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« Reply #1350 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 6:18pm »

When you put it that way and considering the time span it all covers, there's no way it's hoaxed. Just, as you say, keeping the secret would be impossible.

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« Reply #1351 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 6:41pm »

I'm not so worried about Larry King, he's very respectful to his guests. And they're all pro-UFO, no debunkers as far as I can tell. What worries me is that they will fudge on the drone issue for fear of "calling" it too soon. It may come up if enough emails were received, but my guess is that it will be glossed over with something like, "Well, Larry, that's still under investigation. An interesting case that raises a lot of questions. We'll just have to wait until all of the evidence is in."
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« Reply #1352 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 6:45pm »

How the Drone Craft Works:

This craft operates within the magnetic field of the earth or any other planet that has such a charge.

This craft is unmanned.

On the underside of the large Paddle are four camera pods. I believe each camera pod has several lenses.

The large Spikes on the side of the large ring torus are easily detachable.

The 16 upper vector Spikes are attached to a ring and are also easily detached.

If additional power is needed extra torus can be attached to the sides.

The Torus is composed of sections. Each section has either a Positive or Negative charge. There are elements on the inside of the torus that can bypass and connect the various charged sections. You can see these in the photos.

The torus has a permanent charge and can be recharged by the accumulation of electrons vectored into it by the upper 16 lifting spikes.

This craft cannot operate in outer space.

That's my speculation............more to come.
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« Reply #1353 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 6:50pm »

Wonder if ET's mind is not so superior to ours.

Perhaps its only their technology that is impressive.

They could be using holographic implants to interface.



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« Reply #1354 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 6:57pm »

Let's hope CNN will not turn Larry King's show tonight into a joke, like Anderson Cooper did on O'Hare and Glenn Beck on a mile-long ufo recently (although at the end he apologized)

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« Reply #1355 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 6:59pm »

yeah, and the other thing that is of concern is some of the questions may have been selected based on the stench of debunkery or lameness.
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« Reply #1356 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 7:03pm »

on Jul 13th, 2007, 6:00pm, Latitude wrote:
Chill, Dr Dill. Can't we disagree without animosity? Maybe "closed mind" is a bad phrase to use in these forums. I probably should have chosen different wording. I should have said something like "terrestrial mind". Some people are just more on the ground than others when it comes to thinking of the ET possibilities. Not that it's a bad thing. I can see many circumstances where being that way would be advantagious. So don't take it so much as a blow, okay?


Yeah, I would consider myself fairly grounded. But I’ve never so much as alluded to what my beliefs are regarding anything other than the topic in hand which is the Drones and Isaac documentation.

But for the record and of course in my humble opinion there are a lot more cases than this with a great deal better and often, irrefutable evidence that I find a lot more compelling, convincing and just basically more believable than the Isaac documentation.

It’s just that they are in the past and certainly don’t provide the same, “Finger on the pulse” feel that this current flap does.

And if my, “Terrestrial mind” fails to accept as fact an unprecedented release of information deemed so classified that nobody knows exactly what the classification should be (maybes that’s why they weren’t stamped?) then please forgive me, but don’t label me as, “Close minded.”

And sure if being grounded means I opt for the more factual than fanciful approach then yeah, I’m grounded and I too don’t view it as a, “Bad thing.”

I never took it as a blow more a factual inaccuracy that needed rectifying.
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« Reply #1357 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 7:25pm »

"Well we know they like COWS -- Man, we better start breeding some cows... and NOW -- How Now Brown Cow!!"

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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #1358 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 7:34pm »

on Jul 13th, 2007, 6:06pm, MarkM wrote:
It's very, very hard to keep something totally secret when it involves a group of people. Especially a stunt this cool and exciting. People have best friends, significant others, family, coworkers. The participants must be bursting at the seems to tell someone. The lid is not going to stay on indefinitely. Human nature has shown that time and time again.

If this were a hoax we probably would have heard rumors containing verifiable information by now.


MarkM, it has been done before by hoaxers… remember Lock Ness?

You know this circular reasoning on secrets is just plain silly… you can not have it both ways.

No one can keep a secret… blah blah blah … and then say gee, I can’t wait until Isaac spills the beans on what, a secret… something that has been kept secret for a mere 60 years or so?? So on the one hand, there are no secrets that can last very long (how long is long?)… yet everyone is salivating for someone to release a secret that nobody is able to keep?

Am I following this right?



on Jul 13th, 2007, 6:18pm, hjdelight wrote:
When you put it that way and considering the time span it all covers, there's no way it's hoaxed. Just, as you say, keeping the secret would be impossible.

HJ


The Loch Ness hoax spanned 61 years before the truth was told… what are your folk’s definition of a span of time before it can not be considered a hoax?



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« Reply #1359 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 7:41pm »

Well, I guess I'm just plan silly then. Using "Nessie" as a precedent, you must be right.

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« Reply #1360 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 7:44pm »

on Jul 13th, 2007, 6:57pm, ABCStore wrote:
Let's hope CNN will not turn Larry King's show tonight into a joke, like Anderson Cooper did on O'Hare and Glenn Beck on a mile-long ufo recently (although at the end he apologized)

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Looks like there is at least 8 guests tonight so that means we'll be lucky if George gets 5 minutes. I'm thinking the Isaac drone case won't get a mention.
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« Reply #1361 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 7:46pm »

Can someone PM me the url to the original thread that popped up regarding the drones? The one with the photos taken of the drone in some forest over a power line... that thread please. I'm having a hard time trying to read up from the beginning with links to threads that have been moved and closed and with new threads replacing old, etc etc etc whine whine whine.
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« Reply #1362 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 8:01pm »

on Jul 13th, 2007, 7:46pm, Lok wrote:
Can someone PM me the url to the original thread that popped up regarding the drones? The one with the photos taken of the drone in some forest over a power line... that thread please. I'm having a hard time trying to read up from the beginning with links to threads that have been moved and closed and with new threads replacing old, etc etc etc whine whine whine.


All the pics and reports are all on this website. Here is the first called the Chad sighting:
http://www.ufocasebook.com/strangecraftphotos.html
There were no powerlines. The powerlines are in the Raj/Capitola pics. They came a couple weeks latter.

To add, you can download Dr Dill's pdf which is linked in the bottom of his posts. It's a pretty good run down.
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« Reply #1363 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 8:06pm »

on Jul 13th, 2007, 8:01pm, Latitude wrote:
To add, you can download Dr Dill's pdf which is linked in the bottom of his posts. It's a pretty good run down.

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« Reply #1364 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 8:14pm »

Allow me to play devils advocate.......
Everyone is assuming it’s all similar (photographed) technology. The Italy 1999 image/sighting is similar but in no way identical in shape, symmetry of paddles and altitude to any of the subsequent sightings. The Alabama image/sighting is similar in the basic circle/paddle structure but between these two original images there are most certainly parallels between the subsequent chad/mufon/rajman which have (and are) been investigated to depths never before witnessed in, “Real time.”

And then there’s the Big Basin sightings, most people have steered well clear and probably with good reason, not least being LMH’s 72dpi scans of 12 of the 15 images, one of the three un-sized ones is severely blurred. But out of all of the images where the writing is evident, the Big Basin ones were the least obvious and the ones that required the greatest manipulation to view the text.

Yet it is these images that Isaac refers to as his trigger to go public.

Soooooo, what if Alabama, Chad, Mufon and Rajman were all legitimate, the first Big Basin set (3) a hoaxers test, and the next set (12) the finished product. It’s certainly conceivable that with the attention the internet and UFO Forums have bestowed upon the WHOLE subject that someone jumped on the bandwagon and released the Isaac documents.

The connection cited most is between Big Basin and the Isaac documents, in Isaacs own words they, “appear in the more complex diagram form on the underside of the Big Basin craft,” and it’s more a less consensus that the inventory shows various parts of the Big Basin craft.

Or what if the latter ones are the real ones?
What if they all the real thing?
What if they are all hoaxed, independently?
What if one of the early ones are genuine and the others are, “Oneupmanship?”
What if the Isaac documents are government disinformation and the others are real?

What if, what if………………..

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying I’m convinced theses are hoaxes, what I am saying is that when I step back from the situation and view it as one whole entity, all of the jigsaw pieces (so far) placed together, I have great difficulty in seeing a coherent, complete picture.

I also can’t help applying a degree of rationality to the process, one which I’m often openly criticised for on these forums but one which I will inevitably never fail to apply.

Unless some new information is released or one of the many ongoing investigations reaches some sort of definitive conclusion then I can’t see this being resolved any time soon.

And unless those involved in the Drone discussions begin to welcome the more sceptical members, or stop flaming them and at the very least show some tolerance to conflicting theories, it will all soon end up a very one sided affair where there’s no middle ground, let alone room for outsiders, fence-sitters and opposing opinions,

then surely, it’s no longer a discussion?
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