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« Reply #1365 on: Jul 24th, 2007, 9:31pm »


Why don't you go and invite him too Latitude?
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« Reply #1366 on: Jul 24th, 2007, 9:35pm »

ufo case book is a good place for me.
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« Reply #1367 on: Jul 24th, 2007, 9:44pm »

on Jul 24th, 2007, 07:16am, bakosawa wrote:
Interesting report... awesome music (do you sell soundtracks?).


Heh, actually about 5 years ago I did release 3 CDs.... a total run of 5000 copies, for sale in local record stores (mom and pop shops) in Los Angeles....that is, when there WERE privately owned record stores... and they actually sold out. since then I haven't had any more made, and after 3 moves in the last 3 years (Finally arriving at my final destination), I've been able to find 2 of the 3 CD cases..... and only one of the CDs.... but fortunately I have them all in their original mod/s3m format, and some converted to mp3.
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« Reply #1368 on: Jul 24th, 2007, 9:49pm »

on Jul 24th, 2007, 4:26pm, isawaufooverparis wrote:
I think the LMH articles become under subscription in an automatic way: after a couple of weeks or so they're not available anymore for free. I may have read that someday when I got a subscription, I'm not very sure though.


Automatic or intentional though... I mean, this is supposedly information that is out there that will have an impact on humanity...on all mankind.... I, as well as others sent her a letter in this respect (not that I expect it truly had any impact). If information is deemed that important, it should be freely distributed. First, if it is that important, it should be readily attainable. second, people who start charging for that information, it's like they're trying to be paid for works of fiction, and recover intellectual property rights. Sadly, technically it's not HER story, or ANYONEs story except for the witnesses... why should they profit off of someone else's experience...

The same holds true for the new book on the MJ-12 docs, in my opinion.

I just am one that doesn't believe that TRUTH should come with a price tag.

Unfortunately, in the realm of paranormal phenomenon, there are so many people out there who see it as a cash cow.. and for ME, that takes away from their credibility.
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« Reply #1369 on: Jul 24th, 2007, 9:56pm »

on Jul 24th, 2007, 6:20pm, MarkM wrote:
Not that I'm a fan of this particular board, but a link on OM took me there. Scroll down to the post by EngineeringType. It continues thorough the next page. Excellent post, very well written critique of the CARET docs.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289007/pg125
Yup, I hope engineering type joins us here. He would be a real asset to our thread and an excellent caller for Fridays show. Good find MarkM and great post Engineering Type.
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« Reply #1370 on: Jul 24th, 2007, 10:18pm »

on Jul 24th, 2007, 9:31pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Why don't you go an invite him too Latitude?


I would but like I said before, I'm banned from ATS... twice! angry
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« Reply #1371 on: Jul 25th, 2007, 01:06am »

on Jul 24th, 2007, 9:49pm, CentralScrutinizer wrote:
I just am one that doesn't believe that TRUTH should come with a price
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I totally agree. Whenever anyone proclaims that he or she is the exclusive repository of "the truth", I automatically cringe and their credibility quotient plunges through the floor. It seems to me that there are some things which, if true, are so momentous, that no person of goodwill would hold it close to the vest. But what the heck do I know!
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« Reply #1372 on: Jul 25th, 2007, 03:32am »

on Jul 24th, 2007, 9:49pm, CentralScrutinizer wrote:
The same holds true for the new book on the MJ-12 docs, in my opinion.

I agree with you but I think you can't always pay for the others and you must be paid for the bandwith at least. Ufocasebook videos are not free either and it's not shocking: it's a lot of time to compress them in order to make them available.
Regarding the Majestic documents, I've always read they were fake... And I assume we have to pay for the report because it cost a lot of money for Michael S. Heiser to ask for it from Carol Chaski.
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« Reply #1373 on: Jul 25th, 2007, 03:37am »

on Jul 24th, 2007, 10:18pm, Latitude wrote:
I would but like I said before, I'm banned from ATS... twice! angry

I first came to ATS but I thought it wasn't a very pleasant forum. Then I went to Open Minds forum where they are very proud of themselves and spit on Ufocasebook forum (french expression). Eventually, I got to Ufocasebook forum where I think it's a very good place to be! ATO is great and the people are nice and open-minded.
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« Reply #1374 on: Jul 25th, 2007, 03:45am »

on Jul 25th, 2007, 03:32am, isawaufooverparis wrote:
I agree with you but I think you can't always pay for the others and you must be paid for the bandwith at least. Ufocasebook videos are not free either and it's not shocking: it's a lot of time to compress them in order to make them available.
Regarding the Majestic documents, I've always read they were fake... And I assume we have to pay for the report because it cost a lot of money for Michael S. Heiser to ask for it from Carol Chaski.


Well, certainly people should have the OPTION to purchase a video, book, or any kind of hardcopy media, etc.... as far as bandwidth, lots of sites out there make quite a bit of money if they generate enough hits, with advertising... I mean, I know when I ran a page that 'in its day' was pretty big, I had no problems affording the bandwidth, covering my overhead, and yes, made enough to help out with some bills...and I never had to charge a USER a single penny. It was purely subsidized by outside advertising no harm, no foul. no one was forced to go to the advertising pages, it was a simple link...small simple ads.
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« Reply #1375 on: Jul 25th, 2007, 09:05am »

Please humor me on this… this is probably wrong and I and sure there are a lot of good folks out there that can help me on this….

1. To me, there is something wrong with the shadows on the Anti-grav and curved I-beam photos.

The shadows are blue in color. Why would the shadows be blue in color? Not only are they blue, but blue shows up on the Ty photos for the “feelers” (on the top of the drone and in the ring thingies) and the sides of some objects. More mysteriously… they are the same hue of blue (around 149-150 as picked by Paintbrush).

What is odd about the connection… is that the shadows for the Anti-gav parts should a best be achromatic gray. Why would the shadows be blue? Why would they be the same hue as the blue areas on the Ty hi-res photo?

Why are the backgrounds on both photos white (where are the walls, table, corners or floor or any background detail if this is “lab” photo?

2. I have a theory… Ty = Isaac.

Any suggestions to help me disprove this?
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« Reply #1376 on: Jul 25th, 2007, 09:15am »

on Jul 25th, 2007, 03:37am, isawaufooverparis wrote:
I went to Open Minds forum where they spit on Ufocasebook forum (french expression).

Please do not start a silly wars between these two open minded forums. That is all we have for time being.
Your remark is untrue, it must be someone in particular, not the Mods attitude.
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« Reply #1377 on: Jul 25th, 2007, 10:21am »

on Jul 25th, 2007, 09:05am, bakosawa wrote:
2. I have a theory… Ty = Isaac.

Any suggestions to help me disprove this?


I am afraid that this will be the case. I have read every single post in these threads and was quite excited until I ran across a post where the poster had shown the isaac photo of the disk and the ty photo, next to each other.

Here's what bothers me the disc shown on the concrete and the main structure of the Ty photo appear to be identical, as in the same piece. With all of the photos of "drones" and their variations. Isaacs disc and the Ty photo seem to be identical. I wouldn't say this is impossible but I have spent nearly 50 years building and fixing "stuff". cars, boats, airplanes - none of them have ever been identical, even though the are supposed to be.

The particular piece that I was looking at is the ring, that looks like stainless wire held by stand offs to the body of the ring. After the stand offs on the ring are little nubs, it just seems odd that they would be exactly the same as a piece of "wreckage" from 20 years ago, particularly if you are going to accept that the other sightings have variations.

Could there be "drones" - possibly. Could we be on the brink of a great disclosure - maybe. Are Ty and Isaac one in the same - IMHO most likely.

By the way the piece of concrete will also give you clues to the width of the ring -- the expansion joints 1/4 to 1/2 inch. The strip in the concrete 1/2 inch, the scars in the concrete most likely form a vehicle wheel, 5 to six inches. I have seen these cars on concrete forever particularly at race tracks and on airport tarmac. The piece of missing concrete not so big or it would have been patched probably 6 to 10 inches.

Don't want to be a wet blanket just want to share were I went over to the hoax side.

My money is on the crop circle with the witnesses
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« Reply #1378 on: Jul 25th, 2007, 11:19am »

on Jul 25th, 2007, 10:21am, brm1 wrote:
I am afraid that this will be the case. I have read every single post in these threads and was quite excited until I ran across a post where the poster had shown the isaac photo of the disk and the ty photo, next to each other.

Welcome! I'm not sure you've read all the threads because if it was true you would have read that the discs you're speaking about are not exactly the same. Moreover, I'm a bit surprised by what you're saying about the similarities between two artifacts: many objects are identical (IMO). For instance, I can't find any difference in between two cars of the same series. Or an example: in Paris, they've just installed thousands of bycicles everybody can hire and they're all IDENTICAL. Actually, I studied them yesterday and I can assure you that you can't make any difference between them.
If Ty=Isaac / Raj= ??? / Chad=??? / and the others?
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« Reply #1379 on: Jul 25th, 2007, 11:32am »

A bike is a rather simple piece, but I imagine if you looked at an line of very up scale bikes you will find a big variance. I am talking about things like airplanes and boats and limited production cars. They are quite different, when you are building things there is always a better way and an improvement that can be made over the last one.

I don't recall a discussion of the the two parts being different, I will look -- but it is difficult to search as all of the key words are used so frequently.
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