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« Reply #330 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 09:00am »

on Jul 6th, 2007, 08:30am, wreckage wrote:
I see what you're saying re. LMH, though. It's tough on her, but it's also tough to regain lost credibility - and let's face it, she has made some 'blues' in her time.


And, let's not forget MUFON certain. rolleyes

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I will say though, that she certainly puts in a great deal of effort with 'Earthfiles'.


I agree, I only wish though that she would organize her site a little better in there. There's too much confusion and I have to concentrate at what I'm doing since two stories may be melded together, confusing an issue. Maybe it's just me.
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« Reply #331 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 09:01am »

on Jul 6th, 2007, 08:49am, castles4me wrote:
Farmboy.... did you see our requests (from Mark and me) to look at the "math" geometry, algebra and computer programming WORDS that I got in that vision the other night (supposedly from alien contact?) lol I know that sounds weird... but this might be the "Math evidence key to Isaac's credibility"

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1183141379


By the way, I'll continue working on that right now. Dead time - yeaaaah - a rarity. lol
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« Reply #332 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 09:06am »

on Jul 6th, 2007, 08:32am, jlc767 wrote:
Did anyone catch Jesse Marcel, Jr. on Fox News this morning? He was plugging his new book, The Roswell Legacy. Between foxnews.com UFO-related updates and broadcasts on live television (Buzz Aldrin with Neil Cavuto, Jesse Marcel, etc.), things have really been picking up. But then again it's the 60th anniversary of Roswell, so I suppose these things are expected...

Despite the past few pages concerning discredited imagery and hoax-mongering, I still have hope that we'll learn more, but I have a strong feeling we won't be hearing from "Isaac" anymore.


Yes that's my point. The mainstream media and average Joe American may now get a persuasive argument. Can you imagine how it would have been if Haut said it was a weather balloon?

So while this is a mainstream news item and while we may have known about it for some time, it's an opportunity to put the UFO issue at the forefront, and wouldn't it be great for a presidential politician to get a reporter's question about his stance on UFOs and government secrecy.
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« Reply #333 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 09:29am »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 10:46pm, urantia606 wrote:
Hey, ONLOOKER:

Aren't you aware of how jealous women are of each other....especially if one is a worldwide success and the other is NOT. All very simple really.


Yes, I'm aware of that, but this seems to go beyond the degree of jealousy one usually sees from that. Art Bell has made a big to do out of Linda's past status as Miss Idaho, and as a contestant in the Miss America pagent and that probably exacerbates the tendency of other women to view her that way.

Her critics on C2C's forums can't see that Linda is bringing forth first hand eyewitnesses to the drone sightings. They won't discuss the content of the testimony that the witness brings to the air, they'll only criticize Linda's mannerisms, tonal quality, and her tendency to ask steering questions.

Linda has brought 3 dragonfly drone witnesses testimonies to the air. That is more important to me than digital images, which can be easily faked, particularly without context and eyewitness testimony to substantiate them.

I met Linda back in 1991 and found her to be genuinely sincere in her interest and motives, even when the cameras and microphones weren't on her. She's a pro. If she has a fault, I'd say that she has a tendency to believe people too readily. She's a sincere person and seems to think that most everyone else is endowed with the same sincere nature she posseses. It has bit her several times in the past, but I do see her becoming a little more guarded about that in the last two years.
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« Reply #334 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 09:48am »

Who made Isaac's diagrams?
(who had the technology?)

Isaac wrote:
So, in 1984, the CARET program was created with the aim of harnessing the abilities of private industry in silicon valley and applying it to the ongoing task of understanding extra-terrestrial technology.

One of the best examples of the power of the tech sector was Xerox PARC, a research center in Palo Alto, CA. XPARC was responsible for some of the major milestones in the history of computing. While I never had the privilege of working there myself I did know many of the people who did and I can say that they were among the brightest engineers I ever knew.

XPARC served as one of the models for the CARET program’s first incarnation, a facility called the Palo Alto CARET Laboratory (PACL, lovingly pronounced “packle” during my time there). This was where I worked, along with numerous other civilians, under the auspices of military brass who were eager to find out how the tech sector made so much progress so quickly. My time at the DoD was a major factor behind why I was chosen, and in fact about 30+ others who were hired around the same time had also been at the Department about as long, but this was not the case for everyone. A couple of my co-workers were plucked right from places like IBM and, at least two of them came from XPARC itself. My DoD experience did make me more eligable for positions of management, however, which is how I have so much of this material in my possession to begin with.


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Xerox PARC (XPARC)
(PARC is a wholly owned subsidiary of Xerox Corporation.)

Look at PARC's History: http://www.parc.com/about/history/default.html

(1984-1986 "at least two of them came from XPARC itself")

XPARC = Xerox Palo Alto Research Center

CARET = Commercial Applications Research for Extraterrestrial Technology

PACL= Palo Alto Commercial Applications Research for Extraterrestrial Technology Laboratory

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did you see our requests (from Mark and me) to look at the "math" geometry, algebra and computer programming

Google: "isaac's diagrams"
Understanding Natural Language with Diagrams:
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/novak/aaai90.html
Diagrams for Solving Physical Problems:
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/novak/chap94.html
This research was supported in part by the U.S. Army Research Office under contract DAAG29-84-K-0060. Computer equipment used in this research was donated by Hewlett Packard and Xerox Corporation.

They made the TOOLS to decode and compute all earth language.
Did they at the same time work on a secret TOOL to decode and compute the "Strange craft language" for lack of a better word.

Ask the experts on The PARC Forum:
http://www.parc.com/events/forum/default.php

Did you read my post about the turing machine?
Quote from PARC events:
What are the models of manufacturing analogous to the models of computing that Alan Turing invented to establish the mathematical and scientific foundations for computer science?
In short: it's time to put the Turing into Manufacturing

Google: Xerox Corporation turing machine

PARC main page:
http://www.parc.com/

I think they got the right technology for isaac's diagrams.

(xerox is commonly used as a synonym for "photocopy")




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« Reply #335 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 09:54am »

another interesting link for those that havent' seen... http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1271&category=Environment
It describes how the 'images' on the chad photo links to an early NASA project...
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« Reply #336 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 09:59am »

on Jul 6th, 2007, 09:48am, RoH wrote:
Did you read my post about the turing machine?
[size=1]Quote from PARC events:
What are the models of manufacturing analogous to the models of computing that Alan Turing invented to establish the mathematical and scientific foundations for computer science?



very nice post!!

I did see your post in last locked thread about Turing machine.... you know... when I was researching the list of words that I got in the "vision" (read the other thread listed below if you don't know what I mean) But anywa... when I was researching the words -- just googling -- two of the words took me to sites that mentioned the Turing machine. A coincidencehuh
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« Reply #337 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 10:09am »

on Jul 6th, 2007, 10:01am, castles4me wrote:
Can I just applaud you on your post.... it's posts like THIS that is going to make a difference solving the drone mystery...... not posts about HALO or Todd Schwartz.... or all of the other irrelevant babbling. When we ask intelligent questions... do research....


Indeed - I especially feel revamped after reading about how in the Acknowledgments of this documentation states...
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This research was supported in part by the U.S. Army Research Office under contract DAAG29-84-K-0060. Computer equipment used in this research was donated by Hewlett Packard and Xerox Corporation.


It does keep sounding more promising as time goes by!

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and look what a google on the contract number brings up! DAAG29-84-K-0060 - very interesing...
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« Reply #338 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 10:13am »

on Jul 6th, 2007, 10:01am, castles4me wrote:
Can I just applaud you on your post.... it's posts like THIS that is going to make a difference solving the drone mystery...... not posts about HALO or Todd Schwartz.... or all of the other irrelevant babbling. When we ask intelligent questions... do research....


You will find your words in the text of the Diagrams for Solving Physical Problems

"look at the "math" geometry, algebra and computer programming"
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« Reply #339 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 10:27am »

Please also go over to that "other" thread and read about SCRIBE. There is definite cross over info here in terms of relevant technology and "real world" models.


http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1183141379
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« Reply #340 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 10:28am »

on Jul 6th, 2007, 09:54am, Scorpion wrote:
another interesting link for those that havent' seen... http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1271&category=Environment
It describes how the 'images' on the chad photo links to an early NASA project...


Within the link provided by Earthfiles/George, check out what I found: http://www.msss.com/

Also, within the link from George, you will find a DoD and NASA logo. Why is the Department of Defense interested in moon images?

>..sounds like the DoD is interested in something on the moon.
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« Reply #341 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 10:29am »

on Jul 6th, 2007, 07:30am, Student wrote:
Here is background on Bill Hamilton:

http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/billham.html

And from Mufon LA website:
MUFON-LA
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Hotline: 818-483-0864
Section Director: Stephen Murillo
contact@mufonla.com



Why so many people on ATS, Open Minds and Ufocasebook forums believe the pictures are real if they are very bad fakes ? This guy from Mufon sounds very pretentious to me. Are we in the forums stupid or partially-sighted people ? Are all the people working in graphic design being fooled ? Onthefence on OpenMinds works all day on 3D software and hasn't detected any proof of fakery.
This guy from Mufon is a little too confident in my opinion. Why is Mufon report so loose ? Couldn't they show us the pictures that prove the fakery because I can't see the issues they are talking about when I watch them closely.
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« Reply #342 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 10:50am »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 6:25pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
THEY HAVE NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER TO CALL CHAD AND ISAAC A HOAX SO PREMATURELY LIKE THAT.


i created a new entry in the discussion area called Hoax:

CHAD Drone/CARET has not been proved to be a hoax yet. The resemblance of the antigrav device and a pipe pig are vague at best and is no way indicitave of a hoax in any way. Before this is classified as a hoax, you'll have to do present much better evidence than that.

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« Reply #343 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 11:02am »

Taking the same approach as George Pettite, I took the second set of characters found in the photo of the strange craft and entered it into google.

+L dxy

This is what came up: http://www.otmnet.org/

Check it out. It's apparently C++ Programming language for Astronomy software....very strange!
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« Reply #344 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 11:03am »

on Jul 6th, 2007, 10:58am, castles4me wrote:
The program's very name is ISAAC and it talks about all of the geometric properties in the ...
AND -- a very funny pun Mr. Isaac!! YOU GO BOY!! Calling yourself ISAAC -- I get it now... I get it now.


Is this where we start researching for another theory/law named C.H.A.D tongue
Seriously tho - this is uncovering something never seen before, and again - if it is all hoaxed, a VERY VERY clever well done, there are waaaaay to many links here to be pure co-incidence.
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