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« Reply #210 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 9:58pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 9:38pm, AgentM wrote:
I think that Urantia's post regarding that microwave invisability technique should be considered when discussing the purpose of the top cage of the drones.

It makes perfect sense that it would function as a microwave receiver to enable cloaking. Meaning that it sits on top and the drone receives a steady microwave from somewhere or above.

Issacs featured artifacts seem to be the units responsible for antigrav not for cloaking, maybe the top cage is part of the cloaking system. Possible older technology for ET.


I agree, microwaves are a part of this. It was brought up awhile back - when talking about the possible "mission" of the drones, that they may somehow be used for surveillance. They could actually be intercepting microwave communications.
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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #211 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 10:02pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 6:44pm, DrDil wrote:
Sorry to go over old ground but I cant believe how close that is, the top one is yours with the stormtrooper turned round and the bottom one is the same with the stormtrooper outline (clumsily) dragged over.

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Doesnt mean much though, and probably says more about the human mind than the image, but intriguing nevertheless!!


It just means that aliens like George Lucas too! smiley
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« Reply #212 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 10:34pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 8:54pm, castles4me wrote:
So, they let them have a bit of a less rigid military setting, one that was more civilian, condusive to allowing genius brains to function. One that they were hoping would keep up with the precursors to silicon valley, the civilian companies that were advancing computer science.

If military were too overbearing and oppressive, you probably couldn't get much number crunching out of them.

so, the documents weren't stamped "SECRET" well.. they already KNEW they were secret lol And, the "Military Muscle" wasn't in stamps on documents, it was waiting at the corners of the halls and frisking everyone that walked out. Maybe they weren't concerned about putting secret on there, when they were making sure no one left with anything secret.

This particular genius who had made it to management level, made out with some papers though. WAY TO GO Isaac! I'd say if he had the intelligence to figure out complex linguistics and the like, he could figure out how to walk out of there with a little sumpin sumpin stuffed down his shirt lol


This paticular genius is telling you on the one hand how secure it was... yet the other hand how he just walked out with the documents and photos(so he is telling you it was not secure). He can not have it both ways. Either they watched him or they did not. His claim is that they did watch him, holding machine guns. So no one noticed him sneek the papers into his pants or walk into the bathroom with papers (and think, gee thats odd) and walk out without them. Nope, no problem here (try that at a department store... and that's not guarded by machine guns). Or am I just...
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« Reply #213 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 10:59pm »

I now see why Linda Moulton-Howe went the subscriber route. That new isaaccaret website is pulling everything out of her site (as is) - verbatim - and is putting it in their site - either that or it's her site and she bought it from Todd Schwartz. Even the pictures are hers.

Check out these comments on their links.

OpenMindsForum
Great, very respectful, place to obtain intelligent and bleeding edge information on Isaac and the drones.

Oh pooh! He hasn't run into Saladfingers yet.

ufocasebook.com
Great, but sometimes overly uptight, place to find profound thinking related to Isaac and the drones.

OK, which one of me is UPTIGHT !!!! And once again Mark gets all the good ink!

Earthfiles.com
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Well, that's a little obvious - considering. shocked Did you get premission to copy/paste her whole site out of it's present location? LOL

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« Reply #214 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 11:23pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 10:34pm, bakosawa wrote:
He can not have it both ways. Either they watched him or they did not. guarded by machine guns).


Sure he could. The government runs into this kind of thing many times with contractors that have to be hep to classified and even top secret material sometimes. They can't expect them to do it "their" way but rather let them do their thing the way they do it. I imagine after many of years of trying to get contactors do things like the government wants that the government gave up realizing that these outside companies work better when someone doesn't try to tell them how to run their end of the show or be it, their business. My dad worked for many aerospace companies as a subcontractor and he did his own thing as did the contractor. My dad was involved in a top secret project once too in 1967 or 1968 called Dandelion. They just know to keep their mouth shut is all and they do.

I don't see anything unusual about Isaac's place of employment becoming a bit relaxed after three years. Atmospheres change, especially after you've worked with someone for so long.

There was military with guns but you make it sound like they were pointing them at the employees or something. There was just a presence.

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So no, we're not beating a dead horse. And by the way, that horse isn't dead yet. It's still standing.
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« Reply #215 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 11:47pm »

I've been out of town and not keeping up with this thread. I've read all the posts in the 3rd thread, but I need to go back and read 20 or so pages on #2.

I read someone asking about the size of the inventory parts. I started trying to establish their size based on the tire tracks seen in the photo. This was admittedly a fuzzy method because there is no way to know for sure what kind of vehicle left the tracks. Using "standard" road vehicle widths gave what was probably a very exaggerated size for the parts.

I tried using the Rajman high resolution photos to estimate size. This too required assumptions I cannot prove, such as pole diameter to establish scale.

I have since focused on the "tarmac tiles" to determine size. I've found that military airfields almost always have this pattern of square concrete, and they seem to be a very standard size. From what I have found, and I have looked an over a dozen airbases, they appear to be 20'x20'.

I came to this conclusion based on comparing a known object sitting on the tarmac to the tile. The object I used is an F/A-18 Hornet.

Specifications (F/A-18C Hornet)

* Crew: 1
* Length: 56 ft (17.1 m)
* Wingspan: 40 ft (12.3 m)
* Height: 15 ft 4 in (4.7 m)
* Wing area: 400 ft (38 m)

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Feel free to Google Earth as many MILITARY airfields as you like and see if you come to the same conclusion. I have and these tiles appear to be a standard.

Correction concerning this photo. I have since learned the planes are F-15s not F/A-18s.

F-15 Specifications

* Crew: 1
* Length: 63.8 ft (19.44 m)
* Wingspan: 42.8 ft (13 m)
* Height: 18.5 ft (5.6 m)
* Wing area: 608 ft (56.5 m)
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« Reply #216 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 12:13am »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 6:16pm, Atrueoriginall wrote:
We'll be awaiting your example.
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Making things up from scratch vs. replicating an image is a different thing, the latter one is often technically more difficult if matching to the reference image is the ultimate goal.

The methods I mentioned earlier are pretty widely used, although I havent really been into that stuff. However I am into realism so I do see how things could be done.

My point is that one can make a 2D digital document that cant be proven fake based on the visual appearance, nothing else. And I am talking here just about this "languistic primer" documents, not CG/photos.

But I am pretty positively looking forward to see the final outcome of this "enigma", whatever it may be laugh

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« Reply #217 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 12:55am »

If your using the aircraft published dimensions to gage the size of the concrete sections, you might want to use F-15 numbers.
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« Reply #218 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 01:53am »

undecided Sorry, but the planes in that picture are not FA-18Cs. Have you ever seen the Blue Angels? Check out the wings, especially - maybe try a Google image search for each and you'll see.

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« Reply #219 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 01:54am »

Not related to the drone business, but the link was posted in this thread - four pictures in the first of two reports show nothing but a reflection inside the camera of the powerful light source at the bottom of the picture. That's why there was nothing visible to the naked eye. Here's a composite image showing that all reflections have a common reflection axis, even the less bright lamp at the bottom left (visible with light levels adjusted):

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What I'm saying is that you can make a new set of similar images every night, beenieweenie. If truth is what you're after, please try to verify this.

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« Reply #220 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 02:02am »

I've taken literally hundreds of pics, in the same direction - I took several that same night within minutes/seconds before and after these, and I've been taking pics every day & night since - and the object only appeared in those 4 pictures. If I happen to get those same spheres again, I'll be sure to let you know. smiley
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« Reply #221 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 02:12am »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 01:53am, beenieweenie wrote:
undecided Sorry, but the planes in that picture are not FA-18Cs. Have you ever seen the Blue Angels? Check out the wings, especially - maybe try a Google image search for each and you'll see.



Looks like I was wrong about the model after all. I forgot McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing) made the F-15 and I didn't examine the planes as closely as I should have.

F/A-18s fly from the same place all of the time so that is what I assumed they were. The Boeing plant is very close to where those planes are parked. Those are indeed F-15s from the 131st ANG.

The F-15 has very similar numbers, so the 20'x20' size of the tiles still holds true.

F-15

* Crew: 1
* Length: 63.8 ft (19.44 m)
* Wingspan: 42.8 ft (13 m)
* Height: 18.5 ft (5.6 m)
* Wing area: 608 ft (56.5 m)
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« Reply #222 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 02:23am »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 02:02am, beenieweenie wrote:
I've taken literally hundreds of pics, in the same direction - I took several that same night within minutes/seconds before and after these, and I've been taking pics every day & night since - and the object only appeared in those 4 pictures. If I happen to get those same spheres again, I'll be sure to let you know. smiley


No need - there are NO SPHERES there, sorry. I can make hundreds of pictures like those myself, thank you.
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« Reply #223 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 03:02am »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 02:12am, WatchingWaiting wrote:
Looks like I was wrong about the model after all. I forgot McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing) made the F-15 and I didn't examine the planes as closely as I should have.

F/A-18s fly from the same place all of the time so that is what I assumed they were. The Boeing plant is very close to where those planes are parked. Those are indeed F-15s from the 131st ANG.

The F-15 has very similar numbers, so the 20'x20' size of the tiles still holds true.

F-15

* Crew: 1
* Length: 63.8 ft (19.44 m)
* Wingspan: 42.8 ft (13 m)
* Height: 18.5 ft (5.6 m)
* Wing area: 608 ft (56.5 m)


Cool. Since it took me a while to find and put these photos together, I'll post them. One of the best recognition keys is that the F-18 has canted verticle stabilizers, F-15's are true verticle.

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« Reply #224 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 03:24am »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 5:13pm, isawaufooverparis wrote:
Please use HIGH DEFINITION image before working on any image and before "proving" it is a fake. Working on low definition images is useless and proves nothing.


Would somebody point me to the hi-res image please.
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