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« Reply #645 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 10:50am »

on Jul 8th, 2007, 10:34am, LangLee wrote:
That quite brutal, because he stumbled upon something so cool ?
I have the Beyond Invention show he was on, yeah he's different, you would be too if you had your head around all the equipment like he has.
Maybe he knows so much but he just can't put it into words.
I'd hate to read what you'd have to say about an Autistic Savant that came up with something remarkable.


Yeah, the guy pissed me off because he may have found something very valuable to mankind and squandered it. He's a buffoon.
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« Reply #646 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 11:01am »

The 1st Rense article is dated 6/18/07, the second one is 7/08/07, did someone change the station ? I hear a change of tune.
Yes Latitude, he lost it, that is disappointing.
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« Reply #647 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 11:16am »

on Jul 8th, 2007, 07:10am, DrDil wrote:
John Hutchison (The Hutchinson Effect)
Einstein's Unified Field Theory?


on Jul 8th, 2007, 10:26am, Latitude wrote:
The guy is a kook. He has no theory. No empirical data. He may have stumbled onto something but he's no scientist. He has his own forum but it's laughable. He sounds drunk most of the time. BTW, Einstein never had a Unified theory.


No, that’s why I placed a question mark at the end of the statement, although Einstein famously spent the last two decades of his life searching for a Unified Field Theory.

Indeed, Einstein is the best known physicist to attempt to develop a classical unified field theory.

I was attempting to draw parallels between the work of Hutchinson and Einstein to incorporate gravity into this theory, similar to what Tesla claimed to have done, i.e. define the relation between gravitation and electromagnetic force which ultimately would lead to a unified field theory.
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« Reply #648 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 11:18am »

This may well be my last post on this aspect of the enigma. My concern is that some important keys to understanding this are being pushed to the wayside because they involve concepts not routed in "hard science". For my views on this, please recall my analogous reference to "magic" in yesterdays post. The great irony is that, more often than not, these previously ignored tidbits are called to mind when, later down the thread, someone has an "Ah, ha!" moment. Crop circle similarities come to mind. Blown off by many early on, the possibility is suddenly becoming better accepted. Along with the NUFORC posting, there are these:

http://www.earthfiles.com/

Think of this entire CARET exercise as a test. Using highway jargon:

1. A roadblock is put up to block any further access beyond a certain point.

2. Caution cones, alert us to possible danger, they indicate that we should slow down and pay close attention to what's around us. They alert us to changes.

3. Bridges are built by crews of trained engineers. They allow us to cross safely from point A to point B.

How are you approaching the subject of ET contact? Which one of the above would be symbolic of your role in a possible disclosure?

These days will be looked upon by future generations as days of choosing.

We can all afford to be brave when something that's approaching us has yet to crest the mountain. We are not yet face to face. A word of caution when studying the experiences of contactees and abductees - their experiences are uniquely individual. There isn't one that's representative of all. How we react to an encounter is very much influenced by our own history and personality. There are similar elements to the experiences - most of which are not entirely understood - but the effect of the encounter differs greatly from person to person. This is obvious in some of the most high profile accounts of our times. Why do I bring this up? Because we don't understand exactly what the human ET connection is. We have only theories and subjective interpretations from contactees and abductees. I include myself in both of these categories.

In these days of choosing, take care not to be overly influenced by what you read. Weigh everything, be logical, and be compassionate. The obvious end to this saga is one thing - contact. Are you a roadblock, a caution cone, or a bridge?
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« Reply #649 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 11:23am »

on Jul 8th, 2007, 11:18am, MarkM wrote:
Think of this entire CARET exercise as a test. Using highway jargon:

1. A roadblock is put up to block any further access beyond a certain point.

2. Caution cones, alert us to possible danger, they indicate that we should slow down and pay close attention to what's around us. They alert us to changes.

3. Bridges are built by crews of trained engineers. They allow us to cross safely from point A to point B.

How are you approaching the subject of ET contact? Which one of the above would be symbolic of your role in a possible disclosure?

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« Reply #650 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 11:35am »

That's the safest place to be on this, no doubt smiley! A wise man wink
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« Reply #651 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 11:39am »

MarkM and all:

Maybe we are at a road block...today. but you never know what will happen tomorrow with this story. Consider the following.


This is at least one of the most detailed and documented ufo stories of the 21st Century.

If it is a 'hoax' it is a most extraordinary one, which would need the participation of artists, engineers, language experts and computer CGI/3D rendering specialists.

Especially the drawings of the 'language' would entail countless, days, weeks or even months of work, at great cost and time.

And those specialists would have to be amongst the tiny minority of the worlds 'best'.

No one has been able to reproduce documents, photos etc., that even come close to what Isaac has provided.

Some have suggested the A1 is a prop of some kind. As a professional model builder, I could make a model somewhat like the A1 BUT it would be a mind altering amount of work. And the cost would be, substantial, to put it mildly.

A hoax....I don't think so.


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« Reply #652 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 11:59am »

Urantia606 - I concur on all of your points. Well stated.

What I meant by using the term "roadblock", and the other highway terminology, was that we should each identify which of these conditions we as individuals represent in the way this drone sage unfolds.

Roadblocks would include the skeptics, those whose minds are made up no matter what the evidence might indicate. They aren't traveling beyond where they are and they see it as their job to prevent you from passing as well.

The caution cones still allow passage down the road, albeit more slowly and carefully. They point out all of the possibilities but leave it up to you to go on or not. How good are your tires smiley?

Bridges have been under construction for some time. Some aren't quite ready to hold traffic yet - they need a bit more shoring up. Once complete, however, they'll allow everyone on the road to reach the other side of the divide. To go where they may not have been able to go before.

EDITED TO ADD: I should probably include traffic cops in this analogy. They're the ones whose job it is to steer you in a particular direction. You can try to dart around them, but it's not easy smiley! This would include the government and anyone with an agenda to promote.
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« Reply #653 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 12:04pm »

MarkM:

Your ideas are well taken. We'll just have to wait and see what happens next.

Who was expecting what Isaac posted? I didn't expect it. It just happened.
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« Reply #654 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 12:29pm »

on Jul 8th, 2007, 12:04pm, urantia606 wrote:
MarkM:

Your ideas are well taken. We'll just have to wait and see what happens next.

Who was expecting what Isaac posted? I didn't expect it. It just happened.

If the recent timeline of events are taken as an indicator, there should be some more information coming soon. It’s been 11 days or so since the Isaac documents now.

May 10th 2007: Chad - Bakersfield, California
May 12th, 2007: Mufon <submitter> 7013 Wife – Lake Tahoe, Nevada
May 20th, 2007: Rajinder Satyanarayana (Flikr: Rajman1977) – Capitola, California
June 6th, 2007: Jenna L/Stephen – Big Basin, California
June 16th, 2007: Ty – Big Basin, California
June 26th: Release of Isaac documents.
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« Reply #655 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 12:39pm »

MarkM and Urantia,

I have purposely avoided this topic because as you say Mark, it's not scientific. I do not like to consider the more esoteric aspects of things like this because I believe it usually only clouds the issue.

Why must this be a test? Why can't this be like JW said long ago that this is only a series of happenstances? I'm usually not one to pull out Occam's Razor but I believe in this case it applies more than ever. Don't try to read more into this than is evident. Let's keep our feet on the ground lest we lose all credibility.

We've all thought all along that we were being visited. Now along comes what looks to be concrete proof so why should we be surprised? Sooner or later is was bound to happen, the way I see it.
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on Jul 8th, 2007, 12:29pm, DrDil wrote:
If the recent timeline of events are taken as an indicator, there should be some more information coming soon. It’s been 11 days or so since the Isaac documents now.

May 10th 2007: Chad - Bakersfield, California
May 12th, 2007: Mufon <submitter> 7013 Wife – Lake Tahoe, Nevada
May 20th, 2007: Rajinder Satyanarayana (Flikr: Rajman1977) – Capitola, California
June 6th, 2007: Jenna L/Stephen – Big Basin, California
June 16th, 2007: Ty – Big Basin, California
June 26th: Release of Isaac documents.


That would suggest a hoax. Is that what you are saying?
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« Reply #657 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 12:49pm »

on Jul 8th, 2007, 12:39pm, Latitude wrote:
MarkM and Urantia,

I have purposely avoided this topic because as you say Mark, it's not scientific. I do not like to consider the more esoteric aspects of things like this because I believe it usually only clouds the issue.

Why must this be a test? Why can't this be like JW said long ago that this is only a series of happenstances? I'm usually not one to pull out Occam's Razor but I believe in this case it applies more than ever. Don't try to read more into this than is evident. Let's keep our feet on the ground lest we lose all credibility.

We've all thought all along that we were being visited. Now along comes what looks to be concrete proof so why should we be surprised? Sooner or later is was bound to happen, the way I see it.


With all due respect Latitude - and I do mean that sincerely - A test would apply if one is attempting to judge a reaction. If this is the beginning of disclosure, by an individual or an agency, then it would seem very important to gauge the response before proceeding. Widespread panic would be a possible response, debunking, intense study, apathy, these are all potential reactions to this material. As a scientist or government agent (or even just a concerned citizen), measuring this would play a big part in determining my next step. I would hope that Isaac would be very interested in testing the waters. Perhaps that's why we don't yet have all of his information.

As far as reading things into this, my goodness - isn't that what we've all been doing?
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on Jul 8th, 2007, 12:40pm, Latitude wrote:
That would suggest a hoax. Is that what you are saying?

I meant exactly what I said, “If the recent timeline of events are taken as an indicator.”
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« Reply #659 on: Jul 8th, 2007, 1:31pm »

"If we dismiss theories because they seem weird, we risk missing true breakthroughs."

- Max Tegmark, Physicist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA.

Something to think about while contemplating how one gets from "there" to "here" and back again. As Alice discovered, perhaps there are a few rabbit holes in our reality landscape.

When I spoke of "magic", this was the type of thing I was referring to:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v448/n7149/full/448023a.html

Hard to see the entire box - much less understand it - while living inside of it smiley.

I know that I'm boring people, so I'll stay quiet for a bit. wink
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