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« Reply #840 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 11:19am »

As far as the Isaac name, if it was me doing this I might do something like pick the name of one of the military types that bugged the hell out of me during my time at CARET.

I thought it would be funny and appropriate if the name Isaac was actually chosen for Colonel Isaac Smith or Brigadier General "Pain in my Butt" Isaac.

Another one could be: I Saw Alien Artifacts at Caret
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« Reply #841 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 11:27am »

MarkM . i would like to start by saying .
Have you had any exp with ufo.
Have you seen any or any of the objects that look like a ballon.
I would like to know this before i state my exp.

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« Reply #842 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 11:30am »

This is the link that details the history of the forune city site as far as access of the contents by other websites. You may have seen this before. I believe it includes an entry as to when Isaac uploaded the Pdf files that created the content of the site. I am not an expert in this... others may have some pertinent viewpoint as to what this info means.

http://www.whois.ws/websearch.php?query=isaaccaret.fortunecity.com¤t_name=isaaccaret.fortunecity.com&start=1



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« Reply #843 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 11:40am »

on Jul 10th, 2007, 09:55am, castles4me wrote:
[b][color=LimeGreen]Can I just reiterate the fact that if we think we have a lead to who Isaac is that we don't post it in this forum? Why would we want to blow our only source of information out of the water and inhibit others to come forward.


I would agree - and my intention of the pm was to start a private discussion to see if this information had been discussed yet - but alas whats done is done. On a positive note - who is gonna believe a crazy idiot who buys his cat a pet alien from the Roswell gift shop.
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« Reply #844 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 11:59am »

on Jul 10th, 2007, 11:40am, windupbird wrote:
I would agree - and my intention of the pm was to start a private discussion to see if this information had been discussed yet - but alas whats done is done. On a positive note - who is gonna believe a crazy idiot who buys his cat a pet alien from the Roswell gift shop.


What?
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« Reply #845 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 12:05pm »

on Jul 10th, 2007, 06:59am, Xeroid wrote:
I do have a bit of a nagging question, one that I am sure has been asked when ever episods like this occur.

Why would those who have the control let the site stay up once discovered. Or is the true power of the internet at work here once a few people nab the files and content...the wave is rolling and no point adding to the story by shutting the site?

Maybe I answered my one question. smiley


Within minutes of the website's unveiling it had been downloaded and mirrored many times. The cat had already been let out of the bag. Closing down the website would only serve to confirm a conspiracy.
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« Reply #846 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 12:07pm »

on Jul 10th, 2007, 11:59am, Gort wrote:
What?


He said he bought his pet cat a pet alien. Pets need pets too. cheesy
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« Reply #847 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 12:14pm »

on Jul 10th, 2007, 12:07pm, Latitude wrote:
He said he bought his pet cat a pet alien. Pets need pets too. cheesy


Well, the aliens keep mutilating cats.... or taking them.... so, it's only appropriate that we give our cats some aliens too lol
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« Reply #848 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 12:17pm »

I don't understand why people are insisting that no information about "Isaac" be posted.

"Isaac" is an engineer/scientist, do you really think he wouldnt expect people to investigate every single avenue of his story?

This is the mistake the "UFO" community has been making for decades. If you really want to be taken seriously, and receive full disclosure from the government, every single story must be meticulously studied and critiqued. You have to weed out the hoaxes with veracity, so as to prevent further hoaxes and increase credibility within society.

"Isaac" released his information to C2C and the Internet. He obviously knew FULL WELL the size of the audience he would have.

If his story is true, whatever petty investigations the general public does of the material and source will be MINISCULE in comparison to what type of investigation the government could perform. If these black compartmentalized projects exist, you can be sure there will be other black compartmentalized programs specifically designed to find leaks.

I say attack this data with veracity, explore every possible avenue and DISCLOSE the information and source along with proof. Otherwise, you will just be playing into the governments hands.

If his story is true, and he has left evidence of his identity in which some random group of internet users could uncover, then the government, with their resources, will have already found him or her.

People who believe without evidence, and make claims without providing verifiable sources, do more harm than good to the ultimate cause of full disclosure.
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« Reply #849 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 12:27pm »

on Jul 10th, 2007, 09:55am, castles4me wrote:
I vote we discuss only the documents, the technology, the photos.... and NOT try and figure out who Isaac is. I am not up for helping the government kill off an informant.[/color][/b]



Just a lurker's opinion, I've been following this story from the beginning and find it to be very curious and promising...my fingers are crossed that this could turn out to be the smoking gun which would end the ET debate once and for all, then the truth be finally known. I am hoping that Isaac's identity will be exposed. I truly believe that disclosing his identity on the forum wouldn't put him at any further risk. He knew the risks when he took the reports, photos, etc with him from CARET hidden under his shirt. Besides, I truly think that the govt already knows who he is. Furthermore, knowing his true identity would only provide additional credibility to his story and allow the appropriate scrutiny to be applied. As long as Isaac is anyonmous, there will be a shadow of doubt concerning his story because no will can validate his claims.
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« Reply #850 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 12:29pm »

Cybereality - HA, you beat me to the punch and read my mind! grin
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« Reply #851 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 12:30pm »

on Jul 10th, 2007, 10:38am, WatchingWaiting wrote:
don't let that little bit of legal language scare you.


In this day and age, it's not fear, it's called covering your butt. He's an attorney. Who's to say what could happen. I still would never post them.
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« Reply #852 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 12:39pm »

CyberReality and Drewlac,

I disagree. I am going to side with Castles on this. Isaac's anonymity needs to be respected. It would be counter-productive to bite the hand that feeds us. All we can do now with respect to Isaac is analyze his website and wait for more to come.
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« Reply #853 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 12:44pm »

on Jul 10th, 2007, 12:17pm, Cybereality wrote:
I don't understand why people are insisting that no information about "Isaac" be posted.


Actually, you would have to have read something quite a few pages back to know what she meant (in green) by not posting someone's name too prematurely. What some thought we had, was a possible lead in regard to a hoaxer (Isaac), which ended up being something totally different. His picture and such made it all the way to a France website who quoted us. We looked a bit silly and this young ex-PARC employee college student was probably left scratching his head.

I posted that name as a lead though due to the timeframe that Isaac worked at PACL. The person in question worked at PARC at the same time and may know who Isaac is since they were in the same field and Isaac knew those at PARC.
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« Reply #854 on: Jul 10th, 2007, 12:44pm »

on Jul 10th, 2007, 12:39pm, Latitude wrote:
CyberReality and Drewlac,

I disagree. I am going to side with Castles on this. Isaac's anonymity needs to be respected. It would be counter-productive to bite the hand that feeds us. All we can do now with respect to Isaac is analyze his website and wait for more to come.


If Isaac's anonymity can potentially be compromised by random web users, it is already too late. Investigations with far more resources will have already uncovered him.

The path to full disclosure, resides in COMPLETE full disclosure. A "hidden" or "secretive" mindset damages the cause, people should know this by now...
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