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« Reply #165 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:43pm »


Begun, the Drone Wars have.

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(sorry, I needed to post that again lol -- for you old timers, this is a play on a line in the Star Wars II Attack of the Clones -- where Master Yoda says "Begun, the Clone Wars have! -- oh and a Clone is what "doll" the boys are playing with there in the drone picture)
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« Reply #166 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:44pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 4:55pm, bakosawa wrote:
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Here it is... don't beat me on this, but this is what I though I was seeing...

Sorry to go over old ground but I can’t believe how close that is, the top one is yours with the stormtrooper turned round and the bottom one is the same with the stormtrooper outline (clumsily) dragged over.

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Doesn’t mean much though, and probably says more about the human mind than the image, but intriguing nevertheless!!
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« Reply #167 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:56pm »

DrDil - you should send that to LMH, maybe she'll finally let go of those hi res photos!
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« Reply #168 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:58pm »

Hi Syn:

Great photo. Say, what about that writing on the blackboard......for gosh sake is that SECRET?

We kinda figure that the place where Isaac worked in the 1980s was set up to feel like a civilian research center with commercial applications. Like real cozy with coffee and donuts by the watercooler.

He says the military waltz in only every three weeks for look see....I'm sure even they wore civilian suits on their visits. They didn't want to spook the guys with the pocket protectors. Hense no classification markings on the doc. All real casual.

The military wanted to get down to brass tacks real fast and get going on the ET materials so they turned to those REAL smart guys in the civilian world.

Of course the military really lured the geeky civilian guys to work there to reverse-engineer alien artifacts so they could use them on MILITARY WEAPONS.

As Isaac said about a fourth of the engineers got fed up and left about the time he did.
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« Reply #169 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:59pm »

Maybe we should reexamine the other drones for the Roaming Gnome and Waldo wink!
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« Reply #170 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 7:02pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 6:43pm, syn wrote:
I'm having some trouble believing that the isaac documents are genuine classified military documents. The reason for this is they look nothing like classified documents in that they do not have a classification on them anywhere, not even the cover page. In my line of work for the military I deal with classified documents on a daily basis of all commonly known classifications, and I have only seen a small handful of classified documents that do not fit the format used throughout the military.


I see your point, however there is always exceptions to every rule. Who knows HOW they handled it there at CARET. And, maybe the binder that the documents were in was red with SECRET on it. Doesn't prove a thing.
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« Reply #171 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 7:05pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 5:49pm, MarkM wrote:
I need to take a minute to express something that seems to be getting overlooked by all of the back seat graphic artists who are recreating the craft and linguistic elements. I say this as an artist myself - both computer graphics and fine art - having the skills and the technical tools to reproduce something that has already been brought into existence is one thing. Having the creative spark to conceive of and execute something unique, is quite another.



on Jul 17th, 2007, 5:53pm, hjdelight wrote:
Once again Mark drags the wagon back onto the trail. Very good once again.

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This is all good and fine as long as keep in mind that this is really in the realm of opinion and speculation… and that it is not objective evidence or proof.

Just because it would take effort and original thinking does not prove the point one way or the other. There are many simple, easy hoaxes… but some more complex ones too. I recall arguments about how the Ray Santilli alien autopsy film was real and too complex and “how do you keep that many people from talking about it…” and wouldn't that cost a lot of money? Wishful thinking did not make it a fact.

If your goal is prove that this story is true, and you solely depend on ideas, principles and evidence that only supports the truth of this story, then the only type of proof you will find will be those ideas, principles and evidence that appear to prove that you are right. But in the end, it is likely that you will not be standing on solid ground. (By the way… this is the principle and logic on how propaganda works... this is how one is led down the path… never suspecting, not even an inkle, the fact that they have been misled and that they are terribly wrong). One must allow and test to see it is false. If you can not prove that it is false… then it must be true. If you do your homework, then you are guaranteed a sure winner every time.
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« Reply #172 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 7:06pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 6:56pm, MarkM wrote:
DrDil - you should send that to LMH, maybe she'll finally let go of those hi res photos!


I already sent it. She's not responding. I think there is a chance she already knew about the figure in the cage. This could be why the hi res pics are not out yet. Kind of like the Isaac papers being blacked out in spots. Too sensitive for public viewing.
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« Reply #173 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 7:06pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 6:43pm, syn wrote:
I'm having some trouble believing that the isaac documents are genuine classified military documents.
UNCLASSIFIED +/- FOUO documents have green text or text backing.
Confidential - Blue
SECRET - RED
TOP SECRET - Yellow or Orange


But was that the standard 20 years ago on technical manuals?
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« Reply #174 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 7:12pm »

I think we're both pretty much making the same point here. However, I don't think it's "in the realm of speculation or opinion" to state that the ability to replicate something proves that the original something is a fake. Likewise, it doesn't prove that it isn't a fake. An open mind swings both ways. It's the first group, the ones that dismiss validity based on duplication, that I was speaking of.
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« Reply #175 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 7:14pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 6:58pm, urantia606 wrote:
We kinda figure that the place where Isaac worked in the 1980s was set up to feel like a civilian research center with commercial applications. Like real cozy with coffee and donuts by the watercooler.

He says the military waltz in only every three weeks for look see....I'm sure even they wore civilian suits on their visits. They didn't want to spook the guys with the pocket protectors. Hense no classification markings on the doc. All real casual.

The military wanted to get down to brass tacks real fast and get going on the ET materials so they turned to those REAL smart guys in the civilian world.

Of course the military really lured the geeky civilian guys to work there to reverse-engineer alien artifacts so they could use them on MILITARY WEAPONS.

As Isaac said about a fourth of the engineers got fed up and left about the time he did.


Yeah, this is the first question that popped into my head when I first read the Isaac website. It would also be my second question to Isaac should he come here.

The entire concept of CARET does not make sense. How could Isaac and all his egghead associates really believe they were working on "Commercial Applications" with military brass overseeing the entire project? But Isaac did mention something about selling the secrets to the private sector and then funneling the money into black projects. Still sounds hokey.
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« Reply #176 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 7:16pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 6:59pm, MarkM wrote:
Maybe we should reexamine the other drones for the Roaming Gnome and Waldo wink!


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OK -- Isaac we need more real stuff to analyze here lol I'm goin' plumb kookoo.
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« Reply #177 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 7:19pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 7:06pm, Latitude wrote:
I already sent it. She's not responding. I think there is a chance she already knew about the figure in the cage. This could be why the hi res pics are not out yet. Kind of like the Isaac papers being blacked out in spots. Too sensitive for public viewing.


Yikes, just thought of something... what if the guy in the cage is NOT alien... but human. I remember posting something in jest on the first thread that it looked like a cage where they could pick up humans (or something to that effect)
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« Reply #178 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 7:19pm »

Does anyone know what the highest resolution photo of the BB drone available is?

I think this is just a case of finding an area of lines and shadows and playing a matching game, but I'd like to look at a better one.

This has nothing to do with the "figure", and I know that I'm swimming against the current here, but that's the only one that bothers me (OK I'll shut up now). No, I'm not saying it's a fake so don't throw fireballs at me smiley!
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« Reply #179 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 7:24pm »

It could be nothing, but what the hey - I've seen all kinds of funny stuff in this thread today smiley

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