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« Reply #150 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:16pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 4:21pm, Juniper wrote:
Maybe I am a bit late with my 2cents but just want to share my opinion about the introduced documents as a pro graphic designer.

Isaac´s documents can be done pretty easily in Illustrator and Photoshop. I would personally use lllustrator to apply basic forms and texts and finally run it thru photoshop to make some skewing etc. errors. To remove "too" clean look I would lastly take a copy with lo-quality settings, copy machines tend to make that artificial ink look for documents. Dont forget, using digital tools doesnt mean you cant use old tricks at the same time.


We'll be awaiting your example.
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« Reply #151 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:17pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 4:55pm, bakosawa wrote:
OK...

Here it is... don't beat me on this, but this is what I though I was seeing...

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Notice the odd way it is leaning on the left picture... like a toy.

And close up...

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Just my thoughts.


Good one. It does look like that. I'm just glad I'm not the only one seeing something in there.
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« Reply #152 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:17pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 4:55pm, bakosawa wrote:
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Begun, the Drone Wars have.
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« Reply #153 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:17pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 4:20pm, hjdelight wrote:
Someone might check the orientation of the camera in relation to Venus for the one in the sky. Venus is very prominent in California's western sky right now.


The first part of her video showed the object moving rapidly upwards. Venus would have remained stationary for the duration of her short video.
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« Reply #154 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:20pm »

It's in the wrong direction from Venus anyway.
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« Reply #155 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:20pm »

Regarding the CGI artist who has been duplicating the drones - he's extremely talented, no question there. However, I saw the "mushroom" type drone he created from his own imagination (incorporating some elements from the original drone images). There's no way that I would have identified that as anything other than a CGI piece.
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« Reply #156 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:21pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 6:14pm, castles4me wrote:
If someone was hoaxing this BIG HUGE laid out hoax....

I don't think that they would make 4 or 5 different kind of drones.

I don't think they would put the parts on the floor that only matched 2 of the drones.

If someone hoaxed this... they would probably only use one type of drone, and the pieces on the floor of the photo would match the one drone. Period.

There wouldn't be 5 different types of drones, and parts on the floor that matched only 2 of the 5 that we could see, with possibilities of even more drone styles. Doesn't make sense. Its real... it's all real.


That's it exactly Castle, it's just that nobody wants to look at that issue. Not to mention the timeframes. We've got one in 1987, 1995, 2005, three in 2006, 8 separate accounts in 2007, plus Isaac.

Besides Isaac, there are 14 different sightings of same or similar in 5 different years and most all sightings had more then one witness.
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« Reply #157 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:24pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 6:20pm, MarkM wrote:
Regarding the CGI artist who has been duplicating the drones - he's extremely talented, no question there. However, I saw the "mushroom" type drone he created from his own imagination (incorporating some elements from the original drone images). There's no way that I would have identified that as anything other than a CGI piece.


That's the problem though, he's too wrapped up in CGI so he thinks only in those terms and doesn't care to look at what Castle just mentioned. He's guilty of unhealthy skepticism is all. He is good at what he does though.
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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #158 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:30pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 5:09pm, MarkM wrote:
bakosawa, that's so funny! That was the first thing I thought of, too, but didn't want to add to the debate. But, I really had to stretch for that, and quite honestly I don't see anything extraordinary.

Maybe that's why LMH is holding out on the hi res photos, she wants to run them by George Lucas!


Honestly... I was not trying to be funny... that's just the first impression that jumped into my head (I guess I have been watching too much StarWars)... it was more along that inkblot idea. That was what I was seeing there. And who knows, if this is a cosmic joke... this would be appropriate. If not, then this is one weird alien (it can hide in my kid’s toy chest I will never, ever know… the ultimate camouflage).

After seeing this, I thought George was involved. cheesy
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« Reply #159 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:32pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 5:51pm, Nodnunk wrote:
On the invisibility front-
The diagram from the MSNBC site needs to be viewed with its caption in mind:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12961080/

Caption: "The black lines in this drawing show the path that light rays would take through a theoretical cloaking device. The device's metamaterial would be patterned in such a way to route the rays around the cloaked sphere."

The inner sphere is the cloaked object, the outer sphere represents the interface beyond which the object is totally cloaked. The light rays represent some of the rays from a point source at infinity impinging on the cloaked object. The rays are bent around the object in such a way that the object casts no shadow. The diagram has nothing to do with the drones.


So are you saying that something could actually be sitting in those drones there within what we thought was an antenna array and we just don't see it. That wouldn't be the kind of of invisibility that we're using certainly since ours is tricks and not technology.
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« Reply #160 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:32pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 4:42pm, leviathan6 wrote:
This point has been fully discussed at OMF. The wire is not missing. Please see OMF for an exhaustive discussion on this.


Yep. How many of these supposed smoking guns have come and gone? I've seen so many I lost count. All of them were systematically shot down one by one.
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« Reply #161 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:32pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 10:33am, AVISITOR wrote:
TEXTPersonally I can't see what all the fuss is about.Different people are saying, "what's this"? and "what's this for"? or "what does this do"? Sure, the probes may be unlike anything that we've encountered before but so what? Haven't we Humans sent probes that look very strange to other Planets and also deep into Space? Why should an "Alien probe" look familiar to us? I would be extremely doubtful about its authenticity if this was the case. Maybe, just maybe, these probes are the forerunners to actual "public contact" as opposed to the contact that the Military and Security Agencies have encountered. The signs are becoming more frequent that something amazing is about to happen. Personally I can't wait for "public contact", it's about time it did happen. I don't think that we, as Humans, are in any great danger from any Alien Race in particular. It's obvious to me that the Aliens are far more advanced than us technologically at least. If they wanted to do us any real harm then I'm sure they would have already done so by now. For all you fatalists out there, "Independance Day" was only a movie.

cool cool cool cool cool


They should meet just regular people (not the guy that said shoot it down, stay away from him), not our so called "Leaders", the Greater Good isn't in their plans.
Whereas I would say, How ya doin', take long to get here ? I know we just met....but can I drive once before you go ?
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« Reply #162 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:34pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 6:15pm, MarkM wrote:
OMG = great minds think alike! it was the first example that came to mind. How bout I make it a $5 bill? wink

Anyway, I think we all pretty much co-authored that point.


There just isn't room for two geniuses on this Forum.....LOL
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« Reply #163 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:37pm »

True - I'll go back into my room now and play with my storm troopers smiley
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« Reply #164 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:43pm »

I'm having some trouble believing that the isaac documents are genuine classified military documents. The reason for this is they look nothing like classified documents in that they do not have a classification on them anywhere, not even the cover page. In my line of work for the military I deal with classified documents on a daily basis of all commonly known classifications, and I have only seen a small handful of classified documents that do not fit the format used throughout the military.

As Isaac pointed out, this operation was run by military brass and he as a civilian was a subordinate to these men. If the CARET program was/is run by military officers then they would feel most comfortable using the standard format of classification marking used by the military to keep things familiar.

UNCLASSIFIED +/- FOUO documents have green text or text backing.
Confidential - Blue
SECRET - RED
TOP SECRET - Yellow or Orange

There are also numerous additional tags that give you help with discerning who the document is releasable to.

This is an example I found on the web of two SECRET documents. Notice the red lettering and border of the cover. I'm not sure why this picture was allowed to be shot, especially since one of the pilots has his document out of the plastic.

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