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« Reply #1035 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 7:21pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2007, 5:39pm, Latitude wrote:
A few questions and nit-piks. So the A1 is situated horizontally? I would have thought vertical.

How does aerodynamics apply?

It's seems odd the drone would need so many rings for attitude control.

What do you surmise to be it's power source?

The witnesses had a common observation of two noises being emitted. One snapping sound which could be static discharge. The other was a sub sonic vibration. Any guesses as to what causes the vibration? Could it be something moving in the rings?

How does your speculation correlate to the Chad and Raj drones?


I Think A1(AGG) is horizontal due to the fact that the ring is too thin for a verticle mount. In the Chad series, there just isn't any other orientation that would work. Also, it's obvious that the feet are designed to hold it within a circular space. It takes a minimum of 3 supports to adjust the center an object within a circle/tube and lock it down. I think some of the same principles are at work as the accelerator in France. That is one big underground "donut" that magnetically bottles the particles as they are accelerated to the target. The opposing spikes on A1 could be generating rotating fields in opposite directions. This could be similiar to a Tesla coil. The shape of A1 could be related to a plasma that has to flow around it. My best guess is that the power up of the drone is done by a host, then A1 sustains the field due to a greater than 1:1 power effieciency. If A1 drops below 1:1 due to failure or interference, the craft would be lost. Low frequency reports could be related to the internal field frequency or the frequency of the anti-gravity field around the craft. The anti-gravity effect would be "pushing" against any solid, liquid, or gas surrounding the drone. These solids, liquids, and gases will resonate with the field frequency, thus generated sound by vibration. The internal plasma(think of a neon sign) needs to be kept in the optimum state for the propulsion requirements of any given moment. If the requirements change, the sound may change to either a higher or lower frequency. My guess is that the sounds will shift to an even more sub-audible frequency. Nobody has ever reported a high frequency pitch from a UFO that I know of.

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« Reply #1036 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 8:13pm »

I changed the BB to Grey Scale, way better than it's natural state, brings out some details much better.
The diagrams look better, the lines more visible.
It actually looks constructed.......it's looks like it's there.
Then Emboss it, jeez.
Maybe someone has done this already ?
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« Reply #1037 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 8:49pm »

Look how far Saladfinger's recreations have went.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhDj4lKp3vs

It seems to me that once people realize his videos are cgi they will likely throw the baby out with the bath water. Maybe it's a stretch but could that have been his plan all along? undecided
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« Reply #1038 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:08pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2007, 8:49pm, Latitude wrote:
Look how far Saladfinger's recreations have went.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhDj4lKp3vs

It seems to me that once people realize his videos are cgi they will likely throw the baby out with the bath water. Maybe it's a stretch but could that have been his plan all along? undecided


Lordy.... now the 'footage' originated from Brooklyn and Paris.

This is what happens when people DON'T check their facts first smiley Hey, I've been guilty of it too, but not on THIS scale!
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« Reply #1039 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:28pm »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 12:54pm, HopefulSkeptic wrote:
First, I think BigThinker may be onto something about fractals. On a side note, many crop circles are fractals...and possible links to crop circles and drones have been discussed before.

Fractals are graphical representations of mathematical formulas. So maybe there are mathematical formulas embedded within each linguistic. And the formulas might somehow interact or inter-relate to each other to form a bigger part of the greater whole. But math isn't my forte, so if this hypothesis is pointing in the direction of an answer to the mystery, it would surely remain one if it were up to me.


Hi everyone..... I am back from vacation!!! Getting caught up on the board, so forgive me for being twenty pages behind on this quote... but I really think that the Fractals are an important part of the technology used here as was RoH's post of the Turing Machine (two threads ago).

I googled Turing machine and fractals in the same sentence and got thousands of hits. I truly believe that the Turing Machine and Fractals are the key in understanding the Linguistics Primers. OK... well maybe not FULLY understanding them, but it does point to a technology and a way of thinking that makes the Linguistics Primers a mathematical and computational possibility.... which should sway any skeptics to the truth -- IF they are willing to research the technology BEHIND all of the images and documents. I have posted it before and I will say it again. The technology is what is going to prove if this is a hoax or not.
(I personally don't have the brain power right now to get my head around a turing machine and fractals, or even think that I have the intelligence to figure it out.. but it is the key to understanding it. I know that much.)
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« Reply #1040 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:43pm »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 2:52pm, leviathan6 wrote:
Do you understand the complexity of modeling just the cage from scratch, not even mentioning the imagination. I do, because I have tried it in the same program used by Sony Pictures in their studio pipeline.


I agree with you Lev.... one would have to be an outstanding cinematographer to even be able to recreate something like the Big Basin drone. Sure, it can be done... look at movies like War of the Worlds, Star Wars.... the list goes on and on.

The question would really be not IF it could be done.... the question would be WHY in the world would someone fake photos like this?

What purpose would it serve? So a group of UFO researchers on casebook could waste their time for a month?? lol There is no reason. It's all real. laugh
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« Reply #1041 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:46pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2007, 8:49pm, Latitude wrote:
Look how far Saladfinger's recreations have went.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhDj4lKp3vs

It seems to me that once people realize his videos are cgi they will likely throw the baby out with the bath water. Maybe it's a stretch but could that have been his plan all along? undecided


Yes, it's a shame that this gentleman didn't have the foresight and self restraint to allow the "facts" of this case to be investigated on their own merit.

He believed this to be a hoax from day one. He's entitled to his opinion, but he's not entitled to corrupt the evidence - and this is exactly what he's managed to do, and in so doing, he's denied others that right to form their own opinions.

His actions went well beyond investigation - although this remains the pretense - and moved full tilt into showboating.

Now he has himself a nifty little portfolio and his fifteen minutes of fame. What those just beginning to question the complexities of this mystery are left with is a series of slick fabrications. Many will never dive beneath the computer generated surface to explore further.

This is what happens when ego triumphs over reason.
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« Reply #1042 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:47pm »

Has any thought been given to what the potential "disruptions" are that may have caused the drone's invisibility to drop, thus causing this recent drone flap? I'm just curious and thinking out loud here, I was re-re-re-reading the Isaac documents tonight and wondered if he knew/knows what can "disrupt" the drone's invisibility. To quote Isaac,

"The reason they're suddenly visible, however, is another matter entirely. These crafts, assuming they're anything like the hardware I worked with in the 80's (assuming they're better, in fact), are equipped with technology that enables invisibility. That ability can be controlled both on board the craft, and remotely. However, what's important in this case is that this invisibility can also be disrupted by other technology. Think of it like radar jamming. I would bet my life savings (since I know this has happened before) that these craft are becoming visible and then returning to invisibility arbitrarily, probably unintentionally, and undoubtedly for only short periods, due to the activity of a kind of disrupting technology being set off elsewhere, but nearby. I'm especially sure of this in the case of the Big Basin sightings, were the witnesses themselves reported seeing the craft just appear and disappear. This is especially likely because of the way the witness described one of the appearances being only a momentary flicker, which is consistent with the unintentional, intermittent triggering of such a device."

This being said and assuming that it was "disruption" and not being simply turned off, there must have been some sort of other event/activity nearby at the time of each sighting to flush the craft out from its invisibility cloak.

If we only knew what that "other technology" was, we could simple turn-off the invisibility ourselves and end this once and for all, wouldn't that be nice. smiley
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« Reply #1043 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:50pm »

on Jul 21st, 2007, 4:29pm, MarkM wrote:
OK, I'm not an engineer so this is just a thought about the "insides" in relation to what we know:

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I still think the Big Basin drone IS an antigravity device... maybe not a container for the "personal" antigravity device that is only two feet long.
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« Reply #1044 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:55pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:47pm, drewlac wrote:
If we only knew what that "other technology" was, we could simple turn-off the invisibility ourselves and end this once and for all, wouldn't that be nice. smiley


Also, I think that he was implying that this disruption technology isn't military in nature.

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« Reply #1045 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:55pm »

I have a question. YOU know how the drones ,was at first invisible until something made it visible. do you think that when et abduct people ,some how or another they mite wear something that some how makes them apear or dis apear in ones home.and place some type of gadgit on the abdutee to bring the suject back to their ship. just somthing that was on my mind,on why we dont see et walking around here on earth, so now do et mybe have some type code enbeded in their body that keeps them from being seen? like the drones.
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« Reply #1046 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:59pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:47pm, drewlac wrote:
Has any thought been given to what the potential "disruptions" are that may have caused the drone's invisibility to drop, thus causing this recent drone flap?


Yes. I suggested awhile back that solar storms (flares) do a number on microwave communications. If the disruption wasn't caused by a device, this might be a natural avenue to explore, especially if - as it's been speculated - some of the features of these craft might involve microwave technology.
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« Reply #1047 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 10:00pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:47pm, drewlac wrote:
Has any thought been given to what the potential "disruptions" are that may have caused the drone's invisibility to drop, thus causing this recent drone flap? I'm just curious and thinking out loud here, I was re-re-re-reading the Isaac documents tonight and wondered if he knew/knows what can "disrupt" the drone's invisibility. To quote Isaac,

"The reason they're suddenly visible, however, is another matter entirely. These crafts, assuming they're anything like the hardware I worked with in the 80's (assuming they're better, in fact), are equipped with technology that enables invisibility. That ability can be controlled both on board the craft, and remotely. However, what's important in this case is that this invisibility can also be disrupted by other technology. Think of it like radar jamming. I would bet my life savings (since I know this has happened before) that these craft are becoming visible and then returning to invisibility arbitrarily, probably unintentionally, and undoubtedly for only short periods, due to the activity of a kind of disrupting technology being set off elsewhere, but nearby. I'm especially sure of this in the case of the Big Basin sightings, were the witnesses themselves reported seeing the craft just appear and disappear. This is especially likely because of the way the witness described one of the appearances being only a momentary flicker, which is consistent with the unintentional, intermittent triggering of such a device."

This being said and assuming that it was "disruption" and not being simply turned off, there must have been some sort of other event/activity nearby at the time of each sighting to flush the craft out from its invisibility cloak.

If we only knew what that "other technology" was, we could simple turn-off the invisibility ourselves and end this once and for all, wouldn't that be nice. smiley
Hey drewlac was we thinking at the same time. I did not see you post until i stolled back up after i had posted.I had been thinking on this all day.
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« Reply #1048 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 10:01pm »

Isaac states its technological not natural, so that would rule out solar flares.
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« Reply #1049 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 10:02pm »

Judgement! great minds think a like!
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