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« Reply #105 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 2:23pm »

^Oops, take out the "TEXT" section of that last url.. I forgot to removie it. grin
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« Reply #106 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 2:26pm »


I see Isaac's website is now sporting an AT&T/Yahoo high speed internet ad. That's big bucks.

Yeah, FortuneCity knows all about Isaac certainly and they're reaping the benefits in advertising on that site - especially since it's catering to all of the frustrated individuals on standard dial-up. FortuneCity knew exactly who to approach for that ad space.
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« Reply #107 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 2:43pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 2:00pm, Keith wrote:
I had this photo in my "X-Files" archive. It appears to have an object in front of it that looks like one of the drones. Not sure, but thought I'd throw it out to you. If I remember correctly, it was one of those Area 51 posts.

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It would appear that there is some sort of flame emanating from the back, propulsion maybes? The only reason I point this out is that if there is a flame it would suggest that something is being burned, which would fly in the face of all of the proposed, “Alien Technology”, e.g. antigravity, zero point energy etc. as these all allegedly create propulsion by bending/shifting rather than burning fuel as the fuel required for inter-galactic/planetary travel would be astronomical (pun intended) especially when you consider the size of some of the ships, they are smaller than the fuel tanks on the shuttles!!

I know I'm referring to the Alien tech as though it utilizes our tech which it obviously doesn’t i.e. the type of fuel it would use. But for the record I believe UFO’s to either use an as yet unknown (artificial?) element (a la Bob Lazar), or have a machine that creates the propulsion by employing known quantities such as gravity, but have learnt to manipulate it in ways we are just starting to dream of (rather than burning fuel as we know it, which is so 20th century!! grin)

Incidentally, the image reminds me of a jet engine, but with no plane attached (Donnie Darko style…)
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« Reply #108 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 2:44pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 2:00pm, Keith wrote:
I had this photo in my "X-Files" archive. It appears to have an object in front of it that looks like one of the drones. Not sure, but thought I'd throw it out to you. If I remember correctly, it was one of those Area 51 posts.

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yet this picture , shows in the back a rocket fire from the rear, so now is this man made? huh
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« Reply #109 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 2:58pm »

Looks like a flying, flaming frying pan.
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« Reply #110 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 2:58pm »

Referring to the drones, Castles4me wrote: "This fuss is this, that we haven't seen anything like this, these are unique sightings..."

This seems to indicate that the drones (if real) are a new type of UFO not seen or reported by the public before the Barksdale AFB, Louisiana - 1987 Airshow. Yet the items in Isaac's inventory page (dated 3Q 1985) are a good match to parts of the Big Basin drone. So where did that hardware in the photo originate?

Some possibilities-
1. The inventory photo is a hoax based on the Big Basin drone photos. Or both are hoaxes.
2. Big Basin type drones have been in our skys for ages but were invisible.
3. They crash every now and then due to some failure mode and were scavanged by the military without public knowledge.
4. They were shot down by the military. This seems unlikely if they were invisible, but perhaps the cloaking does not cover the entire EM spectrum. Therefore they can be discovered under certain conditions while cloaked.
5. The parts were a "gift" from ET in exchange for huh
6. The parts came from known crash sites like Roswell. No drone-like devices were ever reported during that era, only classic flying disks. Perhaps the disks use the same hardware as the drones, but the disks have an outer covering to make them habitable, hiding the hardware.
7. Something else?

What is the likely explanation for Isaac's hardware photo predating the drones?
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« Reply #111 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 2:59pm »

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« Reply #112 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 3:12pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 2:58pm, beenieweenie wrote:
Looks like a flying, flaming frying pan.


Say that 3 times fast! cheesy
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« Reply #113 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 3:15pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 2:58pm, Nodnunk wrote:
Referring to the drones, Castles4me wrote: "This fuss is this, that we haven't seen anything like this, these are unique sightings..."

This seems to indicate that the drones (if real) are a new type of UFO not seen or reported by the public before the Barksdale AFB, Louisiana - 1987 Airshow. Yet the items in Isaac's inventory page (dated 3Q 1985) are a good match to parts of the Big Basin drone. So where did that hardware in the photo originate?

Some possibilities-
1. The inventory photo is a hoax based on the Big Basin drone photos. Or both are hoaxes.
2. Big Basin type drones have been in our skys for ages but were invisible.
3. They crash every now and then due to some failure mode and were scavanged by the military without public knowledge.
4. They were shot down by the military. This seems unlikely if they were invisible, but perhaps the cloaking does not cover the entire EM spectrum. Therefore they can be discovered under certain conditions while cloaked.
5. The parts were a "gift" from ET in exchange for huh
6. The parts came from known crash sites like Roswell. No drone-like devices were ever reported during that era, only classic flying disks. Perhaps the disks use the same hardware as the drones, but the disks have an outer covering to make them habitable, hiding the hardware.
7. Something else?

What is the likely explanation for Isaac's hardware photo predating the drones?


According to the Isaac website the answer is 2 and 3.
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« Reply #114 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 3:15pm »

Looks like some sort of man-made, unmanned drone. Probably for reconnaissance. Doesn't look like anything extraterrestrial or "drone"-related (Big Basin, etc.) to me.

But, yeah, I'd like to see some more images (if there are any).
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« Reply #115 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 3:30pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 2:58pm, Nodnunk wrote:
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5. The parts were a "gift" from ET in exchange for huh


It's a cookbook! It's a cookbook! grin


on Jul 17th, 2007, 2:58pm, Nodnunk wrote:
6. The parts came from known crash sites like Roswell. No drone-like devices were ever reported during that era, only classic flying disks. Perhaps the disks use the same hardware as the drones, but the disks have an outer covering to make them habitable, hiding the hardware.


Now that begs the question... just what is a classic "flying disk?"

The original sighting by Kenneth Arnold, which “started it all” (described the movement as saucers skipping over water, which coined the phrase flying saucer) but they really looked more like flying wings than disks.

In fact this argument has been used by debunkers to show that people see what they want to see... it was called a flying saucer and that is what people see. I think people, when faced with the indescribable, do the best that they can to explain what they have no language to describe (that is if they are telling the truth).
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« Reply #116 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 3:35pm »

Too all!

BJ is going to run this thread as an article tomorrow morning in the UFO Casebook website. Now I know I leave things out that might appear to be important to to others - so, let me know on how I can improve the introduction of this thread on page one.
All comments welcome - in my PM.

And, I hope tomorrow brings with it more ideas that we can filter through.

Of course, we also know tomorrow will also bring more 'unhealthy skepticism' and 'debunkers' so mind your P's and Q's, we'll deal with it as we have in the past.

Thanks
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« Reply #117 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 3:41pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 3:30pm, bakosawa wrote:
The original sighting by Kenneth Arnold, which “started it all” (described the movement as saucers skipping over water, which coined the phrase flying saucer) but they really looked more like flying wings than disks.


That "skipping" motion is very much like what was described by the drone witnesses as dragonfly jumping, or the Alabama security guard saying that the tail jumped from one place to another and at times looked like it was in both places at once.

Is this a common trait of UFOs, to jump from one place to another in quantum steps/leaps?
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« Reply #118 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 3:46pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 12:18pm, Latitude wrote:
Good find, OTF. That puts one of my concerns to rest too.
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This is a good example of someone who is willing to do the necessary analysis instead of simply posting "it's obvious ....".


Does this mean that Casper go bye bye?
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« Reply #119 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 3:56pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 1:37pm, CentralScrutinizer wrote:
Gottigo (Francine) actually lives in the San Fernando Valley, and her videos are taken towards "Mt. Oat", a former rocketdyne facility.


I could see Vandenburg missles from Orange County so I'm sure she had no problem getting close ups out of the SF Valley.
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