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« Reply #600 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 9:03pm »

on Jul 6th, 2007, 06:24am, CentralScrutinizer wrote:
Found this on virtuallystrange.net .... all these things out there that need to be 'confirmed'.......


on Jul 7th, 2007, 7:54pm, ABStore wrote:
UFO Files has the worst computer graphics on TV.

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P.S. Guys, you're typing faster than I read =)
(now back to page 22)


It's actually easier then that ABStore. Instead of going back to page 22. Click the name of whoever is being quoted and that takes you to that actual post - i.e., CentralScrutinizer. This way, if you want to return to this position after reading, you just click back one and you're right back here.

Thanks for the insight on the computer graphic comment.
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« Reply #601 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 9:07pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 7:46pm, VonStern wrote:
Now that we're talking science:

Even Denmark is in for the great news in NANO:
http://www.dme-spm.dk/www.dme-spm.dk
Anyway, it's all about robots in molecule size.

Why would Exotic Matter not respond to actions once implemented and executed by linguistic commands, as taken a step forward in this technology?......
If Governments are witholding evidence of this, they aren't doing a good job, provided Alien tech comes close to this technology.
..........Perhaps that's why the silence of Govt's and the common trade.

Do not forget Isaac: It was Extraterrestrial knowledge/science for Commercial use it was all about in the 80's........
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Hey Von Stern.... The United States is also studying a nano technology. But, I think like you.. the more I study into the alien technology, the more I realize that most of our technology comes from them. All of these research teams that worked for Department of Defense were all integrated with other real laboratories and the technology flowed back and forth from scientist to scientist giving us the computer systems we have, the medical technology, space, military -- secret and then not secret. It's been slowly filtered into every aspect of our being and our psyche.
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« Reply #602 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 9:33pm »

UPDATING THOSE RESULT, WITH COMPARISON

Poll Results

Have you ever seen a UFO? - 5:00 CT
No 71%
Yes 29%
Total Votes: 44,508

Have you ever seen a UFO? - 9:30 CT
No 72%
Yes 28%
Total Votes: 145,736

(ABOVE, TOTALS INCREASED BUT PERCENTAGES ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL)
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Do you believe that aliens have visited Earth? - 5:00 CT
Yes 72%
No 28%
Total Votes: 44,489

Do you believe that aliens have visited Earth? - 9:30 CT
Yes 72%
No 28%
Total Votes: 146,161

(ABOVE, TOTALS INCREASED BUT PERCENTAGES ARE EXACTLY IDENTICAL)

I think it's save to say that 72% of all AOL users believe that aliens have visited Earth.

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« Reply #603 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 9:45pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 2:45pm, dhq wrote:
Urantia606:

I will get back to you with a little known fact about the Roswell story, but I am too busy right now. Need just a couple more days.

Regarding "repulsion" that is not the same as anti-gravity. Repulsion needs force. Anti-gravity does not involve force.


I contend that no earthling knows what anti-gravity involves. However, I may be wrong, because Isaac implies that he knows something about it. If this is true, then he has a moral obligation to share such knowledge with the out-in-the open (above ground) scientific community. Why should earthly scientists waste trillons of dollars and man hours discovering what Isaac already knows? The benefit to humanity of such knowledge could be incalculably great.

Attempting to be crystal clear about what I have tried to say in my posts, I assert the following:

Isaac has yet to give us the technical information so that we can take him at his word. I suspect he does not have such knowledge, because I think the technology incorporated in the strange craft is thousands of years more advanced then ours. But I could be wrong here, and I beseech Isaac to give us the new science that would substantiate his spectacular disclosures.
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« Reply #604 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 9:56pm »

Ok Figneutron:

Thanks for that info on Anti-Gravity. I'm sure that Isaac will see your point and be posting more of his discovery soon. I hope he does so this evening.

Now, what about the crash at Roswell. Did a UFO crash there or not? Do you have some inside info that could clear up this matter once and for all?

By the way, are you a science type guy?

Urantia ....was able to get a passing grade in high school chemistry....that's about it.
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« Reply #605 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 10:17pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 3:07pm, urantia606 wrote:
Castles4me:

I really wish the world was a perfect place but it isn't.

I do see your point about 'protecting' people's identity but I sincerely feel it's way too late for that.

Many people associated with UFO's, alien artifacts, inside information about aliens, etc., have ALREADY been named. No one is bothering them.

Art Bell has a whole bag of alien artifacts....did the MIB get him. No. Why? He was public about it. That's the best policy....go public.

I feel you are a bit over worried about this.

Will the so-called 'sleuthing' continue, of course it will. This is a fact everyone will have to live with.

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that is not actualy true,they can replace people with a clone.
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« Reply #606 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 10:19pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 12:45pm, castles4me wrote:

I am glad you brought this up... this is very important. If any of you were EVER to suspect or find out who Isaac really is, do NOT put it here in this forum. I sure as heck wouldn't!!! Do we really want him to get in trouble, arrested? or worse?

Everyone here is excited to have information disclosed. But you can kiss it goodbye if the forum continues to dissect any name that comes up like Vultures on yesterday's road kill !!! (poor innocent Keith Edwards)

If any of you want Isaac or his colleagues to come forth with more information, then we better have some more maturity and couth
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Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. But I believe we need to take it a step further. We need to go beyond treating the witnesses with respect, we need to go against those who do not. Only this way can we show our support and let people like Isaac know that we will do everything in our power to make sure they are treated right.

If you think I may be going overboard, think about what recently happened in OMF where a debunker tried to get an expert witness in trouble with his own company for coming forward. Don't be fooled. There are many out there who don't want this to happen.
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« Reply #607 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 10:33pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 9:56pm, urantia606 wrote:
Ok Figneutron:

Thanks for that info on Anti-Gravity. I'm sure that Isaac will see your point and be posting more of his discovery soon. I hope he does so this evening.

Now, what about the crash at Roswell. Did a UFO crash there or not? Do you have some inside info that could clear up this matter once and for all?

Although I am a psychologist by profession, my undergraduate degree is in mathematics, and I am a pretty good amateur computer programmer (in the past 10 years I have had collegiate training in the major programming languages). In addition, I try to keep up with research in cosmology and particle physics, so I believe I have an uncommon awareness of where we are in our understanding of the physical universe. i

By the way, are you a science type guy?

Urantia ....was able to get a passing grade in high school chemistry....that's about it.
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« Reply #608 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 10:34pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 8:15pm, CloudBreak wrote:
By the way antigravity is thought of as the method of shielding an object from the forces of gravity exerted by external objects. In itself it is not considered a force, pending future discoveries regarding possible negative matter.


I'm not as up on this as I should be either, but I believe one prominent theory on anti-gravity (or gravity control I guess you could call it) is related to altering or 'flattening' the space surrounding an object (to use that old trampoline analogy), but not exactly shielding it... The difference between shielding and altering becomes important when you consider not just flattening, but tilting it in a different direction...

I'm going to try and explain this a bit for those of you that may have skipped physics class for other activities like kissing girls and going to those good parties that nerds don't get invited to wink

Imagine that old way of explaining gravity: put a huge, heavy steel bowling ball in the center of a trampoline, bending the fabric nearly to the ground. Now take a basketball, and if you put it on the trampoline, it will roll toward the heavier ball... The mass of the heavy ball has 'bent' the fabric of the trampoline, which causes other objects placed on the trampoline to move toward it - this is one way of thinking about how the mass of a large object (like a planet) 'bends' the fabric of space and causes other objects to fall toward it. With some practice, you can even get a basketball or tennis ball to roll around the center in an 'orbit' around the heavier ball. As it rolls around, the lighter ball still, from it's own mass, creates an indent in the fabric, which pulls very slightly on the very heavy ball in the center, but not enough to really move it out of position.

(this is the important part) Now imagine if you had a circular wooden disc - like the top of a small round table. Even if the heavy ball were still in the center, if you put the round tabletop underneath the fabric and pushed up hard enough, you could create a 'flat' surface in the fabric where the basketball could sit without moving any closer to the center. In fact, if you then tilted the table, you could make the ball roll in any direction you wanted, ignoring the 'gravity' of the heavy ball in the middle. The heavier the ball in the center, the more energy you would have to spend pushing on that table to flatten the fabric, or to essentially overcome the effects of the mass in the center.

There are two important differences in the way the big steel ball and the tabletop effect the 'fabric' ... the closer you put a smaller object (like a tennis ball) to the big steel ball, the faster it will roll to the center. The angle of the fabric is not uniform - it's like a curve that gets steeper in the middle, and the farther you get from the center, the slower the ball will start off rolling. Once you put that big weight in the center, though, it doesn't take any effort on your part to keep that gravity effect going... you could come back hours later and the 'gravity' would still be there.

The table top is a different matter. First, it takes a great deal of effort (energy) on your part to push up and create the flat surface. The second you let go, the table top drops, and the weight in the center takes over control of the fabric. Even more importantly, is that if you angle the tabletop to make the lighter ball roll in a different direction, it creates a flat incline, and no matter where you put a ball in that small round area, it will always start rolling at the same speed toward the lowest edge of the table top. If you practiced a bit, you could move the tabletop along underneath the rolling lighter ball to keep it rolling at whatever speed and in whatever direction you wanted.

The whole idea of creating a small area of controlled gravity and then 'tilting' it however you want (and moving that field around to keep it surrounding a ship of some kind) is the basic premise behind the use of a controlled gravity field as a form of propulsion.

That's at least one way of looking at how natural gravity as opposed to a controlled gravity field work - it's an analogy and not the way things really happen... in fact, no-one's even sure at this point how the true physics actually work, and the best minds in the field are slugging away at it daily. Maybe next year, someone will wrap their brain around it and we'll have to throw away the whole trampoline idea... For now, I'm grabbing a beer and heading off to one of 'those' parties wink

(sorry for the gigantic post... I thought some people might find some of this interesting)

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« Reply #609 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 10:37pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 9:45pm, figneutron wrote:
I contend that no earthling knows what anti-gravity involves.


Someone did but the secret died with him

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa071999.htm
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« Reply #610 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 10:41pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 10:34pm, Fencesitter wrote:
The whole idea of creating a small area of controlled gravity and then 'tilting' it however you want (and moving that field around to keep it surrounding a ship of some kind) is the basic premise behind the use of a controlled gravity field as a form of propulsion.


I wonder if this is why sometimes we see in UFO pictures (not the drones) in a kind of tilted position when they are flying?
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« Reply #611 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 10:46pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 9:56pm, urantia606 wrote:
Ok Figneutron:

Thanks for that info on Anti-Gravity. I'm sure that Isaac will see your point and be posting more of his discovery soon. I hope he does so this evening.

Now, what about the crash at Roswell. Did a UFO crash there or not? Do you have some inside info that could clear up this matter once and for all?

Although I am a psychologist by profession, my undergraduate degree is in mathematics, and I am a pretty good amateur computer programmer (in the past 10 years I have had collegiate training in the major programming languages). In addition, I try to keep up with research in cosmology and particle physics, so I believe I have an uncommon awareness of where we are in our understanding of the physical universe. In this regard, the fact that aliens are visiting us means that our scientific understanding of the universe is basically wrong or grossly incomplete. According to known physics, unrestricted, "non-trivial" interstellar travel is impossible. Therefore, I conclude that our present day physics is relatively very primitive. I suspect that the aliens travel by manipulating space, and to the best of my knowledge our scientists have no clue about how that would be done.

By the way, are you a science type guy?

Urantia ....was able to get a passing grade in high school chemistry....that's about it.
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« Reply #612 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 10:47pm »

Atrueoriginal... thanks for posting those statistics, that's interesting information.

I just wonder how many of the %75 percent that say they believe would accept it. (I know ya'll touched on this earlier) I am just wondering for myself too.
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« Reply #613 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 10:52pm »

I just noticed on Peter Davenports site National UFO Reporting Center www.nuforc.com that a new crop circle has been discovered in Washington State.

It does look primative but it also sort of resembles one of the characters in Issacs linguistics.

Also a witness is said to have popped a pic with his cell phone of a hovering object.

Be great if it turns out to be a drone variation.

The proximity of the road is a bit suspect though.
I wish there was more detail in the actual "weaving" of the stalks.TEXT
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« Reply #614 on: Jul 7th, 2007, 10:54pm »

on Jul 7th, 2007, 10:41pm, castles4me wrote:
I wonder if this is why sometimes we see in UFO pictures (not the drones) in a kind of tilted position when they are flying?


In the Capitola sequence it is tilted.
I couldn't understand why someone said it was center wire prop driven, it has no surfaces for creating lift.
I read the due to the Earth's fluxuating magntic field disk shaped craft exhibit a jerkiness due to the ships field generator compensating. At least some of them.
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