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« Reply #795 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 7:46pm »

on Jul 9th, 2007, 7:11pm, starsigndavid wrote:
HEY, I'M a NICE attorney!! smiley


Ok, so there's maybe one exception to the rule Dave lol
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« Reply #796 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 7:59pm »

on Jul 9th, 2007, 11:28am, Latitude wrote:
It's like Castle said, each character can mean many (infinite ?) different things depending on the context in which it is used. I think that is what Isaac was trying to explain.


That would explain why Isaac did not copy the whole report... a primer for an infinite language will be difficult to copy... he only published 5 pages after all. Of course the so called primer is meaningless without any translation (it was more like a schematic than a primer). How large would a primer be for an infinitely large language? How were these folks "smart" enough or able to figure out that the same word has infinite meanings? Then one word means everything.

Another thing, how practical would an infinite "language" be? No one would ever understand anyone "speaking" or writing within the same "language," and it could never be learned by anyone (it is all infinite after all). Kind of defeats the propose of a language… another one of those "issues."

If Isaac stated that a component is the anti-gravity propulsion for the craft, this technology has a specific purpose, and not an infinite number of purposes. It is not a garbage disposal, a water filter, a green house and a propulsion system. This makes sense.

There is no demonstration of infinite diversity in the primer or the photographed “technology” unless you are willing to speculate a word has infinite meanings... which are not very efficient way to communicate or to design a spacecraft. It all still sounds like con man double talk to me with nothing to really back it up but wishful thinking.

Just some food for thought.
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« Reply #797 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 7:59pm »

on Jul 9th, 2007, 3:31pm, Nephilim wrote:
RoH:
David Sereda with Boyd Bushman
- Anti-Gravity / UFO Disclosure -
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3874568473252816241

Very Nice video!! Now that's what I'm talking about, we need more of these old folks comming out! wink


You are right, what a great video, shame no real part 2.

You people that are trying to find isaac, domains, owners, ect. are really making me nervous.
For example, you somehow got hold of film of the shooter on the grassy knoll. You put a couple of stills from it on a web site. Investigation after investigation has said Oswald acted alone..........someone wants it to stay that way ya think ? Everyone is looking for you to prove or disprove, or maybe something else.
Pure fantasy, but I'm just trying to say let's see if more info comes, all of this looking may stall the flow of information giving the naysayer's ammunition for the I Told You So shots.
Whatever is going on here is quite fascinating. No one is jumping fully on it because the photos are compelling, they aren't blobs, faint disks, silhouettes, lights travelling with a black background, they are really what everyone has been always asking for other than one landing in their front yard......sharp photos, but now they are too sharp, too detailed, you can actually identify markings that appear on it. I find this full of contradiction and it gives me a headache.
If it's real or not it's been a great ride, much learned, but it wouldn't be a total loss. There's too much here, you seed a lie with a truth.........I think that's how it goes.
Maybe there should be less talk of who and where isaac is lest the flow of info dries up.
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« Reply #798 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 9:10pm »

on Jul 9th, 2007, 7:46pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Ok, so there's maybe one exception to the rule Dave lol



Of course, I AM retired! LOL

In reading the Schwartz response, I have to say I was struck by its seeming lack of sincerity or, shall I say, the 'mercenary" nature of his views on this entire episode. For me, that doesn't necessarily translate into a growing distrust of the Isaac disclosures, but this is all one giant interconnected story. Take just one brick out of the foundation and the entire house may fall.
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« Reply #799 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 9:42pm »

The sad part is that we've reached this point but there may never be anymore information released. We really haven't accomplished more than perhaps draw more people to the idea that ET technology exists and that we may have some of it. I guess that a big plus but nothing has been proven yet....it's still an idea. It will probably go down in history as a hoax if nothing more surfaces. Then there will be some of us believing that and some of us convinced otherwise....ala alien autopsy. Let's keep our fingers and toes crossed and wish for another release of information from Isaac.

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« Reply #800 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 9:46pm »

I figured out what the drones do.

Drone Addiction.
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« Reply #801 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 9:54pm »

on Jul 9th, 2007, 7:59pm, LangLee wrote:
You people that are trying to find isaac, domains, owners, ect. are really making me nervous.
For example, you somehow got hold of film of the shooter on the grassy knoll. You put a couple of stills from it on a web site. Investigation after investigation has said Oswald acted alone..........someone wants it to stay that way ya think ? Everyone is looking for you to prove or disprove, or maybe something else.
Pure fantasy, but I'm just trying to say let's see if more info comes, all of this looking may stall the flow of information giving the naysayer's ammunition for the I Told You So shots.
Whatever is going on here is quite fascinating. No one is jumping fully on it because the photos are compelling, they aren't blobs, faint disks, silhouettes, lights travelling with a black background, they are really what everyone has been always asking for other than one landing in their front yard......sharp photos, but now they are too sharp, too detailed, you can actually identify markings that appear on it. I find this full of contradiction and it gives me a headache.
If it's real or not it's been a great ride, much learned, but it wouldn't be a total loss. There's too much here, you seed a lie with a truth.........I think that's how it goes.
Maybe there should be less talk of who and where isaac is lest the flow of info dries up.


AGREE!!!!!! This is what I had posted before!!! If we tear apart any possible lead into this (like vultures on yesterdays road kill!) and then expect that more people are going to be willing to stick out their necks to disclose info... you gotta be crazy. I really hope that we can be a mature community that is condusive and receptive to the flow of information.
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« Reply #802 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 10:07pm »

on Jul 9th, 2007, 9:46pm, AgentM wrote:
I figured out what the drones do.

Drone Addiction.


Yup. My wife says I need Metha-drone.
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« Reply #803 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 10:10pm »

on Jul 9th, 2007, 7:59pm, bakosawa wrote:
That would explain why Isaac did not copy the whole report... a primer for an infinite language will be difficult to copy... he only published 5 pages after all.
Just some food for thought.


It seems his task was to develop an algorithm that works to explain just the basic RULES of a language that incorporates words that each have a virtually infinite number of meanigs, shadings, contextual significance....

This all asssumes (which we do not know, yet) there is even a language and the ETs are the primary species of their planet/system. The ETs sent here could have been cyborg avatars "speaking" a direct kind of machine language, ie without higher level user friendliness.
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« Reply #804 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 10:35pm »

Hello,

Really peeved at the minute, just lost my entire post after building it with links and stuff.... embarassed

I'll try again....it's not got as much detail though.

Since seeing something very unusual as a child travelling with my parents (Father was in the RAF) I have always had a smoldering interest in the subject of UFO's but I can tell the story another time.

I only do the odd search from time to time and with Roswell kicking around at the moment I though I'd see what's going on in the UFO community and stumbled on the Isaac letter and documents. I had see the drone images a few weeks ago and they did stir some interest but I considered them to be computer generated. (they still maybe) But the Isaac documents suggested otherwise so I read on and raised an eyebrow when I saw the Xerox PARC reference.

Let me explain. I work for Xerox (not USA) and have done since the early 90's as your typical hardware sales person. Reading about XPARC was interesting but as I read on I nearly fell of my chair when I read about the "Language" and read this line:

Quote from letter:

"The language, a term I am still using very loosely, is a system of symbols (which does admittedly very much resemble a written language) along with geometric forms and patterns that fit together to form diagrams that are themselves functional."

Well I'll be......that sounds just like my recollection of Xerox Dataglyph and Smartpaper Technology shocked

Dataglyph Description

http://www.parc.com/research/projects/dataglyphs/

Well some years ago now, I recall being shown this new technology from XPARC called Xerox Dataglyph's and I recall being amazed at how a series of intricated symbols could hold so much data and information. As with many Xerox technologies, we as sales people, struggled to find real money spinning applications that as a priority shifted our hardware (it's all about shifting boxes/MFD's/production engines, even today kiss

The applications kicked around for a while and then drifted and pretty much dropped off our radar (where I work anyway) and that was it till I read the letter last night.

Before writing this, I did a search of the Xerox Fact book at work to see when the technology first appears as I didn't want to get all excited and then see that it became "commercial" in 1983 or something. Well I was not at all surprised to see it emerge in 1995 which seems to fit in nicely (speculating) with research in the late 80's followed by the hugh amounts of government red tape and commercial development to get the product ready for release in the mid 90's.

http://www.xerox.com/go/xrx/template/019d.jsp?view=Factbook&id=MajorProdUSAnnounce&Xcntry=USA&Xlang=en_US

Hope this has added something of interest to this cool thread.

If this is a hoax it's a cracker!

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« Reply #805 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 10:41pm »

on Jul 9th, 2007, 9:46pm, AgentM wrote:
I figured out what the drones do.

Drone Addiction.


Isn't there a 12 step program for this? Drone Addicts Anonymous DAA

"Hi, my name is castles -- I am a Dronaholic"
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« Reply #806 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 10:42pm »

on Jul 9th, 2007, 10:35pm, Xeroid wrote:
Hope this has added something of interest to this cool thread.

Regards
Xeroid.


Thanks for the links and for the post!!! I am going to read up on that. If more and more people come front, the puzzle pieces will be put together.
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« Reply #807 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 10:47pm »

Jeff -- the writer from the Tahoe newspaper article from earlier emailed me back. (I had emailed him to thank him for the article and send in the list of the complete timeline of all of the drone sightings etc)
He emailed me back with the question concerning disclosure -- whether or not I thought that it was around the corner (not sure if it was an "interview" question or not but this is the answer I sent)

As for the question you asked me, I really feel that disclosure is around the corner. It might not be a UFO landing on the whitehouse lawn, but a story here, a story there, a whistleblower here and one there; until the evidence is overwhelmingly too obvious for the governments of the world to cover up any more. Also, several other nations have made their UFO files disclosed (at least in part) Brazil, France and now the UK ministry of Defence stated in May that they will be releasing more files.

The question is how will people react if there is full disclosure. Will extreme muslims blow them out of the sky? Will homegrown US militia men try and fight them off? Not every human will be accepting of the idea, even though the latest AOL poll showed nearly 75 percent of people surveyed believe that UFOs exist. Saying "oh yes UFO's are real, I believe it" is one thing, and then to have it actually truly unfold before your eyes and see photos beyond the shadow of doubt is another. It is easy for people to believe when there is always a shadow of doubt cast by the government and the media. It's our safety net.


Also, if there is full disclosure -- will the aliens really change their M.O.? Will they still fly around secretly, not to be seen, or will THEY be in on the disclosure? The depth of the governments' secrecy is not clear. Have they been in cahoots with the aliens all of these years? Only time will tell, but if I had to give my opinion, I feel that something is stirring, that very soon life as we know it will change. And, there will be a convergence of a magnitude far greater than any we have ever seen. Where government, science, religion, extraterrestrials, spirit, mind, and humanity all come crashing together and what is left is a world putting back together the pieces of the TRUTH puzzle one by one. And the answer to the universe and God's plan for us begins to unfold.
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« Reply #808 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 10:57pm »

Xeroid

I would say the shoe fits. Welcome and thank you.
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« Reply #809 on: Jul 9th, 2007, 11:04pm »

Yes Xeroid, thanks for taking the trouble. We appreciate it. And very well written response castles4me. I hope they print it.

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