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« Reply #120 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 3:57pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 08:40am, urantia606 wrote:
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There appears to be some similar elements to the top of the Drone craft.
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« Reply #121 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 3:57pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 1:37pm, CentralScrutinizer wrote:
Gottigo (Francine) actually lives in the San Fernando Valley, and her videos are taken towards "Mt. Oat", a former rocketdyne facility. Some of her videos are shot of the top of the mountain, the Nike Missile Test Base #88, and some are shot a little lower. The lower elevation videos are shot at the filming Location for the TV show "The Unit", so I'm not sure what to make of that yet...but she does have several very unusual videos there. She has sent me some photos that I'm checking out as well. I went out there to the base of the mountain last Wednesday (July 11), and, had a strange, if not most likely coincidental experience myself, after shooting 4 images of the missile base, involving a helicopter. I've been talking to Gottigo for about 2 weeks now, and have just begun into investigating the area to see if I can find out more. There is no doubt in my mind that her videos are authentic, as well as her photographs...the question is, which are truly unknowns (and I do believe there are a few), and which can be explained (I'm sure for some of the videos there is a connection to the 'lighting' to what might be being filmed at the time on the set of "The Unit". The entire Santa Susanna mt. range there above Chatsworth has been a site of numerous anomalous reports over the years... many of which I believe are connected to the Aurora project, of which I recently put up a short 'info' report on YouTube about that as well, showing a ...well, a very primative, and quickly made demonstration map of the sightings and the Flight pattern (speculated).

To date, I should point out, since the question might come... none of the photos that I've received appears to be even remotely related to any of the drone photos.

Also, (it's kind of on topic here and off topic) I feel one of her best videos shot is actually on bry3500's page, but it's got some odd stuff...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DH1Das2nPek


If someone you have a chance to revisit these sites, . please look for a zig-zag path like a winding road since those lights traveled very similarly to two cars moving down the hill. The lights even got brighter when they "turned the corner" and shone directly into the camera.

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« Reply #122 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:08pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 3:57pm, onthefence55 wrote:
If someone you have a chance to revisit these sites, . please look for a zig-zag path like a winding road since those lights traveled very similarly to two cars moving down the hill. The lights even got brighter when they "turned the corner" and shone directly into the camera.



No question about that (the cars.) I went to google earth a few days ago, and took a top view, and there are many dirt roads up there zig zagging... I have almost no doubt that those two lower lights are cars, based mostly on what you stated above... the only light I was kind of mystified by is the one that stays in the sky. If it's a helicopter....it sure doesn't do much, and at that range would be identifiable....if it's an illumination flare, there should be some incindiary discharge... the one thing that I can think of tho, is the installation there is pretty well lit up as well...and that is the lower site, which is a location for the tv show "The Unit"...maybe some tie in there somehow, and that was some pyro involved with the production.
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« Reply #123 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:12pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 3:56pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
I could see Vandenburg missles from Orange County so I'm sure she had no problem getting close ups out of the SF Valley.


Oh the Vandenberg launches are fantastic. I used to live in San Luis Obispo (about 35 miles North of Vandenberg AFB), and every time an atlas or vanguard went up, people would freak out about the contrails....because they would dissipate and glow red at sunset, and think that there was an accident at Diablo Canyon Nuclear power plant nearby.
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« Reply #124 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:18pm »

When I first heard the "Ted Connors" interview, I thought it may not be likely
that there would be enough light at 05:45 to discern unusual characters on the
craft's 'wing'.

After fiddling with Sketchup I realized that "...30 to 40 yards off in the distance..."
is not that far, and neither is "...around, altitude-wise, mabybe 40 to 60 foot...".

So I think it's entirely possible that 'Ted' "...could see these patterns..."
"...just before daylight - the sun was coming up...", depending on the orientation of the
'wing' in relation to 'Ted'.

These images use completely arbitrary sizes; just over 6' for the 'drone body' diameter,
and about 19' for the 'wing' length. Yes, it is all out of proportion and my 'characters' are
twice as big as they should probably be, but the aim was merely to see if unusual characters
were discernable. I think it's possible, even in low light, but still debatable.

Establishing shot for perspective;
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Dawn;
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..with added 'fog' for good measure;
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« Reply #125 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:20pm »

I noticed the same thing with the lights. My thought was kids with flashlights on the hillside though. Someone might check the orientation of the camera in relation to Venus for the one in the sky. Venus is very prominent in California's western sky right now.

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« Reply #126 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:21pm »

Maybe I am a bit late with my 2cents but just want to share my opinion about the introduced documents as a pro graphic designer.

Isaac´s documents can be done pretty easily in Illustrator and Photoshop. I would personally use lllustrator to apply basic forms and texts and finally run it thru photoshop to make some skewing etc. errors. To remove "too" clean look I would lastly take a copy with lo-quality settings, copy machines tend to make that artificial ink look for documents. Dont forget, using digital tools doesnt mean you cant use old tricks at the same time.

If this was a commissioned project, I would estimate working hours to be roughly 20-30 if excecuted this well. The font set would take 3-5hours alone. Dont know about text, but anyone can count if that takes time or talent very much.

Photos of the objects can be real, I cant imagine why would anyone use 3D programs for stuff that can be made by combining ordinary pieces of scifi toys. I wouldnt, only if the objects werent already available with small tweaks. And as we know, ALL new commercial objects are available in virtual 3D nowadays.

I have no opinion if these are for real or not anyway. Even they were all real they could be taken as fake, one can find errors in ANY photo and documetns eventho that wasnt the case.

I havent checked out any images out in Photoshop so this all is just a quick thought cool



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« Reply #127 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:21pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 12:29pm, castles4me wrote:
There is something brewing in the air. I wouldn't go as far as the poster yesterday talking about the war between the Grey's and the Reptilians and the secret underground bunkers, lol BUT -- there very well could be competing alien's. Could be why the decloaking has happened recently. Maybe it wasn't US who decloaked the drones.... it was another alien technology of a different race.


The implication is that the Reptiles have been living in Earth for a long time and the Greys, presumably the visitors, have had a disagreement of sorts and the Greys are here for battle.
If the Reptiles are Earthlings from who knows when, perhaps we should call them the dinosaurs.


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« Reply #128 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:25pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 4:20pm, hjdelight wrote:
I noticed the same thing with the lights. My thought was kids with flashlights on the hillside though. Someone might check the orientation of the camera in relation to Venus for the one in the sky. Venus is very prominent in California's western sky right now.

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If you mean the pink 'orb' light in the sky, from the point that image was taken, the camera would be facing Northeast. Hmm, maybe a separate thread if anyone's interested, since we're kinda getting off topic here, and I don't wanna be accused of hijacking smiley
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« Reply #129 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:40pm »

Well, here comes the bad news. I jumped the fence to the hoax side.
http://www.kbvp.com/sites/default/files/images/ChadRajman16Headline%20FAKE_1.preview.jpg

I still have an open mind since I've seen a UFO, but I'm going to expend less time on the drones. If anybody sees where this photo of Chad's isn't fake due to the area pointed out, I'll dive back in. The analysis at the above link explains my position and suspicions.

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« Reply #130 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:44pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 3:35pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Too all!

BJ is going to run this thread as an article tomorrow morning in the UFO Casebook website. Now I know I leave things out that might appear to be important to to others - so, let me know on how I can improve the introduction of this thread on page one.
All comments welcome.

And, I hope tomorrow brings with it more ideas that we can filter through.

Of course, we also know tomorrow will also bring more 'unhealthy skepticism' and 'debunkers' so mind your P's and Q's, we'll deal with it as we have in the past.

Thanks


I'll be sure to be smell nice and have my hair combed.

I may even get my shoes shined.

We'll all be on our best behavour.
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« Reply #131 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:47pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 4:40pm, Keith wrote:
Well, here comes the bad news. I jumped the fence to the hoax side.
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You need to go back about a hundred pages or so.
It was already solved by one of the members. The wire was demonstrated to be there and not missing.
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« Reply #132 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:48pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 4:40pm, Keith wrote:
Well, here comes the bad news. I jumped the fence to the hoax side.
http://www.kbvp.com/sites/default/files/images/ChadRajman16Headline%20FAKE_1.preview.jpg

I still have an open mind since I've seen a UFO, but I'm going to expend less time on the drones. If anybody sees where this photo of Chad's isn't fake due to the area pointed out, I'll dive back in. The analysis at the above link explains my position and suspicions.

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The wire is not missingl. It just so happens that the winding covering, which is a lighter color, happens to be showing where it is under the object and is shaded".

Many people have seen and discussed this. Conclusion" not fake at all.
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« Reply #133 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:51pm »

Are people bothering to read the previous threads? Or just jumping in now and not doing their homework?

On a different note, I saw a video of google earth UFO's. I was wondering if anyones looked around the area on google earth for any drone images? If this was covered in a previous post then I'll go hide away in shame. Just a long shot.
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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #134 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:55pm »

OK...

Here it is... don't beat me on this, but this is what I though I was seeing...

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Notice the odd way it is leaning on the left picture... like a toy.

And close up...

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