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« Reply #585 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 6:27pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 6:22pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Regarding government disclosure:
How many different places in the forum have I said something about (obviously the government would have had at some point, the equivalence of a round table and sitting at that table would have been the most renowned psychiatrists and psychologists in their field?)

It's really not a question, you don't have to answer that. I'm being facetious. The answer is three times.



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What did I miss? Not sure what this is in reference to.
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« Reply #586 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 6:30pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 6:27pm, MarkM wrote:
What did I miss? Not sure what this is in reference to.


You've seen it before Mark. It's why I'm shunned in here. lol

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=disclosure&num=1179096560&start=0

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« Reply #587 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 6:36pm »

You make an excellent case (as usual smiley). Speaking only for myself -

I would rather face fear than live in ignorance.

To my government: I will forgive you in exchange for the truth.

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« Reply #588 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 6:42pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 1:27pm, dhq wrote:
I called the University of Southern California and spoke to someone in the physics department and they confirmed (just like I had thought) that according to modern physics anti-gravity is not allowed.


i wonder if they've ever heard of albert einstein and robert forward?


http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?prog=normal&id=AJPIAS000031000003000166000001&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes


more!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-gravity#Tests.2C_real_anti-gravity


it seems physicists take the concept seriously after all... are you sure you didnt call usc community college?

i hope its not your last post, varied points of view are an asset to forums like this

there is strength in our differences



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« Reply #589 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 6:46pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 6:36pm, MarkM wrote:
You make an excellent case (as usual smiley). Speaking only for myself -

I would rather face fear than live in ignorance.

To my government: I will forgive you in exchange for the truth.



But what about that 80 year old couple living next door or the kids playing in the street?




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« Reply #590 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 6:50pm »

Hey JWWright:

Dhq is right, the professor he spoke to failed to mention that Anti-Gravity is not allowed for Freshmen.

But it is allowed for the Senior Physics students, as long as they've had a few beers first.
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« Reply #591 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 6:52pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 6:50pm, urantia606 wrote:
Hey JWWright:

Dhq is right, the professor he spoke to failed to mention that Anti-Gravity is not allowed for Freshmen.

But it is allow for the Senior Physics students, as long as they've had a few beers.


We need more comedians like you urantia. woo hoo!
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« Reply #592 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 6:54pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 6:46pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
But what about that 80 year old couple living next door or the kids playing in the street?



You missed the second half of my first statement. I don't pretend to speak for others, only for myself. As to how others would respond to the reality (the reality, not the concept, there is a difference) - I have no idea, and neither does anyone else, save for the individual. Judging by the poll numbers that you just posted, it shouldn't come as any surprise. But then that's the distinction that I've reiterated several times - there's a big difference between accepting this intellectually and accepting it emotionally.

Maybe that's why we need the bridges in place before we attempt that journey.

I certainly don't believe that I have the right to decide who receives knowledge and who doesn't. If one believes that the government has been withholding information for decades, then there has already been selective disclosure. Thousands of military and civilian personnel are already "in the know".

This is probably best suited for the Disclosure thread so I'll stop mentioning this here. My apologies.

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« Reply #593 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 6:59pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 1:27pm, dhq wrote:
Now to the fun part. About the pig. You are NEVER going to find an exact match to the black one because its modified. I have contacted a second expert and he also says its a pig. But he can't identify the manufature because its toy'd with.


i'd settle for one that even looks close, i kit bash miniatures for modeling studio quality spaceships and other sci fi props, and like others that do this, can readily identify objects used in kitbashing. (study under the master, martin bower)

if this were a kitbash alone, its masterful without the claim of being an antigrav

how much are the pigs? they must be expensive, i bet, thousands? and very heavy....

also, modifying one to look as sweet as the antigrav... looks like a huge effort, dont you think?

wouldnt it be easier to build an antigrav prop from scratch?

or in a 3d program?

the pig explanation is ludicrous, makes no sense, so much effort for what payoff?

and thats just a teeny aspect of the whole drone case...

my god, what a herculean effort for the sake of a hoax, if so it is unprecedented

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« Reply #594 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 7:19pm »

A brand new pipeline pig can cost as much as a new car.

Maybe someone got it at a used pipeline pig lot.%20grin

Remember what someone did with an old DeLorean once.%20grin
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« Reply #595 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 7:40pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 2:59pm, dhq wrote:
Good job fencesitter! Now thats what I like.

You pointed out two informal fallacies (as apposed to the formal fallacies of symbolic logic).

The physics prof. first name is Robert and I will not divulge any more info on him for obvious reasons.


Robert Hellwarth?
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« Reply #596 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 7:46pm »

Now that we're talking science:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotic_matter

http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/E/exotic_matter.html

Even Denmark is in for the great news in NANO:

http://www.dme-spm.dk/www.dme-spm.dk

Anyway, it's all about robots in molecule size.

Why would Exotic Matter not respond to actions once implemented and executed by linguistic commands, as taken a step forward in this technology?

Maybe we are still terrestrial. As for the information to obtain this knowledge, is the question.

If Governments are witholding evidence of this, they aren't doing a good job, provided Alien tech comes close to this technology.

If the source...witch is not to be proven, are indeed Alien of origin, the secrets are well kept.

Perhaps that's why the silence of Govt's and the common trade.

Do not forget Isaac: It was Extraterrestrial knowledge/science for Commercial use it was all about in the 80's.

This could actually be the truth unveailed.

The origin of the technology are not to be found, at least not by me, if you can, please do tell.

Just a thought...

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« Reply #597 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 7:54pm »

on Jul 6th, 2007, 06:24am, CentralScrutinizer wrote:
I had several trusted friends & experts in CGI (computer
generated Images) examine these images, as well as the earlier
Coast to Coast images. One examiner is Mr. Steve Neil who has
and continues to do computer generated images for the History
channels television program 'UFO Files'.


UFO Files has the worst computer graphics on TV.

ABC

P.S. Guys, you're typing faster than I read =)
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« Reply #598 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 8:15pm »

Not sure if I need to defend pysicists here or not, but I will say a little with regards to them and antigravity.

If anyone contacted a decent physicist and asked them if antigravity were possible, then it would be reasonable for them to say that according to the laws of modern physics, that antigravity is not possible, (dhq was slated for this and other things, but the physicists he approached behaved as they should). By the way antigravity is thought of as the method of shielding an object from the forces of gravity exerted by external objects. In itself it is not considered a force, pending future discoveries regarding possible negative matter.

As I have said before the force of gravity is poorly understood. Physicists do not like ideas that are not backed up by equations. It is considered bad form for a physicist to present an experimental paper where he/she has not at least demonstrated some understanding of the theory behind the results. We need and strive to understand everything around us. Antigravity to most physicists goes against what they understand. It is however apparent that some physicists think way beyond what they have been taught or have read. I myself do not know if Einstein's equations allow or forbid antigravity. I only touched on general relativity for a term. I could look for cases on the web, but I fear I would be wasting my time. The web is a funny place for physics. There are so many distortions/misinterpretations of current understanding by people wanting to prove their own personal cases, that it is hard to know what to trust. There is a truth, but finding it on the web will be tough.

Patents should ideally be a good source to indicate what may be possible, but patent clerks are not always at the top of the field and are not always knowledgable enough to know whether a patent should be granted. Mistakes are made. Stick to reputable journals where papers are published through peer review and the occassional book or comment from genuine scientists at reputable universities.

Having said all that, I personally believe that nature must allow some form of gravity shielding, purely because I believe that some ufos are of alien origin and I believe they display flight characteristics that would imply inertial dampening of the craft with respect to the surroundings, i.e. this allows acceleration at incredible rates.

It is also well known that the public side of NASA and other companies have spent time and money investigating the possibilities of antigravity. They would not do this if they were absolutely certain that antigravity was entirely forbidden by the current known laws of physics.
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« Reply #599 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 8:53pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 5:51pm, AgentM wrote:
First: I agree.
Second: Uhh, What? Your hurting my brain.
Third: We do not toy with pigs on this thread


I toyed with a pig once.....
the bacon was delicious.
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