 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 1:28pm »



I can safely say that Todd and Isaac have been on the phone since onthefence emailed Todd.
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« Reply #134 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 1:32pm »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:54pm, j w wright wrote:
my gut feeling (i hope its not my wishful thinking...) is that our isaac may be genuine


I hate to admit it (to myself) but I have the same gut feeling about Isaac, JW.

Some of the arial photos and whatnot may be proven fake... unless we have some way of connecting them to a central source, all that does is take them out of the mix of evidence to be examined. It *heuristically* casts some doubt on the whole thing, but from a logic perspective, proving that "P=False" categorically implies nothing about unrelated statements Q, R and S, unless they are logically connected in some way, which has not been demonstrated at this point.

Taking our Deep-throat's debut and materials in a bubble, he makes a pretty good case... It's sad (and I suppose intriguing) that as a society or species in general we need to go through such pains to decide if someone is telling the truth or not.
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