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« Reply #1245 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 9:17pm »

Also, it is my belief that the "Pig" model is the one weve seen thousands of pix of....
The blinking/..apparently "Changing shape", rotating, blinking, white and black drone.
They turn white hot and fly. They are the most common seen UFO, I believe.
I caught one video of one of these, one night.
Some guys have caught tons of these rascals...
On their camera everyday. So they are common.

I think the goverment is asking for our help?

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« Reply #1246 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 9:24pm »

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What makes you believe that this hoax would take many talented people?


the programming language primer was hardly a result of clip art placed in a pleasing layout

it is a brilliant piece of art on its own, like nothing i've seen before and i've studied visual communication for more decades than i care to mention, i've worked in the field for ages

that discipline would take the talents of at least a single person, and a good deal of time

now, onto the enormous task of designing and modeling the drone modules...

another very original, striking design, again, unlike anything seen before... the design and modeling alone is a huge task, then to texture it, render it and create the inventory pic = much talent and time, at least a few other people working hard to put that together

and another individual to create the language character set, a different discipline than the two mentioned before, its no borrowed sci fi font, and it bears some close similarity to the roswell characters on the supposed recovered i- beams from that 'wreckage'

and the 'faked' photos... very well done, there is no button in photoshop named 'ufo' that would all have to be rendered in 3d carefully and composited onto photographs of the sky, paying devilish attention to light angles, atmospheric conditions, focal length/blurring for at least 4 different cameras

so many opportunities to screw some minute detail up, yet there are none...

and furthermore, composing convincing witness reports, hiring actors to appear in interviews who can fool even experts trained in detecting false testimony

and thats just the obvious stuff... it would be easier and more profitable to shoot a motion picture for all the effort behind this elaborate hoax... has there been a precedent? i dont recall such monumental effort employed before for the sake of getting a laugh... fooling the flying saucer crowd... it would be sociopathic on the part of many people

one person doing all this? a body of work that would take years and ingenious artistic talent in many mediums... hardly seems worth it

bandwagoning would be very sloppy and reveal itself

i'm not saying this is the real thing, just that it has yet to be proven a hoax, there is more than ample reasons here to keep an open mind, more than i recall ever before

proof is more than a gut feeling, hoaxes have been easy to reveal

if it is one, the perpetrators should be given an award and then shot without ceremony
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« Reply #1247 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 9:42pm »

Here, here!!!!!

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« Reply #1248 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 9:57pm »

Regarding the size of the rings on the concrete floor.
I think they are smaller.
The polymeric expansion joint (white line) is typically 1-1/4" wide. If you think about it that would make the rings only several feet in diameter

I am sure one of you has a program to value the width of the white line at 1-1/4" then determine the diameter of the ring based on that.

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« Reply #1249 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 10:04pm »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 8:48pm, j w wright wrote:
preliminary reflection analysis - i beams:
have to tweak the i beam cross section a bit more, i'll add characters and inlay them into a bump map next, whew! this took about two hours...

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Pretty good! I think you do better work than Saladfingers. The depth of field is wrong. Also you need to turn down the contrast and reduce that glow at the top.
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« Reply #1250 on: Jul 12th, 2007, 11:49pm »

j.w., concerning your I-beam render:

What program are you using? And, also, does it appear to you that the left I-beam is shorter than the right? I'm not sure if this has been covered or not, but either the scale between the two is off, or, perhaps, one of the I-beams circumference is more narrow (like an ellipse)? Perhaps this could account for some reflection anomalies?
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« Reply #1251 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 12:41am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 9:57pm, AgentM wrote:
Regarding the size of the rings on the concrete floor.
I think they are smaller.
The polymeric expansion joint (white line) is typically 1-1/4" wide. If you think about it that would make the rings only several feet in diameter

I am sure one of you has a program to value the width of the white line at 1-1/4" then determine the diameter of the ring based on that.



There is a convincing reference environment foto at Open Minds where the two wheel track (standard runway tractor with about 2-3 ft track) and the dimensions of the concrete slabs are seen (about 15-20 ft). The slab dimension was noted by a Case Book poster back about a month ago as 19ft on a side...this looks to be the case, or close.

By rough estimate, the diametr of the largest circular component would be 8-12 ft. Someone can work up a more detailed analysis.
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« Reply #1252 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 01:06am »

Two CARET components are increasingly bothersome - (1) the "remote" controller for the anti-grav device and (2) symbols on the i-beams.

Issue:
with so much-over-the top technical advancement being claimed for the i-beams and language... (and being implied, off stage, by the clues in Isaac's overview and CARET document itself....
- writing would be centuries obsolete
- writing on the i-beams in the indicated contrast colors (black and white) is plausible but very improbable
because it is too much to expect ETs "eyes" to operate like ours.
- a Remote Controller is very out of place, anachronistic!.

Isaac's ET's would have converted organ-centered communication, visualization, machine control (hand, eye, speech, hearing)...etc, to brain-assisted and/or brain-machine "Wi-FI" links. Earth science is nearly there.

Can't fully describe how unlikely the CARET explanations are now sounding.

If true, Isaac's Ets are traveling around the universe aided by extreme advancement in mastery of quantum principles combined with "covered wagon" CCC technology.

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« Reply #1253 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 01:30am »

on Jul 13th, 2007, 01:06am, Farmboy wrote:
Two CARET components are increasingly bothersome - (1) the "remote" controller for the anti-grav device and (2) symbols on the i-beams.

Can't fully describe how unlikely the CARET explanations are now sounding.

If true, Isaac's Ets are traveling around the universe aided by extreme advancement in mastery of quantum principles combined with "covered wagon" CCC technology.



New theory -- CARET material was created by our defense operations after our government learned how to be super achievers with the Manhattan Project.

A gravity device is plausible given the "rediscovery" of the field tensor mathematics, and resulting rush to apply it.

Isaac's IMPLIED quantum technology is the only issue in my opinion that debunks this explanation.
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« Reply #1254 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 02:10am »

I'm quite skeptical of the idea of anti-gravity. Anti-gravity was an idea originally formulated by Einstein to explain why all the matter in the universe didn't fall into one point as a result of gravity (this would happen according to his theories of relativity). However, the need for anti-gravity was eliminated when Edwin Hubble discovered that the universe was actually expanding. He knew this because almost all the distant galaxies he observed were "red-shifted", which meant that they were moving away from the point of observation and thus had their wavelengths increased, resulting in the light rays being "shifted" towards the left (red) on the electromagnetic spectrum. Since the universe was expanding, it abolished the need for a counter-gravitational force.

Einstein adamently refused to believe the universe was expanding (the same way he refused to believe the Uncertainty Principle). But as you can see, the idea of anti-gravity is mostly an obsolete topic. I still think this is one big hoax, but we'll find out for sure eventually.
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« Reply #1255 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 05:37am »

My 2 cents:

If this is a hoax, then 2 different methods of creating the parts were used, maybe to test the theory which one would be debunked first, and if CGI already reached a stage that can fool humans.

The drones are models, and were used on the outside to create credible photos.
The object, shadows, optical lens effects (etc) are consistent and show no proof of cgi.

The antigravity device was rendered as CGI. It was printed on a photo, scratched, and then scanned to look more realistic.

About the antigravity device:

Has anyone noticed how the drone is white (realistic paint) and the other is pure black?

Has anyone noticed that such a black shiny device would show finger prints, even the slightest scratch would be visible! Shinny black is the worst color of all!

The antigravity device, a super shinny & clean device, was photographed with no top light (unrealistic) and shows no reflections of the environment outside the floor and the beams... strange.

Has anyone noticed that antigravity device is only half a device, that the other half is a perfect mirror image, even the symbols are reversed?
Maybe the CGI designer got so tired of it, it decided to mirror the other half so it would cut the creation time in half.

There's something fishy with the antigravity device photos... maybe the shadows, maybe the floor (too damn clean!) ... and after the last renderings by j w wright I believe they are CGI.

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« Reply #1256 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 06:00am »

Continuing on the theory that all this is intended to test the theory if CGI already reached a stage that can fool humans ...

Can the images be part of a large viral campaign to launch a new 3D rendering software... a software that proved in real life (by us!) it was so accurate that no one could trace the rendering back to CGI?

Maybe even some of the outside photos are models and others CGI ... just to prove that there is no conceivable difference between?

Just food for thought...
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« Reply #1257 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 06:24am »

I'm sure a lot of you are aware of 'Steorn' and their claims of 'over-unity' power generation, so, while not directly pertinent to this discussion, I thought you may still be interested. To me, if this proves to be a valid technology, it may well change the course of all our lives.

http://www.steorn.com/news/releases/?id=1001

http://www.steorn.com/orbo/claim/

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« Reply #1258 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 07:09am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 9:11pm, urantia606 wrote:
Isaac said that 'heads will roll' because of the recent uncloaking.

I doubt that anyone would loose their job over this glitch.

That would only cause the guy to be very angry and he might have a bad reaction. If you get my drift.

Best to keep everyone onboard.


This is another thing that just bothers me (as being unbelievable about Isaac)... if this is such a rare event, that heads will roll... why does it happen so often that it is being caught on film and visually seen with regularity over the “past 10 years” or so?

To me... this is really been been a "happening" this year. huh

Which means WOW, talk about regularity… all of these photos in how many months?

So is Isaac clueless or is it as Elmer always says... dare’s someding awful skrewy going on awound here. rolleyes
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« Reply #1259 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 07:20am »

on Jul 12th, 2007, 10:04pm, Latitude wrote:
Pretty good! I think you do better work than Saladfingers. The depth of field is wrong. Also you need to turn down the contrast and reduce that glow at the top.


thanks!

i have it set so the reflections are more apparent than in the photographs, the lighting is a bear to get right, it probably wont be exact unless i somehow find a photograph of the lighting rig they used

which is unlikely... isaac? help us out with more pics!
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